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CalCat

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Quote from: Bearcat Press on December 13, 2009, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: CalCat on December 13, 2009, 03:57:57 PM
Jealousy sometimes can be the highest form of compliment....although you would expect more professionalism from a guy that makes his living writing...wouldn't trust his writing to be objective...just another hater :'(

He's writing a column: columns aren't supposed to be objective.  If he were writing a recap of the game, that would be different, but this is his opinion.

Didn't say his column was suppose to be objective nor was he writing a recap of the game....just said I wouldn't trust his writing to be objective....I base that on his opinion expressed  on what I believed was probably made out of jealousy which sometimes is aimed at successful programs.  Of course that is just my opinion :-*
CalCat

catjumper

Posted in response to Mr. Adame's column:

Please provide proof that Linfield only "returns the favor" of granting other schools home games every three or four years. A look at the Southern Oregon football record book shows that for at least the past 15 years, the Linfield vs. Southern Oregon series has alternated sites every year. Until the series was halted this year, the Linfield vs. Western Oregon series had alternated sites every year. The Northwest Conference, in which Linfield competes, has teams alternate the sites of their annual meeting every year. If memory serves, all other Linfield non-conference series over the past several decades - Hardin-Simmons, Redlands, etc. - have alternated home sites.

If you want to hold a grudge against Linfield (and its 36-9 all-time record against Southern Oregon), then that's your business. But to make a blanket statement that misrepresents the facts of the matter - even if it is presented in an opinion column - does a disservice to both your readers and to Linfield College.


CatDad

Just got back from the frozen tundra... What a season!! We all can second guess every game as it seems is a national pastime but that was a GREAT game. I'm disappointed in the outcome but our young men have nothing to be ashamed of. GREAT defense. GREAT offense. GREAT special teams. GREAT season! The game lived up it's billing!!!

The Wildcat machine will continue to reload but that doesn't mean we won't miss the leaders from Coach Smith's first class. And first class they are. Not only the boys but their parents.

I'm proud to be a supporter of a program that works on the whole person not just the athlete.

A special thanks from us for the work that Coach Elliot and Coach Nagel have done with our son. It has been an awesome experience to watch him grow as a QB but more importantly as a young man. Thank You!!!

Time to hit the weight room, do some recruiting and get the grades taken care of. Then a word to the wise for the NWC. If you liked this year watch out for next!!

GREAT JOB CATS

GO CATS!!!

Las Vegas Wildcards

Quote from: Bearcat Press on December 13, 2009, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: CalCat on December 13, 2009, 03:57:57 PM
Jealousy sometimes can be the highest form of compliment....although you would expect more professionalism from a guy that makes his living writing...wouldn't trust his writing to be objective...just another hater :'(

He's writing a column: columns aren't supposed to be objective.  If he were writing a recap of the game, that would be different, but this is his opinion.

Yes, but any "journalist" knows that even an opinion article must have at least a sliver of truth to support their argument. For example, I could write an article claiming the Southern Oregon Raiders have players from another planet, and provide false information just like this writer did about Linfield. That's the problem, and this idiot lied and many of his readers will take what he said as gospel. If a writer wishes to publish fiction, that's fine, just label it as such.      

RedandPurple

#25729
Quote from: wildcat11 on December 13, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
Oh...one other thing.

I wanted to pass along this gem from a sports writer in Kansas who was a former SOU player:

http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/1096258.html

Winning or losing: The movable feast
BY TONY ADAME
The Wichita Eagle

Old-fashioned, white-hot hatred of the other team— If there's ever a moment that warms my heart at the end of every college football season, it's when I see the Linfield (Ore.) football team has lost it's final game, just as it did Saturday, falling to Wisconsin-Whitewater in the NCAA Division III semifinals.

Here's Linfield's thing: They've got a bunch of cash. That's it. They muscle the other small-colleges in the area into being guaranteed home games for them, returning the favor once every three or four years. And then they expect said schools to be happy about it.

I have the distinct privilege of playing on the team that handed them the worst home loss in school history: 40-10 in 1999. That's a big loss, to a state school, Southern Oregon University.

When I need to go to a happy place, that's always my first choice.

