Top 25 talk

[HOPEful]

Not sure you can accuse one single vote going to a team as then a problem with integrity.

Integrity of the process, not the person.

Sorry all. Clearly this has already gotten blown out of proportion. I just think it would be nice to know who the voters are and who they each voted for. Better yet, a quick weekly rationale like Dave does would be ideal 

[Greek Tragedy]

Ok. So you find out who the voter was that gave them a 25th place single vote...then what? Are you going to personally critize that person?  Really though, it's not like that single voter voted Albertus Magnus #1. Their only 2 nc losses were to 2 opponents that are currently ranked #1 and #20. Voting them 25th is a reach, for sure, but not completely out of the question, IMO.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Not sure you can accuse one single vote going to a team as then a problem with integrity.

Integrity of the process, not the person.

Sorry all. Clearly this has already gotten blown out of proportion. I just think it would be nice to know who the voters are and who they each voted for. Better yet, a quick weekly rationale like Dave does would be ideal 

Ok. So you find out who the voter was that gave them a 25th place single vote...then what? Are you going to personally critize that person?  Really though, it's not like that single voter voted Albertus Magnus #1. Their only 2 nc losses were to 2 opponents that are currently ranked #1 and #20. Voting them 25th is a reach, for sure, but not completely out of the question, IMO.

Yeah... that is the key here... you aren't going to get a list of voters from us for two reasons.
- The first, we don't want those voters "lobbied" by others to vote for teams or in a certain way. It happens everywhere. I remember laughing when I was a senior sports producer in my local TV life and getting plenty of mail enticing me or my boss to vote for so-and-so for the Heisman. I didn't have a vote, by the way... not even sure he did.
- The second reason is what Greek Tragedy alluded to... now people can pinpoint voters and go after them for how they did vote... or perceived to have voted. This isn't the Baseball Hall of Fame where the voting has become a political, hot-button issue and writers have chosen to stand on certain issues and brag about how they voted (or didn't vote). We don't need our voters to feel pressure or retaliation for how they vote.

I have put my vote out there. Why? Mainly because I am talking about it on Hoopsville and found that it is difficult to discuss the Top 25 without revealing how I voted. So I show people my ballot (most weeks when I have time). I was inspired a bit by Keith McMillian at D3football (who used to show his 26-50 group; don't ask, I won't do that) and I have enjoyed the process and such. But that is my choice. No other voter should be subject to releasing their names or their votes. Especially those like the coaches we have to face pressure or criticism from their colleagues in and out of their conferences.

I know HOPEful has stated this has gotten blown out of proportion and I don't think we need to belabor it, but I did feel I needed to say something about the idea of releasing names and votes. I will point out there aren't that many Top 25 Anythings where you know who is voting and how.

[sac]

Ok. So you find out who the voter was that gave them a 25th place single vote...then what? Are you going to personally critize that person?  Really though, it's not like that single voter voted Albertus Magnus #1. Their only 2 nc losses were to 2 opponents that are currently ranked #1 and #20. Voting them 25th is a reach, for sure, but not completely out of the question, IMO.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

All of the sudden the month of January is coming to a close! It wasn't that long ago we were watching how teams would perform during holiday tournaments and after long breaks. Now, we are wondering how most teams will weather the second half of conference play.

Thursday night on Hoopsville, Dave tries to take the temperature of Division III basketball. Just how good are the teams nationally ranked and near the top of some conference? Are there teams lurking who are about to emerge and disrupt things?

Of course the focus on this show will primarily be the East, Mid-Atlantic, Great Lakes, and West Regions, but there is still plenty to talk about nationwide including the common theme: upsets and parity.

Guests will include a coach who won his 400th on Wednesday, three nationally ranked teams, and seven total losses.

Dave also discusses the recently launch Hoopsville Fundraising efforts and the upcoming annual marathon show. For more information on the fundraiser, click here: https://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser-2017

Tune in starting at 7:00 PM LIVE via this link: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2016-17/jan26 (or the Facebook Live simulcast). If you can't make it live, watch the show On Demand to listen (download) the podcast to the right (available after the show concludes).

Don't forget to contribute to the new "Hoopsville Mailbag" segment. Email questions you may have to hoopsville@d3hoops.com. Dave will answer them tonight or on a future show.

