FB: Northwest Conference

[Gig Harbor Cat]

And I rest my case

[speedybigboy]

Three things to help Whitworth make the playoffs (as I see it)

1. Beat UPS
2. Oxy loss to Whittier
3. Redlands beats CLU

that way Whitworths only d3 loss is to a playoff bound team

[MonroviaCat]

Three things to help Whitworth make the playoffs (as I see it)

1. Beat UPS
2. Oxy loss to Whittier
3. Redlands beats CLU

that way Whitworths only d3 loss is to a playoff bound team

Actually, how about this---1.  Beat UPS 2>  Oxy loses to Whittier 3.  Redlands loses to CLU.  That scenario eliminates Oxy and Redlands (IMO) and sends CLU up to Whitworth for a game most likely.

[downtown48]

Can't can help but second guess when the starting D is pitching near shutouts for the last three weeks...but I wasn't there so I won't go too crazy on that one.  May have made sense depending on the momentum in the game.  5 picks certainly isn't the coaches fault however. 

Speedy...if the NWC Champion at 8-2 doesn't get into the playoffs...it will be an absolute farce!  One of those losses isn't even supposed to matter but we all know that's not true either...

[MonroviaCat]

Not real sure about passing up the field goal considering the fact that 1. we can't run the football and 2. Whitworth couldn't move the football all day.  Why wouldn't you take the lead and play D like you had been all day. 

George, I don't know why asking to be like St. John's and Mount every year is too much to ask.  They should be like them every year!  They just apparently haven't figured out that you can't turn the ball over 5 times every game! 

509, I echo Monrovia's thoughts.  Just when it looked like you weren't quite the prick that I thought you were, you come in here with that gem.  Just a reminder Linfield won DOZENS of conference chapionships before BE came to town and that's not going to change.  Linfield has won more conference championships this decade without BE than Whitworth has in the last 30 years.   Don't get too cocky, you beat a team by 4 points that you had a +5 on.  If you were the badasses you think you are you would have won by three touchdowns... Get a win next week, take care of the SCIAC sacrificial lamb, and then see if you can beat somebody from another conference in the playoffs.  Good win today... 

To be precise--Linfield has won 14 conference titles and 3 National Championships during the years that Whitworth has been in the conference.  Take away 2 Conference titles and 1 national championship for the BE years.  Let's see I'm not too good at math but I get 12 conference titles and 2 national championships without BE (in the years that Whitworth was in the same conference)...then o.k. subtract 2 conference titles by Whitworth (yeah....the've won two in their history with the NWC) that gives Linfield a +10....and then...Whitworth won national titles in ........uhm.......never?  So Linfield keeps their +2 in that catergory (again just counting years where the Rats were in direct competition with the Cats).  So, yes Whitworth has had two good years but let's not carried away......Despite my sarcasm here--I really do wish the Rats best of luck with making the playoffs and winning if they get there.  It only helps our conference. 

[speedybigboy]

Can't can help but second guess when the starting D is pitching near shutouts for the last three weeks...but I wasn't there so I won't go too crazy on that one.  May have made sense depending on the momentum in the game.  5 picks certainly isn't the coaches fault however. 

Speedy...if the NWC Champion at 8-2 doesn't get into the playoffs...it will be an absolute farce!  One of those losses isn't even supposed to matter but we all know that's not true either...

While I agree with you on our champ being deserving, I'm not sure that it matters given the system in place.

[speedybigboy]

Three things to help Whitworth make the playoffs (as I see it)

1. Beat UPS
2. Oxy loss to Whittier
3. Redlands beats CLU

that way Whitworths only d3 loss is to a playoff bound team

Actually, how about this---1.  Beat UPS 2>  Oxy loses to Whittier 3.  Redlands loses to CLU.  That scenario eliminates Oxy and Redlands (IMO) and sends CLU up to Whitworth for a game most likely.

I like your scenario better as it gives Whitworth a home game but I think given the Pool B/ Pool C thing it would be best for Whitworth if a Pool C candidate was eliminated.  CalLu certainly won't be a Pool C candidate. Oxy and Redlands could be and if Whitwoth drops to Pool C then it can't help that they would have lost h2h to another candidate (Redlands) if that be the case.

