FB: Northwest Conference

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criswyly

SOU passed on us....you gotta be kidding.............
Don't forget your booties cause it's cold out there!

D O.C.

I am missing Pst's take somehow.


d-train

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Pat's suggestion makes sense and might shed some other light and details on the situation (from a NWC AD). Is Van Diest only interested in a game in Helena? ...or have NWC schools responded with an 'only if you come here, no return trip' kind of attitude? Have they been rejected multiple times, or is he just blowing smoke?

I agree that in many ways a home-and-home between Whitworth and EOU/Carroll, or Linfield/Willamette and SOU makes more sense than some of the ways each have filled their schedules...but that's kind of the way the thing is directed from the top (NCAA) with playoff criteria, etc.

What makes the most sense (IMO) is more flexibility in terms of dual-affiliation. WOU, CWU, Simon Fraser, Humboldt, and Azusa Pacific should be football-only members of the NAIA and the Frontier Conference (or vice-versa with Carroll et al. as football-only members of D-2/GNAC).  The GNAC is the league with the same problem as the Frontier - not the NWC.

MonroviaCat

Quote from: D O.C. on November 03, 2015, 10:37:59 AM
I am missing Pst's take somehow.
if you mean "Pat's" take--you need to read between the lines (inside the quote).
Go Cats!

D O.C.

Oh.  ;D  Thanks

QuoteI notice they didn't bother to try to contact any NWC schools for the story.

Pat Coleman

Wow -- I failed Quoting 101 this morning and didn't even notice. :)
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d-train

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 03, 2015, 05:46:45 PM
Wow -- I failed Quoting 101 this morning and didn't even notice. :)

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Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat

There sure doesn't seem to be any incentive to scheduling non-D3 teams... losses kill your at-large Pool C chances and wins don't help.  The other issue is recruiting students and athletes - not too many players are going to come from Montana as compared to SoCal - population bases are radically different.

Perhaps the biggest benefit to a home and home would be financial.  I'd guess a bus trip is going to be cheaper than airfare to Texas or SoCal.

I like the dual affiliation concept but that is a no go for some reason. 

I don't see the NWC getting cozy with NAIA or DII regional teams - school philosophies are too different.  We've got WOU just 30 minutes down the road and never need to play them again - the classless bunch of chumps that they have been historically.

Now SOU would be a good rivalry to rekindle but it sounds like they aren't interested at this time.  I wouldn't want to play SOU and MHB for our non-conference games as that would give us zero margin for error in the NWC - assuming that we'd lose a game or two in the series.

(509)Rat

Ask Whitworth what benefit you get from playing EOU, Montana Tech....or Azusa Pacific...

d-train

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Quote from: Walla Walla Wildcat on November 03, 2015, 08:31:14 PM
There sure doesn't seem to be any incentive to scheduling non-D3 teams... losses kill your at-large Pool C chances and wins don't help.  The other issue is recruiting students and athletes - not too many players are going to come from Montana as compared to SoCal - population bases are radically different.

Perhaps the biggest benefit to a home and home would be financial.  I'd guess a bus trip is going to be cheaper than airfare to Texas or SoCal.

I like the dual affiliation concept but that is a no go for some reason. 

I don't see the NWC getting cozy with NAIA or DII regional teams - school philosophies are too different.  We've got WOU just 30 minutes down the road and never need to play them again - the classless bunch of chumps that they have been historically.

Now SOU would be a good rivalry to rekindle but it sounds like they aren't interested at this time.  I wouldn't want to play SOU and MHB for our non-conference games as that would give us zero margin for error in the NWC - assuming that we'd lose a game or two in the series.

SOU and WOU don't even play each other. That's the stranger thing to me. They are very close in terms of talent, school 'philosophy', spring ball/practices, and scholarship level.

If the GNAC and Frontier could get some type of wavier/flexibility (from the NCAA and NAIA) in how games were counted, they could fill each other's schedules without the goofy double round robin stuff.   

Quote from: (509)Rat on November 03, 2015, 08:38:58 PM
Ask Whitworth what benefit you get from playing EOU, Montana Tech....or Azusa Pacific...

True, the Azusa loss was certainly a factor in that '07 fiasco.   

D O.C.

+ to PC.
I agree with Walla Walla Wildcat's take.

bluenote

Linfield is in a weak league as far as I am concerned? Who want's to prove me wrong.....? I'd like to hear from some other teams?

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Bluenote on November 04, 2015, 12:19:43 AM
Linfield is in a weak league as far as I am concerned? Who want's to prove me wrong.....? I'd like to hear from some other teams?

True.  Linfield needs a Hardin-Simmons or UW-Oshkosh to put 'em in their place! ;D

(And UMU needs a 2005 ONU to do the same. ;))

bluenote