FB: Northwest Conference

[Pat Coleman]

LCV originally started by playing seattle area Junior College teams and after some sustained success made the jump as an NCAA independent.

I'm sorry, but that's just not correct. They are not an NCAA independent because they are not members of the NCAA.

[WestCoast CFB fan]

LCV originally started by playing seattle area Junior College teams and after some sustained success made the jump as an NCAA independent.

I'm sorry, but that's just not correct. They are not an NCAA independent because they are not members of the NCAA.

You are correct they are an NCAA affiliate. Let's move on from the topic now

[02 Warhawk]

I'm looking to get the West Fan poll up and running again this year, and I have a few open spots available. Please send me a PM if you're interested in participating the season.

Thanks!

[Pat Coleman]

LCV originally started by playing seattle area Junior College teams and after some sustained success made the jump as an NCAA independent.

I'm sorry, but that's just not correct. They are not an NCAA independent because they are not members of the NCAA.

You are correct they are an NCAA affiliate. Let's move on from the topic now

No. They are not even an NCAA affiliate. They are just an independent club team that has no membership or relationship with the National Collegiate Athletic Association.

Sorry. I'm not going to move on until we're done posting misinformation.

[WestCoast CFB fan]

LCV originally started by playing seattle area Junior College teams and after some sustained success made the jump as an NCAA independent.

I'm sorry, but that's just not correct. They are not an NCAA independent because they are not members of the NCAA.

You are correct they are an NCAA affiliate. Let's move on from the topic now

No. They are not even an NCAA affiliate. They are just an independent club team that has no membership or relationship with the National Collegiate Athletic Association.

Sorry. I'm not going to move on until we're done posting misinformation.

I was just going off what their website stated. Sorry if I posted misinformation I was doing my best to fill people in had no intentions of doing otherwise. Perhaps I am wrong!

[Pat Coleman]

Yes. They are actively misstating their status. This is what defines an affiliated member of the NCAA and I don't see where LCV qualifies. (Nor would being an affiliated member confer any official status on their games.)

Affiliated Member
An affiliated member is a nonprofit coaches or sports association whose function and purpose are directly related to one or more sports in which the NCAA conducts championships or an emerging sport for women, or an association that consists of college/university administrators and has a direct connection to either the NCAA or its member institutions.

[speedybigboy]

Have you guys read about the Lewis-Clark Valley Loggers? I saw that Pacific was playing them and as I had never heard of the team I looked them up. A really cool program from what I can tell and maybe a future 9th football team in the NWC?

Based on how they're set up, there is no way this club program could ever play in Division III. I know the coach there thinks it's possible but Lewis-Clark State already has membership outside of Division III and there is no framework for an athletic program to mix students from multiple schools.

The fact that three varsity programs are playing this club opponent is something I consider embarrassing for Division III. At least with Pacific it's on top of a relatively full schedule and it's basically a scrimmage.

Pacific is a scrimmage.  These are JV games for the rest of the DIII schools...no varsity players will be taking part of the "JV" games.

NWC schools have JV schedules??? I need to pay better attention.

[Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat]

With Pacific and George Fox now having substantial rosters it would be nice to see a really solid JV schedule.  I don't know if Whitworth would be willing to commit with the distance but I could see playing Pacific and GF twice a year plus a handful of other teams.  I know that we played Willamette a couple of times each year for JV games when I was a playing and it was a lot of fun... better than practice that is for sure.

[Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat]

A bit early but here are my predictions for the NWC -

Linfield 7-1 
Whitworth 6-2
George Fox 5-3
Pacific 4-4
PLU 3-5
Willamette 3-5
UPS 3-5
Lewis & Clark 2-6

My math is a bit off but that is at least the projected order.  My guess is that Whitworth is thinking that this is their year with the senior quarterback, a loaded offense, and Linfield losing so much.  GFU has to be feeling good about their experience coming back and it being the 4th year of action on the field.

[D O.C.]

The loss is to UMHB?

[D O.C.]