Guests scheduled to appear (in order of appearance):
- Frank Marcinek, No. 11 Susquehanna men's coach
- Luke Flockerzi, No. 7 Rochester men's coach
- Don Mulhern, UW-Superior women's coach
- Michele Durand, No. 8 Ohio Northern women's coach

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[4samuy]

Dave,

Another fabulous show.  Can you give me the link to the fund raising site.  Thanks!
Disregard.  I see the link.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Dave,

Another fabulous show.  Can you give me the link to the fund raising site.  Thanks!
Disregard.  I see the link.

Thank you. I appreciate the kind comments.

[irapthor]

Not sure you can accuse one single vote going to a team as then a problem with integrity.

Integrity of the process, not the person.

Sorry all. Clearly this has already gotten blown out of proportion. I just think it would be nice to know who the voters are and who they each voted for. Better yet, a quick weekly rationale like Dave does would be ideal 

A quick weekly rationale is not as quick as you may think...what Dave writes is very time-consuming.

FWIW, I spend 30-45 min. each week doing my ballot. It's never been a responsibility I take lightly. I'm wrong sometimes and may put more stock into a team than they deserve, which is what makes it subjective. But I'd like to think after all these years that I sorta know what I'm talking about and am right a lot more than I am wrong.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	613	Babson	18-1	def. Clark, 90-81; def. Emerson, 78-42
#2	610	Whitman	19-0	won at #6 Whitworth, 91-75; def. Willamette, 100-59
#3	555	Christopher Newport	17-2	def. #12 Salisbury, 55-53; def. Penn State-Harrisburg, 75-47
#4	531	Tufts	16-3	def. Newbury, 113-74; LOST at Bates, 72-84
#5	524	UW-River Falls	18-1	def. UW-Stout, 70-58; won at UW-Stevens Point, 67-51
#6	489	Whitworth	16-3	LOST to #2 Whitman, 75-91; def. Willamette, 77-55
#7	457	Rochester	17-1	def. New York University, 96-71; def. Brandeis, 67-56
#8	423	Washington U.	15-3	won at Carnegie Mellon, 70-47; won at Case Western Reserve, 88-77
#9	420	Denison	17-2	def. Oberlin, 89-73; LOST to Wittenberg, 70-71
#10	373	Ramapo	19-1	won at York (N.Y.), 97-63; def. Montclair State, 80-68; won at Kean, 82-62
#11	323	Susquehanna	16-3	won at Catholic, 89-83; LOST at Moravian, 77-80
#12	300	Salisbury	15-4	LOST at #3 Christopher Newport, 53-55; def. Mary Washington, 67-63
#13	296	St. Norbert	14-3	won at Lawrence, 77-57; def. Cornell, 67-57
#14	282	Amherst	14-4	def. Williams, 72-64; def. Trinity (Conn.), 66-53
#15	250	Marietta	15-4	def. Otterbein, 94-75; def. Baldwin Wallace, 100-91
#16	240	Augustana	15-4	def. Elmhurst, 87-76; LOST at Carthage, 70-74 OT
#17	187	UW-Eau Claire	14-5	def. UW-Platteville, 83-58; LOST at UW-Oshkosh, 66-79
#18	181	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	15-1	def. La Verne, 90-81; won at Pomona-Pitzer, 73-67
#19	177	Benedictine	15-4	def. Milwaukee Engineering, 87-74; won at Rockford, 106-76; won at Lakeland, 85-65
#20	148	New Jersey City	16-4	def. William Paterson, 70-60; LOST at TCNJ, 69-75
#21	144	Neumann	18-1	won at Keystone, 99-76; def. Gwynedd Mercy, 92-77
#22	142	Middlebury	15-3	def. Lyndon State, 100-90; def. Hamilton, 115-82
#23	117	North Park	15-4	def. Illinois Wesleyan, 96-86; won at Elmhurst, 70-62
#24	101	UW-Whitewater	16-3	def. UW-Stevens Point, 80-74; won at UW-La Crosse, 67-62
#25	53	Wesleyan	16-4	won at Connecticut College, 85-75