Spoken like a true sou alum. Selective memory maybe? SOU is 2-8 vs. Linfield from 1999-2009 including the 2005 49-14 drubbing at sou. The overall series record from 1934 to 2008 is sou 9 wins while Linfield took 36 victories.  ;) (Stats are from the sou football history page.)
The Linfield series history page has Linfield with 36 wins to sou's 9 losses through 2008.
Go Cats! Make it 62 in '17!
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston S. Churchill

coco

Mr. Adame must be a bitter, bitter man. He needs to let some of that go after 10 years.

Like Steel Curtain and catjumper said, opinion is one thing but an out and out lie is another.
Two words:  THE STREAK

RedandPurple

The 'hawks should feel encouraged they were able to hang with the Wildcats through four quarters and take home a victory.  ;)
Go Cats! Make it 62 in '17!
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston S. Churchill

D O.C.

Height.
You can't coach height.

Adam Brandes has a right to be proud of himself before he prepares for the MUC.
With a 6'3" stature he used it all to catch that 35 yard pass over 5'9" Nate Dixon on 3rd and 10.
(front page of d3football.com Sunday night.)
Dixon did what he was trained to do.
Great catch.
Really helped UWW get their mojo back. Giving up the ball on 4th and 10, not so good.

Las Vegas Wildcards

Quote from: bleedpurple on December 13, 2009, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on December 13, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
OK...in regards to yesterday.  Bittersweet feeling after the game.  I'll post more on the blog tomorrow but I was very disappointed in losing a game Linfield had a GREAT chance of closing out but credit UWW for rising to the challenge in the 4th and getting it done.  UWW is a GREAT team and the 'Cats said they played hard, clean, and were very good sports between the lines.  Props to them.

Never thought I could be more proud to be a Wildcat but this 2009 team almost made my chest explode with their play this year.  They left it all on the field and should have zero regrets.  They are just 100% class, heart, and determination and has all the qualities that we Linfield fans hope our teams put out each season.  

Congratulations to the senior class, the entire roster of players, the staff, and all the folks who do their part to make Linfield football great.  Go 'Cats!!!

Congratulations to the Linfield Wildcats players, coaches, and fans for a GREAT season and a GREAT performance at UWW yesterday. I got the pleasure of meeting a few of the fans. Every aspect of the program oozed quality and class.  UWW players also talked after the game about the quality and class the Linfield players showed. They mentioned that the Linfield players were classy and good sports. That is very impressive given the emotion of such a big game.

In my opinion,  this Linfield team is REALLY GOOD. Whatever "level" of D3 you put UWW  in, put Linfield in the same place. If UWW is at the top level with MUC, then there are at least 3 teams in that level. If MUC is on a different "level", then I guess we will find that out next week. But as far as UWW is concerned, Linfield is RIGHT THERE.

After previous jabs directed at the Linfield defense (specifically after they played Puget Sound), I feel like I owe that unit this: They played OUTSTANDING Saturday.

Congratulations again to the Linfield Wildcats and their fans. You will be easy to root for when the 2010 season unfolds.

Thank you, good luck against Mount Union this Saturday. As a Linfield fan at the game, I can say you have a tremendous program and stadium, Perkins is superior to D2 Grand Valley State. I, along with WC11 had the opportunity to chat with a few Warhawk fans, and it's great to see they were gracious winners, and respected the Linfield program as well.
Ironically, that evening in Wisconsin, I watched the ESPN program about the University of Miami football program, and it was a 180 degree difference. Despite the incredible success of the Canes, much of the program celebrated the lack of class, and off field troubles of Miami during the 1980s. Discouraging to see former players, now in their 40s, smugly recall those incidents, some people just don't get it.
Yet another reason to appreciate D3.          

BoBo

Quote from: chewey on December 13, 2009, 10:41:30 AM
It sounds like Linfield had the game in control but receivers dropped potential TD passes and UWW got a couple of huge gains. 

