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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

By this point in most seasons, the usual names appear at the top of conferences races and conversations surround the usual suspects. Not the case this year. There are new names at the top, or in the mix, of conferences around the country.

That excitement is what is driving the 2017-18 season and makes any night in Division III must-watch.

On Sunday's episode of Hoopsville, Dave talks to some new face leading or in the mix in their respective conferences from four or the regions around the country. Can these teams keep their success through the end of the season or has the challenge just gotten that much more difficult as the second half of conference schedules begins.

There is also some Top 25 discussion to be had. Ryan Scott makes his weekly appearance in "Top 25 Double-take."

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Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1625Whitman17-0won at Linfield, 82-78; won at Willamette, 75-59
#2555UW-Whitewater14-3LOST to UW-Stevens Point, 69-75; won at UW-La Crosse, 67-64 OT
#3541Washington U.14-2won at Case Western Reserve, 100-64; won at Carnegie Mellon, 104-70
#4519York (Pa.)16-1won at St. Mary's (Md.), 88-74; LOST at Mary Washington, 57-59
#5497Wittenberg17-0def. #23 Ohio Wesleyan, 93-72; won at Allegheny, 87-58
#6444UW-Oshkosh13-4LOST at #29 UW-Platteville, 57-72; LOST at UW-Eau Claire, 57-60
#7440Whitworth15-2won at Willamette, 67-65; won at Linfield, 63-55
#8434Augustana14-3won at Elmhurst, 90-80; won at North Park, 74-60
#9415MIT15-2LOST to Springfield, 65-68; won at Babson, 80-78 OT
#10371Lycoming17-1def. Hood, 106-100 OT
#11357Williams13-4def. Amherst, 72-69; LOST at #16 Middlebury, 66-70
#12347St. John's14-1def. Macalester, 133-80; def. St. Thomas, 77-62
#13346UW-River Falls12-4LOST at UW-La Crosse, 54-62; def. UW-Stout, 96-68
#14331Hamilton15-1def. SUNY Geneseo, 74-70; LOST at Amherst, 49-75
#15295Swarthmore15-2won at Haverford, 65-60 OT; def. Dickinson, 82-74
#16268Middlebury14-3def. Albertus Magnus, 77-73 OT; def. #11 Williams, 70-66; won at Pine Manor, 87-62
#17212Emory14-2won at New York University, 73-68; won at Brandeis, 90-57
#18189Marietta13-4def. Capital, 82-68; LOST at #20 John Carroll, 77-99
#19176Wesleyan13-3won at Johnson and Wales, 69-45; def. Connecticut College, 89-51
#20121John Carroll14-3LOST at T#37 Baldwin Wallace, 79-88; def. #18 Marietta, 99-77
#21106Franklin and Marshall14-3LOST at Dickinson, 50-55; won at Haverford, 79-68
#22104Eastern Connecticut15-2won at #39 Keene State, 70-64; def. Rhode Island College, 61-49
#2384Ohio Wesleyan12-5LOST at #5 Wittenberg, 72-93; won at DePauw, 77-72
#2466Illinois Wesleyan14-3def. Millikin, 78-62; won at Carroll, 82-70
#2541Rochester13-3won at Brandeis, 75-66; won at New York University, 87-82


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2638Emory and Henry16-1def. Lynchburg, 102-81; def. T#41 Randolph-Macon, 75-65
#2733Nichols14-2won at Eastern Nazarene, 79-76; def. Roger Williams, 82-79
#2831Tufts12-5LOST to Bates, 75-77
#2928UW-Platteville14-3def. #6 UW-Oshkosh, 72-57; LOST at UW-Stevens Point, 74-80
#3018New Jersey City14-3def. Rutgers-Newark, 80-68; def. Rutgers-Camden, 76-54
#3115Wartburg12-5def. Buena Vista, 85-65; LOST at Nebraska Wesleyan, 60-99
#3213Adrian13-4LOST to Olivet, 62-65; LOST at Alma, 66-73
T#3311Ramapo14-4won at William Paterson, 73-61; def. Stockton, 89-60
T#3311Salem State15-3won at Bates, 83-81; def. Bridgewater State, 85-79; def. Westfield State, 107-85
#359Juniata14-3LOST at Susquehanna, 68-70; def. Moravian, 76-65
#367Cabrini14-2def. Neumann, 105-76; won at Marywood, 87-76
T#375Baldwin Wallace14-3def. #20 John Carroll, 88-79; def. Muskingum, 99-70
T#375Hanover13-4won at Mount St. Joseph, 64-41; def. Franklin, 74-65
#394Keene State12-5LOST to #22 Eastern Connecticut, 64-70; won at Mass-Boston, 82-76
#403Bethel12-4LOST at St. Thomas, 78-81; won at Carleton, 68-57
T#412Loras14-4def. Central, 109-92; won at Luther, 85-38
T#412Occidental14-2won at Chapman, 70-60; won at Redlands, 67-62
T#412Randolph-Macon13-4def. Hampden-Sydney, 81-50; LOST at #26 Emory and Henry, 65-75
T#412Wheaton (Ill.)13-4won at Carthage, 90-81; def. Illinois Tech, 76-55
T#451North Central (Ill.)12-5def. Finlandia, 102-50; LOST at Elmhurst, 77-91
T#451Wooster13-4won at Kenyon, 75-55; won at Wabash, 80-72

