FB: Northwest Conference

[Scots4]

Holy cow, I got quoted on the NW board.

Travel to Whitewater sometime and look at their facilities. It is no wonder why they are good every year. Not only do these facilities help with training, practice, etc., but it also helps bring in players. Having a lower tuition helps bring in players as well even though if you are highly desired, a private school will hand out "magical" funds, grants, and academic scholys that can counter this and make the price competitive. There are 2 D-2 schools in Illinois so the D-3's dont really have to compete with them. However, there are three FCS teams that scoop up the players to fill scholy's that maybe would have been planning to star at a D-3 school. Also, I know of 3 cases where the opposite happened. Players go to D-3 schools and then transfer bigger.

[BearcatFan]

Just an observation:
I know hindsight is 20/20 but, if WU had kicked field goals, they were within range, instead of turning the ball over on downs twice, they would have won by 3 points. Input anyone?

I had the same thought, R&P - but even if they had kicked & made one field goal and a PAT instead of failing on a two-point conversion attempt, and the rest of the game had played out exactly as it did, then all UWW would have to do is kick a field goal instead of killing the clock in the last 30 seconds of the 4th quarter to win the game.

What a great game, though!  After the first half, I think the entire contingent of WU fans were in shock. UWW really took the homefield advantage away with how well they played (and the huge number of UWW fans in the visitors section).

A Dream Season for WU nonetheless, 11-1 is a great record. Thanks to all the WU players and coaches for making football in Salem exciting this year!

[stealth]

OB. Well here you go again. Who cares. This is a football post board not a roge schalar metin aria    Thought you were over this last year, the year before, the year before, etc.   When your precious Oxy wears anything but the gum ball machine ring for winning the SCIAC, and then 1 maybe 2 and out in the playoffs this will always be your calling card.   (Admission standards versus winning football games.) Boring. Some strap it on to play the game some go to the library to study. We need them all and the love is equal. NWC posters pay attention to OB's response. He is the best at come backs.

Question, how do you keep coming up with such young good teams?
Inquiring minds want to know!

...Actually, good coaching, good recuiting, good facilities, good university support, good community support, can get it done IMO.

It also helps to be a public institution of 9,000+ undergrads...with no other levels between you and the big dogs in Madison.

Not to mention admissions standards which are the equivalent of an Army recruiting office. "Are you breathing? Can you sign your name? Yes, an X will do. OK, you're in."

OxyBob

[wildcat11]

He is the best at come backs.

Yes, and you proved last season that you are the best at trolling the SCIAC board and constantly providing your boy, DJ, mass amounts of mouth love. 

I'll take Bob's come backs and swipes at our kicking game over your act any day of the week. 

[Scots4]

Had this debate at the Monmouth-Wartburg game....

WILL-ah-MIT or Will-a-met?

[BearcatFan]

Had this debate at the Monmouth-Wartburg game....

WILL-ah-MIT or Will-a-met?

Will - a - mit (short A)

[Bearcat Press]

Had this debate at the Monmouth-Wartburg game....

WILL-ah-MIT or Will-a-met?

It's Willamette, dammit.

[Pat Coleman]

Had this debate at the Monmouth-Wartburg game....

WILL-ah-MIT or Will-a-met?

Basically, if you watched the selection show on ESPNews, pronounce it the way I said it and not the way the ESPN anchor said it.

[BearcatFan]

http://www.end-around.com/media/willamette.wav

[Scots4]

This is good news. I'm owed a 12-pack.

[OxyBob]

Question, how do you keep coming up with such young good teams?
Inquiring minds want to know!

...Actually, good coaching, good recuiting, good facilities, good university support, good community support, can get it done IMO.

It also helps to be a public institution of 9,000+ undergrads...with no other levels between you and the big dogs in Madison.

Not to mention admissions standards which are the equivalent of an Army recruiting office. "Are you breathing? Can you sign your name? Yes, an X will do. OK, you're in."

(Admission standards versus winning football games.) Boring. Some strap it on to play the game some go to the library to study.

The student population of Whitewater is 5+ times that of Willamette. 75% of the freshmen admitted to Willamette have GPAs over 3.50 (52% are over 3.75). By contrast 70% of the freshmen admitted to Whitewater have GPAs under 3.50 and of those *30%* have GPAs under 3.00. Repeat: Thirty frickin percent of Whitewater freshmen did not have a B average in high school. 76% of Willamette freshmen are in the top quarter of their high school class; 68% of Whitewater freshmen are not. I wonder how often Lance Leipold has to consult with an admissions officer to get a borderline player into Whitewater. Hmmm, let me take a guess -- never.

