FB: Northwest Conference

[D O.C.]

That's a very good idea since you'll only be playing one.

[CAT BAT 22]

I see you all are booking your flights for the 2nd and 3rd round ... make sure you get traveler's insurance or avoid airlines with large cancellation fees ... We are only focused on one game.

-Go LU

Which works out nicely, because that's all you'll be playing. 

[Teamski]

That's a very good idea since you'll only be playing one.

Wow, and I thought that the trash talking was reserved for the East Coast and a couple purple team fans, hehehehe.  Hardcore!

-Ski

[bluenote]

That's a very good idea since you'll only be playing one.

Wow, and I thought that the trash talking was reserved for the East Coast and a couple purple team fans, hehehehe.  Hardcore!

-Ski

That's trash talk? 

[MonroviaCat]

That's a very good idea since you'll only be playing one.

Wow, and I thought that the trash talking was reserved for the East Coast and a couple purple team fans, hehehehe.  Hardcore!

-Ski

BTW--we're all purple team fans here (well CLU and Linfield anyway)!

[wildcatter23]

Pat, I would like some information to validate the use of the Strength of Schedule as a method of evaluation.  All teams are stuck with the value of the teams they play, ESPECIALLY in their conferences/leagues.  They can TRY to schedule out of league, as Linfield and other NWC teams do, but find a paucity of willing takers - travel cost, distance, and reluctance to risk defeats.  As a result a 9-0 team like Linfield, and others, end up with lower SoS than some 0-9 teams!  As long as the SoS is factored in, the system penalizes some better teams, and rewards some lesser teams!  (Sorry, end of rant!) 

[wesleydad]

wildcatter, wesley knows all about having trouble finding games, they had 3 non d 3 games this year.  if linfield had stayed in the west, if they kept the brackets that way, where do you think they would have been seeded.  wesley was 3rd in region and then hopkins gets moved so they move up to 2, or at least that is what i think happened.  if linfield was a 2 out west, they may have been put at 3 with the move.  just a guess here on my part.  plus they keep insisting that there are no seeds, so we will know saturday evening.  what we do know is that if you win and we win, then we will play.  good luck saturday.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Pat, I would like some information to validate the use of the Strength of Schedule as a method of evaluation.  All teams are stuck with the value of the teams they play, ESPECIALLY in their conferences/leagues.  They can TRY to schedule out of league, as Linfield and other NWC teams do, but find a paucity of willing takers - travel cost, distance, and reluctance to risk defeats.  As a result a 9-0 team like Linfield, and others, end up with lower SoS than some 0-9 teams!  As long as the SoS is factored in, the system penalizes some better teams, and rewards some lesser teams!  (Sorry, end of rant!) 

It is inevitable that 0-9 teams may have a better SOS than 9-0 teams - they didn't get to play themselves!  More seriously, I think SOS only comes into play if teams have equal records, or at most are separated by a game or two.  Regardless of SOS, you are unlikely to ever see a 3-loss team get a C, a B, or a high seed (if AQ).  I WISH the committee would give more weight to SOS for C purposes for comparing 1-loss vs. 2-loss teams, but (despite SJF this year) 2-loss pool C picks are almost an engangered species.

[criswyly]

Yeah, I remember that NWC 1999 team.  The consensus was that since Rowan squeaked by MUC the following week....the National Championship was just a formality that Rowan had to show up and claim the walnut and bronze, after the game. 

However, Rowan and most of D3 were in for a rude awakening that day as the Lutes monkeystomped the unsuspecting Profs....even before the half.

I'm looking forward to a similar scenario this year.  We know the Cats can do it.

[bluenote]

Pat, I would like some information to validate the use of the Strength of Schedule as a method of evaluation.  All teams are stuck with the value of the teams they play, ESPECIALLY in their conferences/leagues.  They can TRY to schedule out of league, as Linfield and other NWC teams do, but find a paucity of willing takers - travel cost, distance, and reluctance to risk defeats.  As a result a 9-0 team like Linfield, and others, end up with lower SoS than some 0-9 teams!  As long as the SoS is factored in, the system penalizes some better teams, and rewards some lesser teams!  (Sorry, end of rant!) 

From what I can figure out is they just sit down and have a few beers and play their game. Plus it depends on who is on the committee......it's kind of like the old backroom bar deals with the cigars and libations. Then they come up with this bracket that favors one of the fat cats in the room. Usually MUC or Whitewater.

[Pat Coleman]

Yeah, I remember that NWC 1999 team.  The consensus was that since Rowan squeaked by MUC the following week....the National Championship was just a formality that Rowan had to show up and claim the walnut and bronze, after the game.

Wrong. A majority of D3football.com prognosticators picked Pacific Lutheran.

[Pat Coleman]

From what I can figure out is they just sit down and have a few beers and play their game. Plus it depends on who is on the committee......it's kind of like the old backroom bar deals with the cigars and libations. Then they come up with this bracket that favors one of the fat cats in the room. Usually MUC or Whitewater.

I know you are just trying to stir up ****, because that's what you do, but for the record, Mount Union has never had a rep on the committee in the 13 years we've been here.

Stuff like this post is a barrier to actual discussion. It detracts from legitimate questions, Blue. It's been, what, a decade? Perhaps you can grow past this stuff.

[D O.C.]

From your soul, Bluenote. No on can deny you your feelings! (11 years, I believe)

[George Thompson]

Pat, I would like some information to validate the use of the Strength of Schedule as a method of evaluation.  All teams are stuck with the value of the teams they play, ESPECIALLY in their conferences/leagues.  They can TRY to schedule out of league, as Linfield and other NWC teams do, but find a paucity of willing takers - travel cost, distance, and reluctance to risk defeats.  As a result a 9-0 team like Linfield, and others, end up with lower SoS than some 0-9 teams!  As long as the SoS is factored in, the system penalizes some better teams, and rewards some lesser teams!  (Sorry, end of rant!) 

Wildcatter23, you are so right!   The west coast teams are unduly penalized because it is so far and expensive to schedule good non-conference games.   Linfield should be the #2 seed, or #1, in this bracket; but no one knows for sure.

Prove the NCAA wrong: beat Cal Lutheran --- again!

George

GO CATS! GO!

[Pat Coleman]

From your soul, Bluenote. No on can deny you your feelings! (11 years, I believe)

I wasn't sure he had any Linfield stuff to gripe about in 1999, which is why I dated it to 2000.