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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2010, 05:32:40 PM
When they go all Don Hansen on us then they're basically useless.

Have more respect  :'(

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Fierce When Roused

river

Quote from: d-train on November 01, 2010, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: piodad on November 01, 2010, 01:22:16 AM
Dtrain, "a one man team"?  Welch might be the best player in the NWC but LC is not a one man team by any means.   

Nice, you totally took that phase out of context.

I said "in some ways, they are a one man team" but went on to mention the much improved 'supporting cast'.  I stand behind that.

There is one Pio player who is clearly their best playmaker.  Any game plan must focus first and foremost on containing the QB.  The O-line and entire defense are much, much better than a few years ago.  And yes, there are some other playmakers in the backfield and receiving core as well.

Quote from: piodad on November 01, 2010, 03:09:47 PM
Speedy, my point exactly!
Linfield's QB is a stud player. Really really good.  I just think Welch is better. Linfiled does have more established talent on offense.   

Linfields defense is just as good as their offense.

Quote from: d-train on November 01, 2010, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: piodad on November 01, 2010, 01:22:16 AM
Dtrain, "a one man team"?  Welch might be the best player in the NWC but LC is not a one man team by any means.   

Nice, you totally took that phase out of context.

I said "in some ways, they are a one man team" but went on to mention the much improved 'supporting cast'.  I stand behind that.

There is one Pio player who is clearly their best playmaker.  Any game plan must focus first and foremost on containing the QB.  The O-line and entire defense are much, much better than a few years ago.  And yes, there are some other playmakers in the backfield and receiving core as well.

Quote from: wildcat11 on November 01, 2010, 11:34:58 AM
Quote from: piodad on November 01, 2010, 01:22:16 AM
Welch might be the best player in the NWC but LC is not a one man team by any means.   

No doubt that Welch is a great talent but the best offensive player in the NWC is the one behind center at Linfield. 

Boehme is a great "talent" just based on his stats; but is he as great as he is because of the system he plays in  He has a talented offensive line, great receivers, and a supporting cast of good backs.  Would he be as good with the "supporting cast" at L&C?  Perhaps not.  By the same token, would Welch or Rasmussen be just as good or better with the same level of talent that backs up Boehme at  Linfield?   It is almost pro forma for successful QBs to credit their offensive line and receivers for their success.  Boehme himself would probably agree.

FarAwayCat

Quote from: d-train on November 01, 2010, 04:14:48 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 01, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
QuoteSulages and Westering both deserve some attention.
Ladies and Gentlemen, look at how Sulages and Westering improved their teams - only to get crushed again by Joe Smith's team. And the winner is:
   Joe Smith

Darn...there goes my theory that all you Linfield guys on Post Patterns would agree with passing over Smith for Coach of the Year in 2010.  ;)  (Seeing that we all have ballots anyway...)

How bout a three-way tie for Coach of the Year.  And ribbons for the other 4 coaches.  Everybody should be happy then.

bluenote

We're getting some good action on the board this week...I like it!   :o

Can't wait to see the stud QB in 2 weeks!

Gig Harbor Cat

Get a grip Dude--Rocketman IS the #1 QB in the NWC You can what if youreslf to death but this is an easy one to Phone in!!!

Coached by The Butcher no less-- No contest

Bam  thats all I got

GHC  out

piodad

Any objective person can see an argument for both QB's.  Plus the comparison has to take into account that Welch is a frosh and Boehme is a senior. Linfield offense has an advantage in overall REC quality and depth which has to help Boehme's passing stats.  Boehme is a def back's nightmare and at this point in his career he certainly has nothing left to prove to anybody with his win/loss record and stats.

The clear cut standout on the team is Linfield's defense.  They might be even more impressive than their offense and that is saying a lot. 

Proud Papa Joe

OK here goes. About the playoff's, there are 230 DIII schools in the U.S. Give or take a few, there are only 14 on the west coast, and that covers almost 10 states. Do you really think we will get 4 teams in the pool of 32. NOT. We will be lucky to get 3 teams. So my prediction is Linfield and Cal Lu. Now if Linfield is ranked higher then Cal lu in the regional rankings, we should get a homefield game. Sorry Cal Lu even thow you beat us I think we will get the homefield. Safe travels. But we still have to win out. So one game at a time and play Linfield Football. Lets get her done.

