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bluenote

Quote from: river on November 11, 2010, 01:10:03 AM
Quote from: Lever Street on November 10, 2010, 07:35:05 PM
Boehme could have far better numbers, but for the fact that he spends so much time on the bench when the 'Cats build big leads (almost every game).  I suspect that the L&C QB has been playing most/all of every game.  If you want a fair comparison, multiply Boehme's stats by 1.5 at least.

Go CATS Go!

You would think that would be the case, that Welch, the L&C QB, plays more than the LC QB, Boehme.  But the stats don't support that conclusion.  In the total offense stats, Boehme made 62 rushing attempts and 221 passing attempts, for a total of 283 plays.  Welch made 134 rushing attempts and 166 passing attempts, for a total of 300 plays, a difference of 17 more plays.  Over 8 games, that comes out to just 2 more plays by Welch per game.  Because Welch made more rushing attempts, that may mean that he spent more actual time on the field.  But in terms of actual number of plays, there is little difference.
8-)

LOL.... :D

river

Quote from: desertcat1 on November 10, 2010, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: FarAwayCat on November 10, 2010, 06:58:08 PM
What PeeDad, you don't like the jokes?

FAC, 8-)

The Golden Pee boy will be peeing frisbeeees behind the line ... after the special load of salt gets to town this sat.  :o

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Go Big D
Quote from: D O.C. on November 10, 2010, 11:07:14 PM
I'm for letting the pee go. No joke.

. . . .

DO.C., if you mean we should quit with the pee-ing, I agree.   Won't happen though as DC1 seems to be aiming at becoming the Mr. Hyde of 'Cat posters while GHC is busy being a grandpa (and seems to be mellowing).   :)

Gig Harbor Cat

Cmon now River-- You know better than that !!  I will be down for the Cat game on Sat--hooking up with the boys for our usual pregame strategy meeting--Then on to watch the Cats blow the doors off of the Pios !!

Cats by 40  Phone it in !!  Foot on the gas boys--on the gas !!

GHC

desertcat1

 Dr. H is in the house. :-*



I wish to thank all of  the service men and women for serving our country ...


  Thank you VETS.. 8-)



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fbgcat

Just a couple of thoughts-

I know this is old news but Willamette posters keep talking about how poorly their team played against Linfield.  Could that have been the defense of Linfield?  Great defenses force mistakes and take you out of your game. 

Regarding the stats of the L&C QB- There is no "I" in team.  Is it possible that Boehme's stats aren't quite as eye-catching because he has teammates around him to share the wealth?

Discuss.......

CatDad

Just a couple of thoughts as well...

Thanks to all who have served to provide us with freedoms we all enjoy....

Playoff game... YEP.... it's that time of year... if you treat it any other way then you are setting yourself up for failure next week.... just a characteristic of a championship team....

GO CATS!!

MonroviaCat

Quote from: fbgcat on November 11, 2010, 11:26:25 AM
Just a couple of thoughts-

I know this is old news but Willamette posters keep talking about how poorly their team played against Linfield.  Could that have been the defense of Linfield?  Great defenses force mistakes and take you out of your game. 

Regarding the stats of the L&C QB- There is no "I" in team.  Is it possible that Boehme's stats aren't quite as eye-catching because he has teammates around him to share the wealth?

Discuss.......
I agree--the running game has actually been doing it for the Cats in recent week and while Boehme is a part of that running game it has allowed the Cats to throw the ball less (or at least rely on throwing less) which has reduced the passsing stats...
Go Cats!

Wildcat'64

Cam Cat,
There you are finally....you've been quiet while lurking out there in the shadows of the Catdome!
LEAVE NO DOUBT

Bearcat Press

Quote from: fbgcat on November 11, 2010, 11:26:25 AM
Just a couple of thoughts-

I know this is old news but Willamette posters keep talking about how poorly their team played against Linfield.  Could that have been the defense of Linfield?  Great defenses force mistakes and take you out of your game. 

Regarding the stats of the L&C QB- There is no "I" in team.  Is it possible that Boehme's stats aren't quite as eye-catching because he has teammates around him to share the wealth?

Discuss.......

Great points, fbgcat.