Judging from your comment, you didn't see/hear the game. Neither team could honestly say they had the game in control until maybe the second Coppage TD run. Whitewater leading 10-0 didn't make me feel anymore comfortable. You'd have to ask the Linfield people, but leading 17-10 probably didn't make them feel overly in control, either. It wasn't until the INT after Coppage's second TD run that I felt that any team was "in control." Also, UWW was the team that had the 40 yard TD pass called back due to offensive pass interference (they ended up punting) and 3 or 4 overthrown balls when the receiver had a step or two on the defender with a clear path to 6 points. Would they have gone for TD's? Hard to say... but possibly. However, saying Linfield receivers dropped potential TD passes (emphasis on your use of the plural) is simply inaccurate - I apologize if I'm wrong, but I can't remember any. UWW and Linfield both had plays with huge gains - UWW just had more. It was a fun and entertaining college football game to watch between two equally matched & strong football teams and coaches. Hope we get a chance to do it again soon. It's much more enjoyable playing in these kinds of games than the ones were used to playing in.
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

bluenote

#25735
Quote from: chewey on December 13, 2009, 10:41:30 AM
I was sorry to see Linfield lose and I wish I could have made the trip.  It sounds like Linfield had the game in control but receivers dropped potential TD passes and UWW got a couple of huge gains.  I was hoping for a Linfield win but actually expected to see a UWW win by 3 TD's.  I always know that Linfield has a great program year in and year out.  In that you played UWW like that, Linfield is/was even a lot better than I thought and I was closely following Linfield all year.  

Good job Blue, Coco, Wildcat11, GHCat and everyone else.  We'll set 'em up and knock 'em down again next year.  Hopefully, it will be the Johnnies ending your playoff run next year and not UWW :)  I must admit that I'm getting really tired of seeing MUC/UWW year in and year out in the Stagg.  Someone's got to do something about this.  You guys came close.  

chewey....I want to thank you for your considerate post. Of all the SJU posters I value your opinion the highest. You have been very observant on the board..... both to your team (The Johnnies) and also to Linfield. You don't sugar coat things and you tell it like it is.....plus you know how to talk smack if needed in a polite way. I think a lot of it has to do with your strong faith and you're allegiance to you school, plus a very good sense of humor and insightfulness about football in general. Thanks again for being a good buddy on the board and I hope SJU is back in the hunt next year.

bluenote

Quote from: BoBo on December 13, 2009, 09:25:10 PM
Quote from: chewey on December 13, 2009, 10:41:30 AM
It sounds like Linfield had the game in control but receivers dropped potential TD passes and UWW got a couple of huge gains. 

Judging from your comment, you didn't see/hear the game. Neither team could honestly say they had the game in control until maybe the second Coppage TD run. Whitewater leading 10-0 didn't make me feel anymore comfortable. You'd have to ask the Linfield people, but leading 17-10 probably didn't make them feel overly in control, either. It wasn't until the INT after Coppage's second TD run that I felt that any team was "in control." Also, UWW was the team that had the 40 yard TD pass called back due to offensive pass interference (they ended up punting) and 3 or 4 overthrown balls when the receiver had a step or two on the defender with a clear path to 6 points. Would they have gone for TD's? Hard to say... but possibly. However, saying Linfield receivers dropped potential TD passes (emphasis on your use of the plural) is simply inaccurate - I apologize if I'm wrong, but I can't remember any. UWW and Linfield both had plays with huge gains - UWW just had more. It was a fun and entertaining college football game to watch between two equally matched & strong football teams and coaches. Hope we get a chance to do it again soon. It's much more enjoyable playing in these kinds of games than the ones were used to playing in.

I agree with you BoBo on your brief review. Neither team was dominate and it came down to a few great plays by Whitewater that broke it open. I was actually kind of surprised because I saw Whitewater at Willamette last year and knew Whitewater was really young last year. I thought we would be undersized for sure going against them....but I had seen what we did against UMHB and St. Thomas who were both HUGE. So I had faith that it wasn't always size that did it....it's a bunch of guys who love to play football and are well prepared and go out and work as a team that matters....I have a lot of faith in our team the coaching staff and everybody involved. Thanks everyone!

criswyly

I'm still in pain here...and really appreciate the positive comments on both the WIAC and NWC boards....
Don't forget your booties cause it's cold out there!

BoBo

Quote from: criswyly on December 13, 2009, 10:11:48 PM
I'm still in pain here...and really appreciate the positive comments on both the WIAC and NWC boards....

cris, whenever I feel pain, I just give a lot of +k. Giving always helps me get my spirit back. Time to get back to my holiday workshop...  ;)
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

Island Cat

I was actually depressed yesterday (went to the driving range to work off some steam), and today I'm going through withdrawls (watching old videos of previous games, thanks wc11).

Then a friend sent me this, I admit it's kinda corny, but she was trying to cheer me up. It did get me to smile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ornIWg0VG7g

2010 Let's do it again!
Go Cats!

"Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character."
—John Wooden