[wildcat82]

Heard the game on the radio, very frustrating.  Reading the above comments also makes me questions, did I as a Cat fan get spoiled with the likes of Brett Elliot, Allen, Hazenburg, Carter, Jenkins and the like?  Was that a special group of players that come along once every 20 yrs or so?  I Linfield destined to be a 6-3 team from here on out?  We seem to be loosing the recruiting wars over the last couple of years to WOU, UPS, Whitworth?  Has the tide changed for a decade or more?  Does this coaching staff have what it takes to win league championships year in and year out and go deep into the playoffs on a regular basis?  Is the Ace back offense really the right offense to be running post Brett Elliot?  How is it that we can have close to 200 kids show up for practice in the summer and just can't seem to find a power running back?
The fourth down and inches call and not going for the 3 points will certainly get some debate, but a bigger question for me is why wasn't your power running back getting the ball?  We have an all american caliber tight end who goes 2 to 3 games with never seeing a pass his way?  The penalties and turnovers game after game?  The Willamette game???  What the hell is going on?

[MonroviaCat]

Three things to help Whitworth make the playoffs (as I see it)

1. Beat UPS
2. Oxy loss to Whittier
3. Redlands beats CLU

that way Whitworths only d3 loss is to a playoff bound team

Actually, how about this---1.  Beat UPS 2>  Oxy loses to Whittier 3.  Redlands loses to CLU.  That scenario eliminates Oxy and Redlands (IMO) and sends CLU up to Whitworth for a game most likely.

I like your scenario better as it gives Whitworth a home game but I think given the Pool B/ Pool C thing it would be best for Whitworth if a Pool C candidate was eliminated.  CalLu certainly won't be a Pool C candidate. Oxy and Redlands could be and if Whitwoth drops to Pool C then it can't help that they would have lost h2h to another candidate (Redlands) if that be the case.

My point exactly---why not elimiate 2 pool c candidates (oxy and redlands) by both of them losing next week.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Hmm . . . seems to me that one of the big questions is whether Whitworth's win today boosts its regional ranking ahead of Oxy and Redlands.

If Oxy loses to Whittier and Cal Lu beats Redlands . . . that'll give Whitworth the best shot, imho and w/o doing research . . . I take the Rats victory next week as a given.

If Oxy beats Whittier and Cal Lu beats Redlands . . . I think the question will be whether Oxy stays regionally ranked by the NCAA over Whitworth . . .

If Redlands beats Cal Lu, and Oxy beats the Poets, then we have a three way tie for the conference championship.  Cal Lu gets the automatic bid per the "Rose Bowl" rule (team that has not been to playoffs) and you'll have two ranked SCIAC teams hoping to get a pool C . . . and though Oxy won the head to head . . . I think it's debatable who ends up ahead in the rankings . . .

If Oxy loses to the Poets and the Dawgs beat Cal Lu . . . that'll give the Dawgs the automatic given the head to head w/ Cal Lu . . . and no pool C for SCIAC. 

Just some ramblings . . . congrats to the 'Rats . . . I'd love to have an excuse to come up to Spokane for an Oxy-Whitworth rematch . . . though the current edition of the Tigers is not as good as last year's squad . . .

Hard luck to the Linfield faithful . . .

cheers,

tooth

[Jonny Utah]

How do you pronounce Oregon....

Is it Oregone or Oreginn ....(like ted ginn Jr.)

[speedybigboy]

How do you pronounce Oregon....

Is it Oregone or Oreginn ....(like ted ginn Jr.)

Or Oregun, like Tommy Gun?   

[speedybigboy]

My point exactly---why not elimiate 2 pool c candidates (oxy and redlands) by both of them losing next week.

true but my scenario also "elimates" two pool C candidates, Oxy with 2 losses, and Redlands as they move to pool A.

[(509)Rat]

This is great...Wildcat posters giving someone a hard time about boasting their teams accomplishments.  Congrats, you have a couple of NAIA DII championships (what were there, about 40-50 teams you had to beat out for that honor back in the day?).  D III football is much more competitive with over 250 teams.  The pre-Elliot days mean nothing as far as current D III success.  I just hope you all had your fun while it lasted, and I'll have to admit I was dissapointed that all we got from you all is some harsh words for your coach.  No criticism for Scharer or Josh "I swear I can catch" Vierra (who by the way was jawing at a Whitworth coach at one point in the game...speaking of classy)?  I remember you dragging your own players under the bus from that Willamette game like it was yesterday.  Pineconefan is a bigger man than I, and can no longer hold back (as I've been doing all season).  You lost...again...deal with it.  No wonder we can't get any Willamette posters back on this board.  Who would want to try and contribute to this board only to have a group of Linfield alums (who are obviously upset that they had to live in McMinville for 4-5 years) gang up on them?

[MonroviaCat]

My point exactly---why not elimiate 2 pool c candidates (oxy and redlands) by both of them losing next week.

true but my scenario also "elimates" two pool C candidates, Oxy with 2 losses, and Redlands as they move to pool A.

Oh, right---my bad