Pound the Rock

PPJ
Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out.

speedybigboy

Quote from: Proud Papa Joe on November 02, 2010, 12:28:22 AM
OK here goes. About the playoff's, there are 230 DIII schools in the U.S. Give or take a few, there are only 14 on the west coast, and that covers almost 10 states. Do you really think we will get 4 teams in the pool of 32. NOT. We will be lucky to get 3 teams. So my prediction is Linfield and Cal Lu. Now if Linfield is ranked higher then Cal lu in the regional rankings, we should get a homefield game. Sorry Cal Lu even thow you beat us I think we will get the homefield. Safe travels. But we still have to win out. So one game at a time and play Linfield Football. Lets get her done.

Pound the Rock

PPJ
Unfortunately, for my Lutes, I think you are probably correct.  If CLU wasn't tearing out their field, they might have a better shot at hosting.

CatDad

not going to weigh in on the QB discussion for obvious reasons.... I'll say it once again... let's play the games... that's all that matters  :-)

The bottom line is winning games... period end of discussion!!

GO CATS!!

Wildcat'64

I suggest we set aside who's the best QB for two weeks until both are on the field.  Right now my focus is on the Rats and there desire to 'make their season' with a win over the Cats.  We should stop all the playoff talk and just keep focused on taking care of one game at a time.  The Cats have the talent but they simply need to keep focused and win one game at a time.
LEAVE NO DOUBT

piodad

Catdad, I didn't know whose Dad you were till a few minutes ago.  Your son is an exceptional talent and I hope you guys win the Nat Championship.  The QB is championship caliber. I'm with you on the team wins concept.

bbaddict

Quote from: Gig Harbor Cat on November 01, 2010, 11:06:15 PM
Get a grip Dude--Rocketman IS the #1 QB in the NWC You can what if youreslf to death but this is an easy one to Phone in!!!

Coached by The Butcher no less-- No contest

Bam  thats all I got

GHC  out

Have to agree with you on this one GHC.   There's just not a better QB in the NWC right now than Boehme.  Just the way it is!  And you all know how GHC & I like to agree. ;D

RedandPurple

Quote from: wildcat11 on November 01, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: piodad on November 01, 2010, 03:09:47 PM
Speedy, my point exactly!
Linfield's QB is a stud player. Really really good.  I just think Welch is better.

That's cool but I think the NWC coaches will have a different say at the end of the year.  Boehme does lead the NWC in total offense (again) and that's only with 1.5 quarters played against Pacific and only 1/2 a game of play vs UPS because of the lead margins at that point of the game.  Welch is a hell of a player but we'll see how it goes over the next two week.

I just discovered the Linfield@Lewis and Clark game will have an internet feed provided by L&C. ;D

http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/lclark.portal#

GO CATS!

55 in '10
Go Cats! Make it 62 in '17!
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Winston S. Churchill

MonroviaCat

Quote from: speedybigboy on November 02, 2010, 12:38:31 AM
Quote from: Proud Papa Joe on November 02, 2010, 12:28:22 AM
OK here goes. About the playoff's, there are 230 DIII schools in the U.S. Give or take a few, there are only 14 on the west coast, and that covers almost 10 states. Do you really think we will get 4 teams in the pool of 32. NOT. We will be lucky to get 3 teams. So my prediction is Linfield and Cal Lu. Now if Linfield is ranked higher then Cal lu in the regional rankings, we should get a homefield game. Sorry Cal Lu even thow you beat us I think we will get the homefield. Safe travels. But we still have to win out. So one game at a time and play Linfield Football. Lets get her done.

Pound the Rock

PPJ
Unfortunately, for my Lutes, I think you are probably correct.  If CLU wasn't tearing out their field, they might have a better shot at hosting.
Their field wouldn't qualify anyway--they would have to host at another venue (DOC has suggested Moorpark JC or Oaks Christian Higschool)====I don't really see Linfield jumping over CLU in the rankings without a loss by CLU but then again, I don't totally understand the whole thing....
Go Cats!

logger54

I agree to hold off on the QB discussion, but just want to quickly discount one comment, you can't take into consideration the frosh vs senior impact.

Boehme shouldn't be punished because he's older and more developed at the position.

The better player is stats alone. So let's wait till the seasons over and then take a look.