Top 25 talk

[4samuy]

Since Massey gets talked about so much in this room, I thought I'd run a comparison of today's d3hoops.com Top 25 with their corresponding Massey ratings:

#	School (1st votes)	W-L	Pts	Prev	Massey
1	Babson (15)	10-1	610	1	5
2	Whitman (9)	11-0	603	2	2
3	Amherst (1)	9-1	576	3	19
4	Rochester	11-0	507	6	14
5	Whitworth	10-1	497	8	7
6	Christopher Newport	9-2	463	9	13
7	UW-Eau Claire	10-1	443	11	8
8	Tufts	8-2	393	10	53
9	Wesleyan	11-0	386	22	6
10	North Park	9-1	342	13	10
11	UW-Whitewater	11-0	336	16	3
12	St. Norbert	7-2	333	7	22
13	Marietta	8-3	325	4	16
14	Susquehanna	9-1	295	14	27
15	Salisbury	9-2	230	5	23
16	Benedictine	8-3	222	12	18
17	UW-River Falls	10-1	186	22	4
18	Swarthmore	9-0	184	21	47
19	Ramapo	11-0	167	--	12
20	Neumann	9-0	166	23	1
21	Denison	8-1	110	24	43
22	Middlebury	9-1	106	--	17
23	New Jersey City	11-1	103	--	42
24	Washington (MO)	8-3	88	24	21
25	Williams	10-1	74	--	9

Nicely done!   Love the comparison.

[y_jack_lok]

^^^ There are 20 teams that appear in the top 25 of both Massey and D3hoops. The five that D3hoops has in that Massey doesn't are: Tufts, Susquehannah, Swarthmore, Denison, and NJC. What are the 5 in the Massey top 25 that aren't in the D3hoops top 25?

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

^^^ There are 20 teams that appear in the top 25 of both Massey and D3hoops. The five that D3hoops has in that Massey doesn't are: Tufts, Susquehannah, Swarthmore, Denison, and NJC. What are the 5 in the Massey top 25 that aren't in the D3hoops top 25?

Bethel (11th Massey, 35th D3h), Illinois Wesleyan (15th M, 26th D3h), Augustana (20th M, NR D3h), C-M-S (24th M, 33rd D3h), Wartburg (25th M, T27th D3h)

[jaybird44]

Everyone...

Relax.

Find your happy places.

Take a deep cleansing breath.

Meditate.

Far too early in the new year for this outbreak of angst...

[y_jack_lok]

^^^ There are 20 teams that appear in the top 25 of both Massey and D3hoops. The five that D3hoops has in that Massey doesn't are: Tufts, Susquehannah, Swarthmore, Denison, and NJC. What are the 5 in the Massey top 25 that aren't in the D3hoops top 25?

Bethel (11th Massey, 35th D3h), Illinois Wesleyan (15th M, 26th D3h), Augustana (20th M, NR D3h), C-M-S (24th M, 33rd D3h), Wartburg (25th M, T27th D3h)

Thanks.

[sac]

He's referencing inside jokes that are recent on this board -- I don't think he was actually making excuses for the loss.

Perhaps the lighting and backdrop in here are bad.   Multi-million dollar budget, that's TGHIJGSTO!!!

[Darryl Nester]

Perhaps the lighting and backdrop in here are bad.   Multi-million dollar budget, that's TGHIJGSTO!!!

Come on, sac. Don't undervalue D3 hoops.

yes i dcid, this is a multi billionh dollar year indudtry, ... if you cant see it, you need glasses

(I also thought that I should demystify that inside joke for newer readers ... although "demystifying" might not be the actual effect of reading messages that era of this board.)

[nescac1]

Based on the Massey comparison, I've concluded that D3hoops has a major anti-Pennsylvania bias, because Neumann. Also, a major pro-Pennsylvania bias, because Swarthmore.  Or maybe it's just a pro-Quaker bias ...

[mailsy]

Based on the Massey comparison, I've concluded that D3hoops has a major anti-Pennsylvania bias, because Neumann. Also, a major pro-Pennsylvania bias, because Swarthmore.  Or maybe it's just a pro-Quaker bias ...

I knew it! NEUMANN!!! 

[HOPEful]

[Gregory Sager]

Based on the Massey comparison, I've concluded that D3hoops has a major anti-Pennsylvania bias, because Neumann. Also, a major pro-Pennsylvania bias, because Swarthmore.  Or maybe it's just a pro-Quaker bias ...

I'm looking for Earlham and George Fox to skyrocket in the next poll.

[KnightSlappy]

I've taken the pleasure of adding my efficiency rankings as well.
http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-efficiency-ratings/

I'm only including games through Sunday below but the up-to-date numbers are available at the site.

Since Massey gets talked about so much in this room, I thought I'd run a comparison of today's d3hoops.com Top 25 with their corresponding Massey ratings:

#	School (1st votes)	W-L	Pts	Prev	Massey	KS Efficiency
1	Babson (15)	10-1	610	1	5	2
2	Whitman (9)	11-0	603	2	2	6
3	Amherst (1)	9-1	576	3	19	7
4	Rochester	11-0	507	6	14	18
5	Whitworth	10-1	497	8	7	19
6	Christopher Newport	9-2	463	9	13	4
7	UW-Eau Claire	10-1	443	11	8	9
8	Tufts	8-2	393	10	53	61
9	Wesleyan	11-0	386	22	6	14
10	North Park	9-1	342	13	10	27
11	UW-Whitewater	11-0	336	16	3	16
12	St. Norbert	7-2	333	7	22	5
13	Marietta	8-3	325	4	16	3
14	Susquehanna	9-1	295	14	27	46
15	Salisbury	9-2	230	5	23	13
16	Benedictine	8-3	222	12	18	20
17	UW-River Falls	10-1	186	22	4	8
18	Swarthmore	9-0	184	21	47	56
19	Ramapo	11-0	167	--	12	15
20	Neumann	9-0	166	23	1	1
21	Denison	8-1	110	24	43	90
22	Middlebury	9-1	106	--	17	22
23	New Jersey City	11-1	103	--	42	52
24	Washington (MO)	8-3	88	24	21	34
25	Williams	10-1	74	--	9	23

[PeterEscobar]

Amherst gets it handed to them by a very avg Eastern Conneticut squad 87-75

As Wesleyan falls to RIC, who despite having Dominique Bull (formerly of Mizzu & a summer semester at GWU) are coming off a 30+ point loss to MIT.

Wonder if the two NESCAC teams were overlooking their Tuesday game for the first weekend of conference play.

Or maybe it was the lighting/officiating/shooting back drops

Come on Peterescobar, really, shooting background, referees, lighting?  Please tell me you're not serious. I noticed the emoji and am hoping your comment was a joke. The final score didn't reflect how bad Amherst was beaten.  How bout Amherst is overrated.  I think the Massey ratings are a much better gauge as where Amherst should be rated at #19.

Please see below:

He's referencing inside jokes that are recent on this board -- I don't think he was actually making excuses for the loss.

I was 100000% joking...

All that being said, pretty impressive that Babson is ranked in top 5 in both Massey KS Eff. Ratings, Bennett Rank & D3hoops. Chronically overrated team, tho 

Neumann is only other team in top 5 in both Massey & KS eff. rating.

[Gregory Sager]

[sac]

Seriopus question

Is Neumann going to be challenged between now and selection Sunday?