FB: Northwest Conference

[Gig Harbor Cat]

All NWC team is here:  http://www.nwcsports.com/sports/fball/2010-11/news/allnwc and once again, if you didn't get a spot on this team, you probably did not play football in the NWC.....3 first team QBs?  C'mon....

And only one is the offensive POY.

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Seriously??  Looking at the stats game by game I'm surprised you are even saying that...you just have to be on the winning team with an all star cast.  Congratulations Linfield for a great season. 

I guess we are just lucky he didn't play on Sat !!!

Phone it in  GHC

[wildcat11]

Seriously??  Looking at the stats game by game I'm surprised you are even saying that...you just have to be on the winning team with an all star cast.  Congratulations Linfield for a great season. 

I guess the 5 TDs vs Willamette (3 rush, 2 pass), the 5 TDs vs Whitworth (3 rush, 2 pass) or the 3 passing TDs vs PLU had zero to do with Boehme winning it back-to-back.  That's 13 TDs against the number 2-4 teams in the NWC...Welch only had 3 TDs vs those same teams.  Case closed.

[FarAwayCat]

After looking at the all NWC team I got to thinking.  I know WC11 had the best overall score for the NWC pickems but I did have a perfect week when only one other participant did as well, so I think maybe I should be in a tie for first place or if nothing else an honorable mention. 

In all seriousness though I'm bummed to see Sparky didn't make first team.  He may have been overshadowed my the incredible stats put up by Hedin but that is no excuse, in any other year he would have been a shoe-in for 1st team.  In my opinion (on the other hand, I know nothing about the other guys who got 1st team DL).

Great work by all NWC players on their awards.  As far as Welch, I believe he is probably a phenomenal player, sucks we didn't get to see him play versus the cats.  WOuld have settled a lot of this talk on the boards one way or the other.  11 did just post a pretty convincing stat though.  Unless Welch transfers, there is probably not a good chance we'll ever know just how much better (or lack there of ) he would be with a supporting cast.  I look forward to following his career at L&C.  He could really help turn that team around.  

Time to get ready for the SoLutes.  Catdome baby!

[Lady Pio]

Seriously??  Looking at the stats game by game I'm surprised you are even saying that...you just have to be on the winning team with an all star cast.  Congratulations Linfield for a great season. 

I guess the 5 TDs vs Willamette (3 rush, 2 pass), the 5 TDs vs Whitworth (3 rush, 2 pass) or the 3 passing TDs vs PLU had zero to do with Boehme winning it back-to-back.  That's 13 TDs against the number 2-4 teams in the NWC...Welch only had 3 TDs vs those same teams.  Case closed.

No one is trying to say Boheme shouldn't have won POY. I remember seeing earlier where there was a question in some of the poster's minds about it.  I don't choose NWC players of the week,so I guess others thought the freshman QB deserved it 3 consecutive weeks in a row. Nor do I choose who gets on the all conference team.  In my opinion...you seem to think that Linfield should stand alone on everything.  But....the stats week by week tell a different story.  Also, there is the fact that we have a freshman on a team that is rebuilding vs a senior with an all star cast.  If you think Boheme is so much better then why all the talk about the freshman QB.  Boheme should have won by a long shot.  CASE CLOSED

[BearcatChatter]

Seriously??  Looking at the stats game by game I'm surprised you are even saying that...you just have to be on the winning team with an all star cast.  Congratulations Linfield for a great season.  

I guess the 5 TDs vs Willamette (3 rush, 2 pass), the 5 TDs vs Whitworth (3 rush, 2 pass) or the 3 passing TDs vs PLU had zero to do with Boehme winning it back-to-back.  That's 13 TDs against the number 2-4 teams in the NWC...Welch only had 3 TDs vs those same teams.  Case closed.

WC11, it has been said before that it's a cold day in hell when Bearcats and Wildcats agree. Welch doesn't deserve to be on the same list as him, not even close. I'd almost go so far as to argue Welch being an honorable mention behind Rasmussen. Sure, Welch is fabulous as a player, but Rasmussen works his system very well and is an extremely accurate passer.

Bright future for Welch though. Don't grovel on the present, instead be happy that you'll have him for three more years, while Boehme is gone (thank god...)

