FB: Northwest Conference

[d-train]

The Mrs. 11 reference was not meant to be taken seriously. I have no idea if she'd be interested in coaching men's hoops, or college hoops for that matter. I just know that she has been (and probably still is) some type of basketball coach.

I've heard both things about Albertson's. That they'd ideally love to be in D-3 and the NWC, but also that they have a good thing going with a few other sports in NAIA and probably need the scholarships which NAIA allows to get football players on campus. So, I don't really know. I think the NWC would be very open to having them join as an affiliate member or for all sports.

However, if they do stay NAIA and start up football, I'm assuming they would not be independent. They'd probably head for the Frontier Conference like Eastern Oregon...unless Asuza, SOU, and a few others (WOU?, Menlo?, Humbolt?) banded together to form a viable alternative for EOU and Albertson's.

[coyote]

Two things - Albertson as a College wants to go Division III in a bad way...the only way the school can be a Top-100 Liberal Arts College is to go D-III and join the NWC...if they go, they will go in all sports (the school has every sport the NWC offers - minus men's tennis)...

The other is that there is talk of a West Coast football alliance for all Non D-I, Non D-III, Non-Frontier schools...

Azusa Pacific, Humboldt State (which just joined the non-football CCAA), Southern Oregon, Western Oregon, Eastern Oregon (which would leave the Frontier in a heartbeat), Western Washington, and Central Washington would be the nucleus of the league - with talk that both British Columbia and Simon Fraser would convert to American rules and join the league as NAIA members...

Heard Pacific will be working more on FB revenue now that they have the $$$ for their baseball/softball, track/soccer upgrades...

[rbaikie]

I knew that your reference was a joke - but funny how you mention somebody new caoching at Menlo right after the coach resigns.....

[d-train]

I knew that your reference was a joke - but funny how you mention somebody new caoching at Menlo right after the coach resigns.....

Yeah, that is funny. I had no idea about the opening.

[d-train]

Interesting stuff, coyote. This whole thing with the Washington schools signing up to play in the Dakotas doesn't make any sense. Some kind of West coast football affilation, regardless of whether individual members are NAIA or D-2, makes a lot more sense to me. They probably should have all stayed NAIA together...but that's spilled milk at this point.

[d-train]

Say, do you know if Dixie College (in Utah) has interest in that alliance? They are just making the jump up from a junior college program to D-2. They are probably closer to a conference in Colorado/Kansas or Okla/Texas, but I'm not sure those leagues have any openings.

BTW - I have no idea what Dixie is doing with their other sports. For all I know, the move to D-2 might only apply to football.

[rbaikie]

Dixie would be real close to the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference (RMAC) but they have nine members already, mostly in Colorado, but with New Mexico Highlands and Nebraska Kearney.

Lone Star conference has 2 divisions of 6 each, mostly Texas and Oklahoma.

Great Northwestern Conference only has 4 members, Humboldt, the two Washingtons, and Western OR. Not sure how stable it will be though.

Then a couple of other independents - Western NM and Panhandle State.

D2 can be a very difficult animal to pin down - Years ago, D2 was a lot more popular - even D2 non-scholarship - The big football conference in Northern California was D2 - Humboldt, UC-Davis, SF State, Sonoma State, plus at one time there were other D2 powers Santa Clara, St. Mary's, Cal Poly SLO -  Now only Humbodlt is D2 and SLO is 1AA.

[d-train]

Chico State had a team too, right? Title IX killed D-2 football in California.

I agree that the the GNAC is hardly viable for football with 4 members. (Thus the WA schools' move.) But with SOU, EOU, Azusa, and 1-3 more schools...a scheduling alliance might just work.

[rbaikie]

Yeah - When I played at Menlo (we were still a JC), our running back coach had been an all-star at Chico - Doug Dressler - he went on to play in the pros for New England and Kanasa City.

I know SOU is NAIA and so is Azusa - is EOU?  I have heard of schools that were D3 in some sports and NAIA in other sports. I'm not familiar with D2-NAIA hybrids - do any exist?  Or would it be logistically possible to have a conference that had both NAIA and D2 schools?

I know for Azusa, all of their other sports are Golden State Athletic Conference and this means an hour or so drive for most events. Don't think they would give that up just to promote football.

[d-train]

EOU went D-3 for a little while with their football team only, but they are now NAIA for all sports.

From the way coyote represented the alliance, it sounded more like a loose scheduling agreement of NAIA and D-2 teams rather a unified league under a single football affiliation.

Wildcat11 brought up a good point (in a message), however. He wondered if the Washington schools would really sign-on to play more than 1 or 2 NAIA teams every year when the playoff criteria are so focused on D-2 competition. In that sense, the alliance might have a better chance either without Simon Fraser and BC or without the two Washington schools. 

[frank uible]

Doug Dressler played 4 (1970-1973) out of his 7 NFL years for the Bengals.

[cawcdad]

Chico State had a team too, right? Title IX killed D-2 football in California.

Chico State did have football as did Cal State Hayward, now Cal State East Bay. Hayward and SF State both have very nice stadiums that sit all but idle. Sad.

[Jester59]

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[George Thompson]

I of course wish Coach Locey and Coach Riley well.     

The facts are OSU has had 7 head coaching changes since 1975, Dee Andros' last year.     Average 4.3 years per coach.

I repeat Division I is brutal, especially on the Oregon States of the world.     Competing against USC, UCLA, Washington and the others, year in and year out, is daunting.     The competition in the PAC 10 is a little rougher.

REPEAT:   I wish Coach Locey well.   Thank you sincerely for a lifetime of good Linfield memories.

[RedandPurple]

         RECEIVING           No.  Yds.     TD
         ------------------------------------------------------
Linfield: Allen, Casey      78   1314    22 
Rowan:  Silva, Phil          46  681        9

Phil signs with the Jets. Casey gets cut by Winnipeg.
Sometimes it just doesn't make any sense.