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wildcat11

QuoteBy the same token, would Welch or Rasmussen be just as good or better with the same level of talent that backs up Boehme at  Linfield?

The answer is no.  Rasmussen is not nearly the runner as Boehme is and ask Willamette over past two years just how dangerous Boehme's ability to run and scramble is.  Turn that around and Welch is not nearly the thrower at this stage of his career that Boehme is and there is a number of teams that have found out that the 'Cats passing game is lethal.


 


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D O.C.

CatDad, you are so biased.  I don't understand why you come in here with that   :D

I'll speak out.
Current coaches from the 2004 LINFIELD National Championship team saw Aaron coming 5 years ago and were delighted to tell me about him over a glass of orange juice...

As a sophomore, if my memory serves me well enough, he threw for 2 tds. and caught passes for 2 more as a role player. When he did make the grade to qb, he broke his shoulder first game. Last year he got the 'Cats to 13-1. This year (even at 6'5") he had a couple of tipped pass interceptions against the Solutes, one of  which was probably the 5 point difference since it was run back 80 something yards to the two yard line.
On that play you should have seen him trying to get the ball back. His H.S. coach told me he was a Db also and it is hard for him NOT to run because he still likes to hit.

I've not seen Welch.
I am not talking any more about L&C.
One game at a time.

RedandPurple

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Kingsmen4

To weigh in on this mass of discussion:

1.) Linfield's "Rocket-man" is as good as it gets when it comes to D3 QB's. I had heard all of the hype, but then saw it first hand last year in the playoffs, and have been drinking the kool-aid ever since (I was telling my dad after the game last year that he is the best all around QB I have ever seen at this level, including Collins, Goltz, Selway, Jones, all the best from the SCIAC that I played against or with and have since played at the next level). The guy has the size, arm, and accuracy for a pocket passer but can run downfield 50+ yards at a time and move well in the pocket. I haven't seen the other kid that is being discussed so maybe its a biased judgement but I will say this - if "rocket-man" was on any other squad he would be the entire team and I don't see that his stats or stature would be any different. We played him tough this year and he didn;t seem in top form, but still played well. You can't discount a guy's ability for playing on a great team - it doens't work like that. Great players make great teams better. Poor or average players don't excel on great teams, in fact they usually don't see the field... sorry.

2.) I don't see the argument that Linfield all of a sudden jumps over Cal Lu in the regional rankings AND then gets a home game in the matchup. If both win out as planned, the final two games of each team's schedule are practically identicle in terms of the strength of the teams they play. With that said - what would take place to bump Linfiled over Cal Lu, especially with Cal Lu owning the head to head win? In my opinion It is going to come down to IF anyone else makes it in. I think its pretty simple ... If Redlands OR PLU make it in, they will play the closest team to them (with CLU and Linfield hosting due to head to head victories respectively) and the odd ball will travel east (Redlands vs. CLU OR Linfield vs. PLU, either CLU or Linfield travels east). If neither makes it in, then CLU hosts Linfield. Aaannnnnddddd.... if BOTH make it in, then they will both play close to home matchups obviously.

TWO MORE WEEKS AND ALL OF THIS WILL BE SETTLED!  :o

-GO LU

CatDad

Quote from: D O.C. on November 02, 2010, 02:25:42 PM
CatDad, you are so biased.  I don't understand why you come in here with that   :D

I'll speak out.
Current coaches from the 2004 LINFIELD National Championship team saw Aaron coming 5 years ago and were delighted to tell me about him over a glass of orange juice...

As a sophomore, if my memory serves me well enough, he threw for 2 tds. and caught passes for 2 more as a role player. When he did make the grade to qb, he broke his shoulder first game. Last year he got the 'Cats to 13-1. This year (even at 6'5") he had a couple of tipped pass interceptions against the Solutes, one of  which was probably the 5 point difference since it was run back 80 something yards to the two yard line.
On that play you should have seen him trying to get the ball back. His H.S. coach told me he was a Db also and it is hard for him NOT to run because he still likes to hit.

I've not seen Welch.
I am not talking any more about L&C.
One game at a time.

Duly noted *will keep his bias to himself*

but in 25+ years of coaching i've just come to realize that nothing is ever solved in the paper... or bulletin boards... only on the field... and if you play for individual awards it is a death sentence for a team... so let's play ball!!

GO CATS!!