Regarding question #1, my answer is "yes and no."  Yes, a lot (most) of Willamette's struggles against Linfield were due to the Wildcats D, especially the d-line, which outworked, outmuscled, and totally outplayed an overmatched Bearcat o-line.  So let me be very clear when I say that Linfield, top to bottom, has a better team than Willamette this year.

That being said - and I'm saying this with my D3football.com hat on, not my Willamette one - I do not believe that Linfield is four touchdowns better than a Willamette squad that beat Stevens Point and narrowly lost at Hardin-Simmons (a place the Wildcats have never won, either).  So in the end, I think it was a combination of Linfield really playing to their potential, coupled with a series of unforced Willamette errors (two missed FGs, a TD called back for a dumb penalty) that led to the blowout.

Question #2: absolutely.  Boehme's supporting cast is far superior to Welch's.  But I don't think anyone disputes that Boehme makes that offense run - Linfield's success over the last decade has been directly tied to their quarterback situation.  What's neat for L&C is that they've finally got a terrific player they can build around, and that sets them up for a lot of future success.

Anyway, that's my $0.02.
"It's a slippery slope from the penthouse to the outhouse." - Mark Speckman

bbaddict

Quote from: fbgcat on November 11, 2010, 11:26:25 AM
Just a couple of thoughts-

I know this is old news but Willamette posters keep talking about how poorly their team played against Linfield.  Could that have been the defense of Linfield?  Great defenses force mistakes and take you out of your game. 

Regarding the stats of the L&C QB- There is no "I" in team.  Is it possible that Boehme's stats aren't quite as eye-catching because he has teammates around him to share the wealth?

Discuss.......

If you were at that game you wouldn't be asking your first question.    Yes, Linfield has a great defense.   My question at Linfield that Saturday, was "Where IS our defense?"    It was a terrible performance by the Bearcats.   That game did not represent our teams's ability at all.   Yes, Linfield has a very good team.  But, WU did shoot themselves in the foot that day over & over.   But, it's over!  Now on to PLU.

BearcatChatter

exactly bbaddict, on all accords. The battle in the trenches killed the Bearcats in McMinnville. We simply just didn't come out to play our brand of football (3 tough games before that, and a bye left us sloppy IMO)

but, that doesn't matter. From people who have seen both teams play this season, what are some assumptions and predictions for the PLU/WU matchup?

Also, is Greg Ford healthy or out for the season or what? I'd like to see a battle of the NWC's elite receivers with him and Schoettgen. BCP and I will be making the trek north to Tacoma this weekend for what should be a tight game.
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piodad

Linfield is clearly the best team. Linfield, PLU with Williamette probably being the best of the rest.

Hedin Def POY,  Co-Off Players of the year  Welch-Boehem.  Why doesn't Duncan White get thrown in that too? One kid who isn't getting the credit he deserves.

Can someone remind "Speck" about NCAA rules:  1.2 c: "Coaches are permitted in the area between the limit line and coaching line between the 25 yard lines. This area is the coaching box." and 9.2 b.1
"other prohibited acts include: during the game coaches........shall not be on the field of play or outside the 25 yard lines without permission of the referee unless legally entering or leaving the field.".

MacQuiz

Quote from: piodad on November 11, 2010, 02:36:12 PM
Can someone remind "Speck" about NCAA rules:  1.2 c: "Coaches are permitted in the area between the limit line and coaching line between the 25 yard lines. This area is the coaching box." and 9.2 b.1
"other prohibited acts include: during the game coaches........shall not be on the field of play or outside the 25 yard lines without permission of the referee unless legally entering or leaving the field.".

I'm sure Coach Speckman is aware...
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MonroviaCat

Quote from: BearcatChatter on November 11, 2010, 02:24:25 PM


but, that doesn't matter. From people who have seen both teams play this season, what are some assumptions and predictions for the PLU/WU matchup?


I think this could be a high scoring game.  It seems to me that Willamette is susceptible to a good passing game--PLU.  In turn, it seems like PLU is suceptible to a good running game--Wilamette.  That  could translate to a shoot-out which of course means it will end up being a defensive struggle..... :)
Go Cats!

bbaddict

Aren't they all? ;D  (Defensive struggles.)