Compared with Willamette, Whitewater has a much bigger student body, virtually nonexistent admissions standards, and low cost in-state tuition. They can get any player that they want or any player who wants to go there or any player that they steal from another conference.

Whitewater's good at football? Big deal. Heck, they better be.

OxyBob

[RedandPurple]

 Good discussion about recruitment. One factor not mentioned is the "right fit for me" element. My son was recruited by a number of Universities and Colleges, like many other players, including Lewis and Clark and Willamette. He turned them all down including Wabash which by the way has FANTASTIC facilities including  a state of the art weight room, The University of San Diego, Coe College, and the Coast Guard Academy. After visiting several campuses he decided to go to Linfield because it was the "right fit" for him.

We arrived late in the evening during a extremely rainy night and were greeted by ALL the coaches and several players. Coach Powell kept in touch with us after we returned to Arizona. We left it up to our son to make the final decision because he was the  one who was  going to give 4 years of his life to the college. After he graduated he told me he didn't regret one minute of it. Linfield was the right place for him due to their football tradition, coaches, teachers, players, and student body.

Once a Wildcat always a Wildcat!

[wucatwu]

Good discussion about recruitment. One factor not mentioned is the "right fit for me" element. My son was recruited by a number of Universities and Colleges, like many other players, including Lewis and Clark and Willamette. He turned them all down including Wabash which by the way has FANTASTIC facilities including  a state of the art weight room, The University of San Diego, Coe College, and the Coast Guard Academy. After visiting several campuses he decided to go to Linfield because it was the "right fit" for him.

We arrived late in the evening during a extremely rainy night and were greeted by ALL the coaches and several players. Coach Powell kept in touch with us after we returned to Arizona. We left it up to our son to make the final decision because he was the  one who was  going to give 4 years of his life to the college. After he graduated he told me he didn't regret one minute of it. Linfield was the right place for him due to their football tradition, coaches, teachers, players, and student body.

Once a Wildcat always a Wildcat!

Definitely...this can be the deal maker/breaker.  Fit and feel tend to become the biggest factors when students are torn between schools.

[footballfan413]

Question, how do you keep coming up with such young good teams?
Inquiring minds want to know!

...Actually, good coaching, good recuiting, good facilities, good university support, good community support, can get it done IMO.

It also helps to be a public institution of 9,000+ undergrads...with no other levels between you and the big dogs in Madison.

Not to mention admissions standards which are the equivalent of an Army recruiting office. "Are you breathing? Can you sign your name? Yes, an X will do. OK, you're in."

(Admission standards versus winning football games.) Boring. Some strap it on to play the game some go to the library to study.

The student population of Whitewater is 5+ times that of Willamette. 75% of the freshmen admitted to Willamette have GPAs over 3.50 (52% are over 3.75). By contrast 70% of the freshmen admitted to Whitewater have GPAs under 3.50 and of those *30%* have GPAs under 3.00. Repeat: Thirty frickin percent of Whitewater freshmen did not have a B average in high school. 76% of Willamette freshmen are in the top quarter of their high school class; 68% of Whitewater freshmen are not. I wonder how often Lance Leipold has to consult with an admissions officer to get a borderline player into Whitewater. Hmmm, let me take a guess -- never.

Compared with Willamette, Whitewater has a much bigger student body, virtually nonexistent admissions standards, and low cost in-state tuition. They can get any player that they want or any player who wants to go there or any player that they steal from another conference.

Whitewater's good at football? Big deal. Heck, they better be.

OxyBob

Wow, how in the hell did Willamette compete with UWW so well?    They were at such a disadvantage. How did MUC put together such an amazing run the last 14 years?  Like I said on the WIAC board, I don't remember the complaints about the WIAC having all these unfair advantages until UWW started tearing it up a few years ago.  As WC11 pointed out, the WIAC's rep until then for well over a decade was pretty much a conference that was, "one and done," in the play-offs. The Hawks put together a very special run for a few years and now it is all about the playing field being unlevel! 
               

[stealth]

Wildcat11 trying to make sense. "You guys line up alphabetically by height." And, "You guys pair up in groups of three, then line up in a circle."

He is the best at come backs.

Yes, and you proved last season that you are the best at trolling the SCIAC board and constantly providing your boy, DJ, mass amounts of mouth love. 

I'll take Bob's come backs and swipes at our kicking game over your act any day of the week.