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buckj64...that last post made a great deal of sense, thank-you.

Just a friendly reminder

$%#@ing miracle mishap in the mud

[bbaddict]

Thanks, d-train -- appreciate it.

So, I guess I'm wondering if WU wins all their games & Occidental wins all of theirs, how do we know for sure that the game will be in Oregon?  I know the D3 poll ranks WU higher, but that doesn't have the same clout as the Selection Committee decisions, does it?

You're right, Foss.   If you check out the box score, it was in the last 8 minutes that WU took off.   Before that, Linfield kept looking like a comeback kid who could win it.  They are a good team that made some mistakes that WU took advantage of.  It was definitely not as one-sided of a game as the score suggests.   Linfield is a good football team, but WU beat them on Saturday because they played better.

[wukicker]

That doesn't surprise me...they promote bush type tactics over their because they are not used to winning and have become kind of immature and childish...

Right, Bluenote.  [sarcasm]I'm a bush league writer who's going to use my column space to rub this loss in all your faces for the next year.  Speckman's a bush type coach who encourages late hits and taunting.  Our players all cheat, our fans are all idiots, and Linfield is the Holy Grail of class.  Hell, I even steal wildcat11's sarcasm tags![/sarcasm]  I vote no on broad generalizations.

No...you're a loyal hack who is jumping on the bandwagon, nothing more. Take it to Salem for the Stagg Bowl and win..... and then you can flap your jaw.
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And you honestly wonder why most people only last on this board for just a short time, a few weeks at best? Why should BearcatPress put up with this kind of crap?  

As for fans - everyschool across the nation has @ssh*ole fans.  WU, Linfield, even Western Baptist (or Corban, or whatever they're called now).  After WU lost to Linfield at Maxwell field in '98 to ensure the streak, I watched a Linfield student scream at Speckman that he was a freak that should've been aborted.  I bring that up for one reason - EVERY team/school/institution has those few fans that are, well, sick.  I don't pretend to belive all of Linfield is like that, and I certainly know WU has a few as well.  Just frustrating when what is normally a pretty good board devolves based on a bunch of people that have NOTHING to do with the board, and have never posted on it.

Of course, anything I say will be discounted as being a "jump on the bandwagon" WU fan.  Sad.

[wildcat11]

Of course, anything I say will be discounted as being a "jump on the bandwagon" WU fan.  Sad.

Did you need a ladder to climb up on the bandwagon? 

[d-train]

Thanks, d-train -- appreciate it.

So, I guess I'm wondering if WU wins all their games & Occidental wins all of theirs, how do we know for sure that the game will be in Oregon?  I know the D3 poll ranks WU higher, but that doesn't have the same clout as the Selection Committee decisions, does it?

The first set of D-3 regional rankings will be released by the NCAA this week. We'll have to see how Willamette lines up with Oxy (and relative to UW-W and UW-SP will be interesting as well). That'll be your best gauge of how the selection folks will view things down the road.

The main reason I can't see Willamette having to play in CA is the strength of the Bearcats schedule. For example, that win over Concordia-Moorhead will look solid if they win the MIAC. Same goes for a strong finish by Cal Lu.

[bbaddict]

Yeah, and I guess it doesn't hurt that WU beat SOU who beat MHB, right?

[bbaddict]

So, who can tell me something about the Menlo team?  They only lost by 2 to Whitworth and they held Linfield to 3 field goals at Linfield.  Are they a better team than their W/L ratio indicates?

[wukicker]

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Did you need a ladder to climb up on the bandwagon? 


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**laughing** Nah, didn't need a ladder - wasn't much of a climb with only 4 WU posters on here so far.   

[d-train]

Yeah, and I guess it doesn't hurt that WU beat SOU who beat MHB, right?

They really aren't supposed to look at non D-3 games...but I don't totally buy that. If Linfield and Willamette can both beat SOU, UMHB shouldn't get a free pass.

Many folks think Whitworth's loss to Azusa last year hurt a lot. Linfield folks also feel that a loss to SOU cost them a spot in 2001.

[Bearcat Press]

Did you need a ladder to climb up on the bandwagon? 


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**laughing** Nah, didn't need a ladder - wasn't much of a climb with only 4 WU posters on here so far.   
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Five with bbaddict!  We're taking over!

[wukicker]

Yeah, and I guess it doesn't hurt that WU beat SOU who beat MHB, right?

They really aren't supposed to look at non D-3 games...but I don't totally buy that. If Linfield and Willamette can both beat SOU, UMHB shouldn't get a free pass.

Many folks think Whitworth's loss to Azusa last year hurt a lot. Linfield folks also feel that a loss to SOU cost them a spot in 2001.

I'd agree - it seems to me there are so few chances for any kind of direct comparison between teams like WU, Linfield and UMHB (at least in the current year), that the committee would want to consider non D-3 games.  Of course, you could easily say that they played at different points in the season so it isn't a fair measure.  Only thing I can say for certain is I'd hate to be on that committee.

[d-train]

Did you need a ladder to climb up on the bandwagon? 

**laughing** Nah, didn't need a ladder - wasn't much of a climb with only 4 WU posters on here so far.   
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Five with bbaddict!  We're taking over!
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There is one more Bearcat backer with a recent, single post over on the General Football -> Top 25 board. You've certainly got a lot more posters than PLU.

[usski]

[quI can pretty much guarantee that the Bearcats would play at McCulloch any day...

I was at the game on Saturday, and here are my thoughts:
1) Willamette's Offensive Line DOMINATED the game. Linfield's d-ends are great athletes, and great players. However, the combo of Jake Forshey and Joe Penkala at tackle effectively shut them down. I'm not too sure about this stat, but I heard something to the effect of each of the D-Ends getting 1 tackle each? Being able to minimize the D-ends had a huge impact on the game. The rest of the line also did a great job. The interior 3 played solid all game: few if any missed assignment. Very physical play by the front 5.
2) SPECIAL TEAMS! 'Nuff said. (Actually I lied, that's not enough said. I should point out that when Linfield was able to get a punt off, it was usually a fantastic kick. Kick offs were also the deepest that Willamette has had to field all year.)
3) Willamette's corner's and outside linebackers did a great job for the most part. VERY physical play.
4) Linfield's QB (you might have heard of him) was a monster. Like someone said- if the receivers were locked up, he let his legs do the work. When the Bearcats spied him, he would find the open receiver down field.
5) Coaching. Mark Speckman for President. Glen Fowles (O.C.) for Secretary of VP. Nate Naggi (D.C.) for Secretary of Defense (what else?)
6) Linfield's LBs were impressive.

All in all, a great game. The momentum that Linfield had at the half carried them most of the way through the third quarter. Had they been able to keep it... whew, it would have been close.

As far as the student section... really people? It's a few drunk college kids. Regardless of whether or not their mother's would have approved of what they said, it's a reality of college sports.



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FWGIS- Great insight- your parents should be proud

[criswyly]

Pat Coleman
Maybe if you up the applause meter to "two or more a day" maybe you'll get more posters checkin in.....It might be an interesting experiment.

[bluenote]

Because that goal isn't a realistic one for Linfield, you said it yourself.  The biggest problem is that the majority of Linfield posters (yourself included) don't just get upset, they get downright hostile.  While WC11 and GHC remain calm and optimistic towards the rest of the season.

A lot of you guys get all stressed out over little posts on a message board.....you guys need to chill out......like me.