Top 25 talk

[mailsy]

Thanks for the update, Darryl! A nice way to start off the D3hoops morning.

I agree. +1 Darryl. 

[augie77]

This is a day late, but here's wishing everyone on this board the merriest of Christmases.

I'd like to apologize for my part in crossing a line in fair decorum with our Marietta booster.  I've been a long time follower of this board (seldom poster), but at some point I began piling on, unnecessarily.  We've made it clear what we thought of his tone, but wouldn't let it go.  That's on the rest of us.  I was going to give myself a spite, but it won't let me.  Somebody else should do this--please).

Here's hoping that all of us can confine ourselves to positive discussion.

Thanks, Pat, for reopening this page and for doing all you do as founder and guru of all D3boards!

[Gregory Sager]

Babson has not played any Midwest teams, so there is no way to compare them to a Midwest team based on any kind of reliable statistic.

Babson's taking on a fairly decent U of Chicago team on Saturday afternoon in the Ratner Center. I'm psyched about seeing this one in person.

[Greek Tragedy]

That seems like an interesting trip. That far for just one game...

[Gregory Sager]

C'mon, the old Tom wouldn't have thought twice about doing it!

(Of course, the old Tom was a carefree bachelor who didn't face any domestic consequences for hopping in a car and spending the better part of a day away from home in order to watch a game in which he had no rooting interest. )

[Pat Coleman]

That seems like an interesting trip. That far for just one game...

I believe I read on another board that there was an alum that funded this trip.

[Greek Tragedy]

C'mon, the old Tom wouldn't have thought twice about doing it!

(Of course, the old Tom was a carefree bachelor who didn't face any domestic consequences for hopping in a car and spending the better part of a day away from home in order to watch a game in which he had no rooting interest. )

You make a very good point. Ironically, my wife is trying to broker a deal to head to nearby Wausau (a half hour from Stevens Point) to visit the waterpark in exchange for the Pointer game against either NCC or Augustana! Not sure the hotel bill is worth the trip.

And, although seeing Babson would be nice, if I had a choice, I'd probably go over to Wisconsin Dells to see 4 games that involve 2 WIAC teams, and Lawrence and Central.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

That seems like an interesting trip. That far for just one game...

I believe I read on another board that there was an alum that funded this trip.

It was in an Around the Nation column!  Yes, there is a Chicago-based Babson alum who helps fund the trip as a way of exposing the team to the city.

[Titan Q]

That seems like an interesting trip. That far for just one game...

I believe I read on another board that there was an alum that funded this trip.

It was in an Around the Nation column!  Yes, there is a Chicago-based Babson alum who helps fund the trip as a way of exposing the team to the city.

Sounds like a great idea.  Look for the Illinois Wesleyan Titans to be playing games in Dallas somewhere down the road!

[Pat Coleman]

That seems like an interesting trip. That far for just one game...

I believe I read on another board that there was an alum that funded this trip.

It was in an Around the Nation column!  Yes, there is a Chicago-based Babson alum who helps fund the trip as a way of exposing the team to the city.

That! Yes.

[John Gleich]

C'mon, the old Tom wouldn't have thought twice about doing it!

(Of course, the old Tom was a carefree bachelor who didn't face any domestic consequences for hopping in a car and spending the better part of a day away from home in order to watch a game in which he had no rooting interest. )

You make a very good point. Ironically, my wife is trying to broker a deal to head to nearby Wausau (a half hour from Stevens Point) to visit the waterpark in exchange for the Pointer game against either NCC or Augustana! Not sure the hotel bill is worth the trip.

And, although seeing Babson would be nice, if I had a choice, I'd probably go over to Wisconsin Dells to see 4 games that involve 2 WIAC teams, and Lawrence and Central.

For what it's worth, that water park is pretty fun. 'Course we had a Groupon, such helped.

[Greek Tragedy]

We've been up there several times. I'll have to see if I can find a current groupon too!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Phew! I get tied up with football and travel, not to mention Christmas and trying to spend time with the family, and I don't stay caught up... my mistake. Wow. That took longer than it should have. LOL

In Vegas and REALLY looking forward to seeing Salisbury, Ramapo, Hardin-Simmons (or is it Mary Hardin-Simmons?) on the men's side (along with the others). Should be some good games, I hope.

I have thought long and hard about the Top 25 in the last few weeks... these holiday tournaments have not made it any easier. I am just not sure any team truly is the best or the Top 25... I think you could make easy arguments fro 50 or so teams to be on the poll. We have gotten to a point in Division III where it is really difficult to truly gauge teams on the men's side. That is not a bad thing at all. We have parity and a lot of teams are good which makes all games fun and not predictable. However, it does make you wonder if a voter like myself has to change with the times. I think I have to some degree. Twice in the last year I have not removed my number one vote after a loss. Multiple times I have not moved a team downward for a loss. Many, many times I have not moved lower teams down for losses to higher teams and sometimes even moved teams up after losses. The Top2 5 is FAR more fluid than it has been in a long, long time (and nearly like a flood-ravaged river compared to the women's poll) and that makes it not only fun for fans of Division III, but a serious exercise in due diligence for voters. The next poll is going to be very, very interesting.

[Ralph Turner]

Phew! I get tied up with football and travel, not to mention Christmas and trying to spend time with the family, and I don't stay caught up... my mistake. Wow. That took longer than it should have. LOL

In Vegas and REALLY looking forward to seeing Salisbury, Ramapo, Hardin-Simmons (or is it Mary Hardin-Simmons?) on the men's side (along with the others). Should be some good games, I hope.

I have thought long and hard about the Top 25 in the last few weeks... these holiday tournaments have not made it any easier. I am just not sure any team truly is the best or the Top 25... I think you could make easy arguments fro 50 or so teams to be on the poll. We have gotten to a point in Division III where it is really difficult to truly gauge teams on the men's side. That is not a bad thing at all. We have parity and a lot of teams are good which makes all games fun and not predictable. However, it does make you wonder if a voter like myself has to change with the times. I think I have to some degree. Twice in the last year I have not removed my number one vote after a loss. Multiple times I have not moved a team downward for a loss. Many, many times I have not moved lower teams down for losses to higher teams and sometimes even moved teams up after losses. The Top2 5 is FAR more fluid than it has been in a long, long time (and nearly like a flood-ravaged river compared to the women's poll) and that makes it not only fun for fans of Division III, but a serious exercise in due diligence for voters. The next poll is going to be very, very interesting.

John Gresham Hardin became a major benefactor to cash strapped Texas colleges in the Depression including 3 in D3, Hardin-Simmons University, Howard Payne and UMHB.
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fha62

[Mr. Ypsi]

Previously unbeaten and #5 Salisbury falls to still unbeaten but not yet ranked Ramapo, 66-65.  The two teams combined for enough bricks for Trump to build his wall - 84 rebounds is a ton of missed shots.  With both teams coming in undefeated, I'd assume great defense, except that both teams shot UNDER 50% from the charity stripe!  Unless the zebras decided to allow defense on FTs, it appears that both teams were severely offensively impaired tonite (or maybe just severely offensive ).