Drinking from the dead horse trough tonight, I guess.

Found this from February 22, 2017.

By MATT BANEY, sports editor of the Lewiston, Idaho, Tribune daily newspaper Feb 22, 2017


When the Lewis-Clark Valley Loggers football program kicks off its fourth season this fall, it will do so with the NCAA's seal of approval.


Last week, the Loggers were granted affiliated membership with the NCAA, program director and founder Bob Thorson told the Tribune. LCV can now play official varsity games against NCAA Division III opponents, and has at least one such game lined up for the 2017 season.


The Loggers will still play in the Northwest Junior College Football League, but their new status grants them several more nonleague options.


LCV draws its players from Lewis-Clark State College in Lewiston, Walla Walla Community College in Clarkston and Northwest Indian College in Lapwai, but isn't officially affiliated with any of those schools. The independent, self-funded program was created from scratch by Thorson and coach Jeff Schumacher in the summer of 2013.


During their first three seasons, the Loggers augmented their schedule with games against NCAA Division III teams from the Northwest Conference. Those teams would send out their younger players to take on the Loggers in "JV" games.


The schools in the NWC took a liking to the LCV program, Thorson said, and suggested the Loggers petition the NCAA for affiliated membership.


"Basically, it was their way of saying, 'We'd like to have you be one of us, in whatever extent you can be,' " Thorson said. "I was busy during the season and I didn't really give it that much thought, but then after the season, I thought, well, I'll check this out and just investigate and see if there's a way that we can be invited to the party. I knew we wouldn't sit at the head table, but if we could get in the door, that would be beyond whatever we thought would happen."


Thorson began the process in early January and, last week, got word that the Loggers had been approved. They are one of 40 affiliated members, though none of the others is a football program like LCV.


The Loggers have modeled themselves like a D-III program, Thorson said, and will continue with that mind set. They are now subject to some NCAA bylaws, but not all of them.


LCV probably won't play varsity games against Northwest Conference teams, since their rosters number in the triple digits. But Thorson wants to schedule games with smaller teams in the Midwest, and already has one set: Sept. 30 at Finlandia of Hancock, Mich.


"If you look in Minnesota and Michigan and Wisconsin and Iowa ... there's a real solid pocket of Division III programs," Thorson said. "And that's where we find a lot of the programs that have between 50 and 90 players on their rosters."


It won't be hard for the Loggers to find willing D-III opponents, Thorson said. Those schools probably won't be willing to travel here to play the Loggers, though Thorson will look into scheduling home-and-home contracts with them.


Without school affiliations, LCV won't be able to gain full-fledged NCAA status.


"So basically what they were saying is, 'We're going to take you as far we can go,' and this is it," Thorson said. "Like I said, we're extremely happy for us to have that."


NOTES - The teams in the NWJCFL have approved a fourth year of eligibility on an "honors basis," Thorson said. Such players would have to be wrapping up their degree and maintain a 3.0 grade-point average. Thorson said the Loggers have some players interested in suiting up for a fourth year.

[Pat Coleman]

Yeah. The coach called us too and tried to sell us this line but we know more about how NCAA membership works than the Lewistown Tribune does.

[D O.C.]

I figured you did. 

[D O.C.]

It's fun to cheer for the University of Oregon because they win a lot. Especially in the last 15 years. But Oregonians who want to avoid heartbreak in the long term should look to Linfield College, an Oregon team with a much better all-time win percentage than the Ducks

http://www.reviews.org/college-football-wins/

[spiritof86]

A bit early but here are my predictions for the NWC -

Linfield 7-1 
Whitworth 6-2
George Fox 5-3
Pacific 4-4
PLU 3-5
Willamette 3-5
UPS 3-5
Lewis & Clark 2-6

My math is a bit off but that is at least the projected order.  My guess is that Whitworth is thinking that this is their year with the senior quarterback, a loaded offense, and Linfield losing so much.  GFU has to be feeling good about their experience coming back and it being the 4th year of action on the field.

So, every team has one game that you prefer not to predict?