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	37	Swarthmore	15-4	won at Washington College, 84-61; LOST to Gettysburg, 65-76
#27	36	Lycoming	16-4	LOST to Messiah, 80-91; LOST to Widener, 70-72
#28	29	Hope	15-4	won at Calvin, 87-67; def. Albion, 82-70
#29	24	Hardin-Simmons	15-5	won at Mary Hardin-Baylor, 120-112 2OT; LOST at Concordia (Texas), 89-95
#30	15	Eastern Connecticut	14-6	LOST at Keene State, 92-99; def. Rhode Island College, 86-62
T#31	11	Guilford	16-3	won at Lynchburg, 72-60; def. Virginia Wesleyan, 83-66
T#31	11	Hanover	15-3	LOST to Rose-Hulman, 68-73; def. Defiance, 77-60
T#33	8	Brockport	15-5	def. Fredonia, 97-61; LOST at Oswego State, 75-78; LOST at Cortland, 70-77
T#33	8	Ripon	14-3	def. Beloit, 70-58; def. Illinois College, 86-73
T#33	8	St. Lawrence	16-3	LOST at Skidmore, 66-83; def. RPI, 88-81; def. Union, 90-85
T#36	1	Albertus Magnus	14-4	def. Rivier, 93-76; LOST at St. Joseph's (Maine), 90-95
T#36	1	Randolph-Macon	14-5	won at Virginia Wesleyan, 76-57; def. Washington and Lee, 65-57

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Believe it or not... there is just one more month remaining in Division III basketball's regular season. In other words, time is running out for teams looking to play in March. One month from today, most conference champions will be crowned and the conversation will be who may be in and will be out of the NCAA championship tournament.

So as the season head's for the home stretch, what programs will we be talking about in a month? Who may emerge from some tight conferences races to prove they are the best?

Sunday night on Hoopsville, Dave hopes to turn the spotlight on a few programs others may not be paying attention to as much. Tufts' men's program is seperating themselves from the rest of the NESCAC, Elmhurst women are making the CCIW race more interesting than expected, LeTourneau men have turned their program around and now lead their ASC division, and Montclair State women have a battle on their hands in the NJAC.

Also on Sunday night, we head to the WBCA Center Court and talk to one of the up and coming women's basketball coaches. Already honored for his success at a young age, what has Alex Richay done to turn the Oglethorpe program around?

Dave will also preview the upcoming annual Hoopsville Marathon and give an update to this season's fundraising efforts.

Tune in starting at 7:00 PM ET to watch the show live here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2016-17/jan29 (or via Facebook Live). If you miss any of it, you can watch the show On Demand or listen (download) the podcast.

Don't forget to contribute to the new "Hoopsville Mailbag" segment. Email questions you may have to hoopsville@d3hoops.com. Dave will answer them tonight or on a future show.

Guests schedule (in order of appearance):
- Bob Sheldon, No. 4 Tufts men's coach
- Tethanie Carriollo, Elmhurst women's coach
- Alex Richay, Oglethorpe women's coach (WBCA Center Court)
- Dan Miller, LeTourneau men's coach
- Karin Harvey, No. 18 Montclair State women's coach

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[gordonmann]

Guess we won't have to worry about Albertus Magnus in this week's poll, eh HOPEful?

[Smitty Oom]

Is it just me or has the Others Receiving Votes teams this year been quite bad week in and week out? Now this could be a common thing I am just picking up now, just curious.

[Pat Coleman]

Is it just me or has the Others Receiving Votes teams this year been quite bad week in and week out? Now this could be a common thing I am just picking up now, just curious.

You might need to cite any specific examples.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Is it just me or has the Others Receiving Votes teams this year been quite bad week in and week out? Now this could be a common thing I am just picking up now, just curious.

You might need to cite any specific examples.

I don't know if he is referencing any specific results, but I feel the same 'vibe'.  After following the Top 25 for many years, it seems the ORV's are getting beaten up more than usual.  Parity?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Is it just me or has the Others Receiving Votes teams this year been quite bad week in and week out? Now this could be a common thing I am just picking up now, just curious.

You might need to cite any specific examples.

I don't know if he is referencing any specific results, but I feel the same 'vibe'.  After following the Top 25 for many years, it seems the ORV's are getting beaten up more than usual.  Parity?

Yeah - I think parity. There are a ton of teams to consider and everyone is taking losses this season. Until the last week or two, there were double-digit losses in the Top 25 alone. If there are that many losses in the Top 25, the ORV is going to be the same if not worse.