FB: Northwest Conference

[Jack Parkman]

Is Huntingdon coming to Linfield next year?

I was told last fall that it's a one game deal because we have contract starting in '23 with Berry for week 1.

I figured that was the case.... was just hoping it wasn't. I think it would have been a fun trip for the team to come out to the Pacific NW.

Y'all aren't looking for a game week 2 are you? Judging by the conversation in the Southern Athletic Association board it's possible we could be available for that trip to the Pacific NW after all.

Linfield is starting a 2 year deal with Carroll (NAIA - MT) and a SCIAC school to round out the non conference schedule
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A SCIAC school other than Redlands?

[retagent]

You do know that John Gagliardi coached Carroll prior to his going to St John's.

[George Thompson]

Linfield is starting a 2 year deal with Carroll (NAIA - MT) and a SCIAC school to round out the non conference schedule

So, no 2 year deal with the southern school, Berry?

GT

[George Thompson]

I'd like to see a lot of pre-snap motion and then motion at the snap of the ball.. kind of like the Canadian football but east-west vs north-south... I am seeing a whole bunch of this type of movement in both college and the NFL... Get Valadez and Wolfe moving at the snap after adjusting multiple bodies prior to the snap...

That sounds good.   But, you can only have one man moving, correct?

That idea and improving our rushing game are good.

GT+

[D O.C.]

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the Seniors!

[MonroviaCat]

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the Seniors!

c'mon doc—why so exclusive?  Us middle aged guys need some happy new year wishes, too.

[D O.C.]

Funny Guy
You and CalCat too

[olddog]

Northwest Board Question.

In light of Whittier dropping football and sports soon. Local alumni is not happy, dislike the pres.

Why did Pacific and GF bring back football? What were their reasons, did they get the results they wanted?

PS. I have DOC giving me the first sarcastic answer over Blue on this question.....might be a wild card out there too.

[wildcat11]

Olddog,

When I was still blogging and Pacific came back, I interviewed the Pacific AD a few times.  There were two driving reasons: 1) The University needs modest growth to keep their budget afloat (Football would help) 2) Football would also help bring the male/female ration closer to even (Sat at 66/34 before 2010)

Here is also an article back from 2009:

http://www.forestgrovenewstimes.com/news/story.php?story_id=123554781111828300 (dead link)

Pacific football proposal gains some ground

University officials hope the program, which could boost enrollment, will resume next year

By Jennifer Connor
The Forest Grovem, Ore., News-Times, Feb 25, 2009

When Ken Schumann describes it, bringing the football program back to Pacific University sounds like the next sports blockbuster flick, complete with star athletes and cheering fans at Homecoming 2010.

"Alumni would come back in droves," said Pacific's athletic director.

But even a movie with a bankable story line can be a flop at the box office, which is why the university's push to resume the sport faces skepticism from those who spend more time thinking about the bottom line than the goal line.

One of those who's been convinced is John Hayes, dean of the College of Arts and Sciences, who said he would probably have voted against the proposal if it had come before the faculty vote three years ago.

He now believes that football is not only good for sports fans, but also for the university's finances — by providing a needed boost to enrollment.

Bumping up enrollment

Hayes insists that once football is established, it not only would pay for itself and the cost to educate the players, it would actually contribute to the university's overhead costs.

In a report co-authored with Schumann, Hayes notes that Pacific's undergraduate enrollment, which was increasing by 40 students a year, tapered off last fall.

Resuming a football program could bring close to 100 student athletes to campus in a short period. Schumann anticipates a minimum of 50 players in the first season, rising to 90 players by the fall of 2013.

The majority of those students would be athletes who, he said, might rule out Pacific now because they cannot play football.

In addition, the report estimates the program could draw up to 40 other students — including friends and spouses — as well.

The inclusion of that last figure is one of several sticking points for critics of the proposal.

"The non-athlete numbers are purely speculative," said professor Jeff Seward, who chairs the Politics and Government department and is chair-elect of the faculty senate. "You do not budget that way."

Seward, who has written a response to Hayes and Schumann's proposal, said he worries that rather than developing as a financial asset, the football program could become a liability.

Pacific tracks the amount of money students pay in tuition, which it counts as revenue, as well as the cost of their education. The difference, known as "overhead contribution," pays for non-classroom costs.

Seward noted that the College of Arts and Sciences returns 50 percent of its revenues as an overhead contribution, while the football program is estimated to contribute only 25 percent, increasing to 36 percent by 2013. (Because Pacific is a Division III school, it cannot award athletic scholarships, but the program would require coaches and incur other expenses.)

Seward said his concern is not only with the share going to overhead but also with its reliance on non-athlete tuition.

Seward wants to know what contingency plan would be put in place should the football program draw fewer students than expected.

"Three things could happen," he said. "One, you starve university services that are already underfunded and understaffed. Second, other colleges [within Pacific] will have to increase their contribution to cover the shortfall. Or third, academic programs will face cuts."

Hayes, however, insists that the financial plan is solid, eventually exceeding $2 million in revenues with expenses maxing out at $1.6 million.

Hays added that he intentionally overestimated expenses to ensure that costs are covered. "The budget is at least $30,000 higher than others, including Linfield College," he said.

Hayes and Schumann have been busy presenting the proposal to various student and staff groups, a push that continues this week.

They will attend a noon forum with students today, Wednesday, Feb. 25. And, the Faculty Senate is also planning to discuss the proposal at its meeting this Thursday.

Although the faculty and students have only advisory roles, Hayes said he expects the Board of Trustees, which has the final say, will listen closely to all perspectives.

"If the school is overwhelmingly against it, the trustees probably would not approve football," Hayes said.

The board is expected to vote on the proposal at its May meeting.

Football Finance 101

While Division I sports teams can dream of television contracts and big gate receipts, Pacific University is banking on football to help its finances in a different way: enrollment.

While the proposal is counting on a big fund-raising push the first few years (including $670,653 the first year) the program is supposed to quickly support itself on the tuition brought in by student athletes. Here's a snapshot of how the football program is expected to pencil out during its fourth season (2013-14).

Revenue

Student athlete tuition: $2,042,820*
Tickets, concessions, etc. 41,500
Fundraising 75,000
Total $2,159,320

Expenses

Education costs $919,269
Football staff (incl. benefits) $474,721
Other expenses $276,880

Total $1,670,870

* Based on 90 football players. Doesn't include revenue of expenses associated with the estimated 40 other students expected to enroll because of the football program.

[olddog]

thank you Wildcat, great job as usual

[D O.C.]

sarcasm: didn't PC tell you lay off all those factual political ramblings?

[olddog]

Hard to figure out what is downhill quicker DOC or the State of CA...

my vote its close but the State

[bluenote]

Just read an article in the local rag that Joel Valadez, Linfield's leading receiver the past 2 years is transferring to Oregon State. I'm assuming as a walk on. I hope he does well but it will be interesting to see if he gets much playing time. He doesn't seem to have the size or speed to play D1 but I could be wrong. Any thoughts???

[MonroviaCat]

https://golinfieldwildcats.com/news/2023/1/27/football-linfield-announces-2023-football-schedule.aspx

What happened to Carroll?

[wildcat11]

https://golinfieldwildcats.com/news/2023/1/27/football-linfield-announces-2023-football-schedule.aspx

What happened to Carroll?

Guess it fell out.  That's cool, going to the Vancouver area will be fun.