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Thank you, Darryl. Helpful as always, especially for me on air.
Host of Hoopsville. USBWA Executive Board member. Broadcast Director for D3sports.com. Broadcaster for NCAA.com & several colleges. PA Announcer for Gophers & Brigade. Follow me on Twitter: @davemchugh or @d3hoopsville.

Darryl Nester

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 21, 2018, 04:55:06 PM
Thank you, Darryl. Helpful as always, especially for me on air.
Happy to help, Dave.

Fifth and Putnam

I'll be glad to take a shot at the Great Lakes as well. Probably will get around to it tomorrow. Just need to carve out some time.

Knightstalker

I took a stab at the Atlantic Region.  I used the criteria Titan Q specified and listed what I feel were the three best wins for each team.  I added up the rankings and divided by three if listed in the D3 poll or 2 if only listed in Massey and KS polls.  I am not a numbers person and this was the best I could come up with.

1.   Gwynedd Mercy vs Cabrini, at Rosemont, vs Neumann
2.   Ramapo              vs MSU, at Stockton, vs NJCU
3.   Cabrini                vs Eastern CT, at Rosemont, vs Nuemann
4.   NJCU                   vs Stevens Tech, vs Gwynedd Mercy, at Albertus Magnus
5.   Nuemann            vs Eastern, vs Rosemont, vs Marywood
6.   TCNJ                    at Rowan, vs Ramapo, at Montclair
7.   DeSales               at Rosemont, vs Wilkes, vs Catholic
8.   Montclair              at Eastern CT, at NJCU, vs Stockton
9.   Lehman               vs Mt. St. Vincent, vs Southern Vermont, at Staten Island
10. Stockton              vs William Paterson, at Linfield, vs Rowan

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

Titan Q

Quote from: Knightstalker on January 21, 2018, 06:49:36 PM
I took a stab at the Atlantic Region.  I used the criteria Titan Q specified and listed what I feel were the three best wins for each team.  I added up the rankings and divided by three if listed in the D3 poll or 2 if only listed in Massey and KS polls.  I am not a numbers person and this was the best I could come up with.

1.   Gwynedd Mercy vs Cabrini, at Rosemont, vs Neumann
2.   Ramapo              vs MSU, at Stockton, vs NJCU
3.   Cabrini                vs Eastern CT, at Rosemont, vs Nuemann
4.   NJCU                   vs Stevens Tech, vs Gwynedd Mercy, at Albertus Magnus
5.   Nuemann            vs Eastern, vs Rosemont, vs Marywood
6.   TCNJ                    at Rowan, vs Ramapo, at Montclair
7.   DeSales               at Rosemont, vs Wilkes, vs Catholic
8.   Montclair              at Eastern CT, at NJCU, vs Stockton
9.   Lehman               vs Mt. St. Vincent, vs Southern Vermont, at Staten Island
10. Stockton              vs William Paterson, at Linfield, vs Rowan

Thanks, Knighstalker!  Really appreciate it.