[BearcatChatter]

In all seriousness though I'm bummed to see Sparky didn't make first team.  He may have been overshadowed my the incredible stats put up by Hedin but that is no excuse, in any other year he would have been a shoe-in for 1st team.  In my opinion (on the other hand, I know nothing about the other guys who got 1st team DL).

FarAway, my personal input is that Walter Robinson deserved that mention without a doubt. He's been our top pass rusher consistently all season, despite being put in a (often questionable) 3 down-lineman set. Man is a hard worker, and gets results. Big FF against PLU that put us back in the game.

I questioned Alvarado however. He's great against the run, there's no doubting that. But he was never that outstanding defensive force that I thought warranted First Team. On the year, 17 tackles and 2.5 sacks.

Likely, Gonzalez got forgotten about due to the behemoth on the other side of the line. God damn. What is that guy doing after graduation?

[FarAwayCat]

Thanks for the info BCC.  As I mentioned,  i really don't know much about the other players.  Although if Hedin hadn't been there, I'm sure Sparky would have been on first team, right? Of course lets hypothetically say that all Linfield (or Bearkitties if it makes you feel better) players are far and above better than the rest of the players at all positions on all teams, it would be impossible to still not select some other guys from other teams to equal the balance.  Either way it would be tough to make selections no matter what.  Easy solution is just to pick multiple first teamers for each position.

Big FF against PLU that put us back in the game.

? what does FF mean?

[wildcat11]

Chatter,

Playing an almost exclusive 3 man front would be tough because of the extra bodies and Robinson is a dang good player so I don't have a beef with him getting the nod.  Love Sparky and I'm very thankful he'll be back next season.  I also agree with you about Rasmussen too, he would have been my 2nd teamer behind Boehme.

[WildcatMomma]

Seriously??  Looking at the stats game by game I'm surprised you are even saying that...you just have to be on the winning team with an all star cast.  Congratulations Linfield for a great season. 

I guess the 5 TDs vs Willamette (3 rush, 2 pass), the 5 TDs vs Whitworth (3 rush, 2 pass) or the 3 passing TDs vs PLU had zero to do with Boehme winning it back-to-back.  That's 13 TDs against the number 2-4 teams in the NWC...Welch only had 3 TDs vs those same teams.  Case closed.

No one is trying to say Boheme shouldn't have won POY. I remember seeing earlier where there was a question in some of the poster's minds about it.  I don't choose NWC players of the week,so I guess others thought the freshman QB deserved it 3 consecutive weeks in a row. Nor do I choose who gets on the all conference team.  In my opinion...you seem to think that Linfield should stand alone on everything.  But....the stats week by week tell a different story.  Also, there is the fact that we have a freshman on a team that is rebuilding vs a senior with an all star cast.  If you think Boheme is so much better then why all the talk about the freshman QB.  Boheme should have won by a long shot.  CASE CLOSED

Really? Case closed? How can that be? If the red-shirt freshman QB Welch is so terrific where was he during the game v Linfield? Oh, yeah, he has a concussion... he may be a good QB but apparently his OL can't protect him well enough. Boheme has a terrific OL to protect him so he can make those amazing passes and plays... he is given all the time in the world, doesn't panic and is able to pull off some great things!

[Lady Pio]

Seriously??  Looking at the stats game by game I'm surprised you are even saying that...you just have to be on the winning team with an all star cast.  Congratulations Linfield for a great season.  

I guess the 5 TDs vs Willamette (3 rush, 2 pass), the 5 TDs vs Whitworth (3 rush, 2 pass) or the 3 passing TDs vs PLU had zero to do with Boehme winning it back-to-back.  That's 13 TDs against the number 2-4 teams in the NWC...Welch only had 3 TDs vs those same teams.  Case closed.

WC11, it has been said before that it's a cold day in hell when Bearcats and Wildcats agree. Welch doesn't deserve to be on the same list as him, not even close. I'd almost go so far as to argue Welch being an honorable mention behind Rasmussen. Sure, Welch is fabulous as a player, but Rasmussen works his system very well and is an extremely accurate passer.

Bright future for Welch though. Don't grovel on the present, instead be happy that you'll have him for three more years, while Boehme is gone (thank god...)

He doesn't deserve to be on the same list as Boheme?  WHAT ABOUT WHAT THE STATS SAY??  ARE WE LOOKING AT THE SAME ONES???