CatDad

Quote from: Kingsmen4 on November 02, 2010, 04:51:00 PM
To weigh in on this mass of discussion:

1.) Linfield's "Rocket-man" is as good as it gets when it comes to D3 QB's. I had heard all of the hype, but then saw it first hand last year in the playoffs, and have been drinking the kool-aid ever since (I was telling my dad after the game last year that he is the best all around QB I have ever seen at this level, including Collins, Goltz, Selway, Jones, all the best from the SCIAC that I played against or with and have since played at the next level). The guy has the size, arm, and accuracy for a pocket passer but can run downfield 50+ yards at a time and move well in the pocket. I haven't seen the other kid that is being discussed so maybe its a biased judgement but I will say this - if "rocket-man" was on any other squad he would be the entire team and I don't see that his stats or stature would be any different. We played him tough this year and he didn;t seem in top form, but still played well. You can't discount a guy's ability for playing on a great team - it doens't work like that. Great players make great teams better. Poor or average players don't excel on great teams, in fact they usually don't see the field... sorry.

2.) I don't see the argument that Linfield all of a sudden jumps over Cal Lu in the regional rankings AND then gets a home game in the matchup. If both win out as planned, the final two games of each team's schedule are practically identicle in terms of the strength of the teams they play. With that said - what would take place to bump Linfiled over Cal Lu, especially with Cal Lu owning the head to head win? In my opinion It is going to come down to IF anyone else makes it in. I think its pretty simple ... If Redlands OR PLU make it in, they will play the closest team to them (with CLU and Linfield hosting due to head to head victories respectively) and the odd ball will travel east (Redlands vs. CLU OR Linfield vs. PLU, either CLU or Linfield travels east). If neither makes it in, then CLU hosts Linfield. Aaannnnnddddd.... if BOTH make it in, then they will both play close to home matchups obviously.

TWO MORE WEEKS AND ALL OF THIS WILL BE SETTLED!  :o

-GO LU

Thanks for the kind words.... :-)

D O.C.

Kingsman4...
if the Solutes and 'CATS win out as predicted and finish roughly the same ranking, feel free to head on out to the Runner west end zone and scream and shout all you can BUT do not be surprised when that venerable NCAA awards LINFIELD the home game
1) CLU field
2) track record of working with NCAA
(and it wasn't always that way - the improvements were made)

Kingsmen4

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Quote from: D O.C. on November 02, 2010, 05:12:53 PM
Kingsman4...
if the Solutes and 'CATS win out as predicted and finish roughly the same ranking*, feel free to head on out to the Runner west end zone and scream and shout all you can BUT do not be surprised when that venerable NCAA awards LINFIELD the home game
1) CLU field
2) track record of working with NCAA
(and it wasn't always that way - the improvements were made)

*Polite way of saying "Linfield Ranked slighlty lower"

If they are ranked "Roughly the same", CLU in my opinion will be ranked higher in region. One or two places is still higher, and out of 8 teams, just 1 place can mean a lot. With a head to head win against a lower ranked team, it is agan in my opinion that we would host.

Our field is not up to NCAA standards for this, I understand that (BTW they are not tearing anything down, the new stadium is being built on a plot of land elsewhere on campus) but in my opinion we would host in this case, regardless of Lindfield's past success and many times hosting playoff games. I don't forsee the NCAA taking an earned home stand in the playoffs away, ESPECIALLY when it will not affect them financially.

Not arguing (well maybe...) just my opinion on how things will shake out. BUT Redlands and/or PLU could throw a big wrench in all of this of course. Do Redlands and PLU actually hurt each other in the shot at a pool C bid? In other words if Redlands was out of the picture would PLU have a better shot and Vice versa?

-GO LU

coco

#27806
Two teams (SCIAC and NWC #1s) would make for an easy match-up. So would four, but that would mean that the west coast was hogging four of the six Pool C bids, which is  unlikely. If the selection committee picks three west coast teams, there arises that nasty issue of more expensive travel.
Two words:  THE STREAK

MonroviaCat

Quote from: coco on November 02, 2010, 06:14:24 PM
Two teams (SCIAC and NWC #1s) would make for an easy match-up. So would four, but that would mean that the west coast was hogging four of the six Pool C bids, which is  unlikely. If the selection committee picks three west coast teams, there arises that nasty issue of more expensive travel.
How do you get 4?  Linfield and CLU will be (assuming they win out) Pool A...
Go Cats!

D O.C.

To clarify, roughly the same ranking they are now - with Solutes above, of course.

coco

Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 02, 2010, 06:53:10 PM
Quote from: coco on November 02, 2010, 06:14:24 PM
Two teams (SCIAC and NWC #1s) would make for an easy match-up. So would four, but that would mean that the west coast was hogging four of the six Pool C bids, which is  unlikely. If the selection committee picks three west coast teams, there arises that nasty issue of more expensive travel.
How do you get 4?  Linfield and CLU will be (assuming they win out) Pool A...

In the first Regional Rankings last week, both Redlands and PLU were in the Top 10. I'm sure they'd like to be invited to the dance, too.
Two words:  THE STREAK