[Lady Pio]

Seriously??  Looking at the stats game by game I'm surprised you are even saying that...you just have to be on the winning team with an all star cast.  Congratulations Linfield for a great season. 

I guess the 5 TDs vs Willamette (3 rush, 2 pass), the 5 TDs vs Whitworth (3 rush, 2 pass) or the 3 passing TDs vs PLU had zero to do with Boehme winning it back-to-back.  That's 13 TDs against the number 2-4 teams in the NWC...Welch only had 3 TDs vs those same teams.  Case closed.

No one is trying to say Boheme shouldn't have won POY. I remember seeing earlier where there was a question in some of the poster's minds about it.  I don't choose NWC players of the week,so I guess others thought the freshman QB deserved it 3 consecutive weeks in a row. Nor do I choose who gets on the all conference team.  In my opinion...you seem to think that Linfield should stand alone on everything.  But....the stats week by week tell a different story.  Also, there is the fact that we have a freshman on a team that is rebuilding vs a senior with an all star cast.  If you think Boheme is so much better then why all the talk about the freshman QB.  Boheme should have won by a long shot.  CASE CLOSED

Really? Case closed? How can that be? If the red-shirt freshman QB Welch is so terrific where was he during the game v Linfield? Oh, yeah, he has a concussion... he may be a good QB but apparently his OL can't protect him well enough. Boheme has a terrific OL to protect him so he can make those amazing passes and plays... he is given all the time in the world, doesn't panic and is able to pull off some great things!

Where was he?  If you must be told when a player has suffers a concussion they can't play then so be it.  Didn't I say that L&C is rebuilding and that Linfield has an allstar cast?   Why aren't you addressing what I said about the stats? 

[Lady Pio]

Seriously??  Looking at the stats game by game I'm surprised you are even saying that...you just have to be on the winning team with an all star cast.  Congratulations Linfield for a great season.  

I guess the 5 TDs vs Willamette (3 rush, 2 pass), the 5 TDs vs Whitworth (3 rush, 2 pass) or the 3 passing TDs vs PLU had zero to do with Boehme winning it back-to-back.  That's 13 TDs against the number 2-4 teams in the NWC...Welch only had 3 TDs vs those same teams.  Case closed.

WC11, it has been said before that it's a cold day in hell when Bearcats and Wildcats agree. Welch doesn't deserve to be on the same list as him, not even close. I'd almost go so far as to argue Welch being an honorable mention behind Rasmussen. Sure, Welch is fabulous as a player, but Rasmussen works his system very well and is an extremely accurate passer.

Bright future for Welch though. Don't grovel on the present, instead be happy that you'll have him for three more years, while Boehme is gone (thank god...)

Not on the same list?  Honorable Mention?  Really??? What stats are you looking at???

[wildcat11]

Lady Pio,

Stats say Welch only accounted for 13 TDs in conference play (with 7 of those in the UPS game) while Boehme almost doubled that in NWC play (24).  Stats say he's good but not in Boehme's class this year.  Nothing wrong with that.  Welch is a good player.

[FarAwayCat]

I'm not going to get anymore into the Welch Stats and all that crap.  But I will quickly standup and defend the concussion issue.  There is absolutely nothing that anyone should question in those regards.  A concussion is a very serious issue and should be addressed as so.  Good OL or not players from all teams end up with concussions.  Whether it was Welchs, his coaches, or his trainers decision not to play shouldn't be questioned either.

[RedandPurple]

In all seriousness though I'm bummed to see Sparky didn't make first team.  He may have been overshadowed my the incredible stats put up by Hedin but that is no excuse, in any other year he would have been a shoe-in for 1st team.  In my opinion (on the other hand, I know nothing about the other guys who got 1st team DL).

FarAway, my personal input is that Walter Robinson deserved that mention without a doubt. He's been our top pass rusher consistently all season, despite being put in a (often questionable) 3 down-lineman set. Man is a hard worker, and gets results. Big FF against PLU that put us back in the game.

I questioned Alvarado however. He's great against the run, there's no doubting that. But he was never that outstanding defensive force that I thought warranted First Team. On the year, 17 tackles and 2.5 sacks.

Likely, Gonzalez got forgotten about due to the behemoth on the other side of the line. God damn. What is that guy doing after graduation?

'Cmon BearcatChatter... a good writer like yourself could have chosen a different phrase don't you think.