On those best wins, can you filter out the ones that are not one of the following: 1) current D3hoops.com Top 25 + ORV, 2) current Massey top 25, 3) current Knightslappy efficiency top 25.  Just making sure we keep it consistent.  Thanks again!

ronk

#11542
Mid-Atlantic rankings

1. York(PA) (16-1, 9-1 CAC)  Swarthmore, Middlebury(N), CNU, split with the holder of The Belt(UMW)
2. Swarthmore (15-2, 9-1  CC) @ Middlebury
3. F&M (14-3, 8-2 CC) Swarthmore
4. Lycoming (17-1, 8-1 MACC)
5. Johns Hopkins (13-4, 7-3 CC) New Jersey City(N)
6. Drew (13-4, 6-0 LAND) Juniata
7. Juniata (14-3, 3-3 LAND)
The current holder of The Belt
8. Mary Washington (12-5, 6-4 CAC) York(PA) 

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Finished my Top 25 ballot a little bit ago.  This was actually the easiest one so far.  It took a lot of work to get teams slotted in where I wanted them, but it feels like we've got enough results now to feel confident in where teams ended up.  Losses will still change things moving forward, but it feels like we've reached a point where I don't have to start from scratch every week. Definitely the latest in the year I've gotten to that point since I've been voting.

To go by region, on my ballot:

NE - 5 (and the last 1-2 were begrudgingly); E and A - 0; MA - 3; S - 3; GL - 2; C - 9; W - 3
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Titan Q

Quote from: ronk on January 21, 2018, 07:20:55 PM
Mid-Atlantic rankings

1. York(PA) (16-1, 9-1 CAC)  Swarthmore, Middlebury(N), CNU, split with the holder of The Belt(UMW)
2. Swarthmore (15-2, 9-1  CC) @ Middlebury
3. F&M (14-3, 8-2 CC) Swarthmore
4. Lycoming (17-1, 8-1 MACC)
5. Johns Hopkins (13-4, 7-3 CC) New Jersey City(N)
6. Drew (13-4, 6-0 LAND) Juniata
7. Juniata (14-3, 3-3 LAND)
The current holder of The Belt
8. Mary Washington (12-5, 6-4 CAC) York(PA)

Thanks, Ronk!

me

So I'm not seeing a lot of anything regarding top 25 in this. These look a lot more like regional rankings to me. Surely no one thinks Lehman is top 25.

Knightstalker

Quote from: Titan Q on January 21, 2018, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on January 21, 2018, 06:49:36 PM
I took a stab at the Atlantic Region.  I used the criteria Titan Q specified and listed what I feel were the three best wins for each team.  I added up the rankings and divided by three if listed in the D3 poll or 2 if only listed in Massey and KS polls.  I am not a numbers person and this was the best I could come up with.

1.   Gwynedd Mercy vs Cabrini, at Rosemont, vs Neumann
2.   Ramapo              vs MSU, at Stockton, vs NJCU
3.   Cabrini                vs Eastern CT, at Rosemont, vs Nuemann
4.   NJCU                   vs Stevens Tech, vs Gwynedd Mercy, at Albertus Magnus
5.   Nuemann            vs Eastern, vs Rosemont, vs Marywood
6.   TCNJ                    at Rowan, vs Ramapo, at Montclair
7.   DeSales               at Rosemont, vs Wilkes, vs Catholic
8.   Montclair              at Eastern CT, at NJCU, vs Stockton
9.   Lehman               vs Mt. St. Vincent, vs Southern Vermont, at Staten Island
10. Stockton              vs William Paterson, at Linfield, vs Rowan

Thanks, Knighstalker!  Really appreciate it.

On those best wins, can you filter out the ones that are not one of the following: 1) current D3hoops.com Top 25 + ORV, 2) current Massey top 25, 3) current Knightslappy efficiency top 25.  Just making sure we keep it consistent.  Thanks again!

I will go through the list and edit the wins.  I also forgot to put in records.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

Knightstalker

I took a stab at the Atlantic Region.  I used the criteria Titan Q specified and listed what I feel were the three best wins for each team.  I added up the rankings and divided by three if listed in the D3 poll or 2 if only listed in Massey and KS polls.  I am not a numbers person and this was the best I could come up with.

1.   Gwynedd Mercy  (13-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Cabrini
2.   Ramapo              (14-4, 10-1 NJAC) vs NJCU
3.   Cabrini                (14-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Eastern CT
4.   NJCU                   (14-3, 8-2 NJAC)
5.   Nuemann            (12-4, 7-3 CSAC)
6.   TCNJ                   (14-3, 9-1 NJAC)    vs Ramapo
7.   DeSales              (13-4, 4-2 MACF)
8.   Montclair             (13-5, 9-4 NJAC)    at Eastern CT, at NJCU
9.   Lehman              (13-4, 8-1 CUNYAC)
10. Stockton             (11-7, 5-6 NJAC)

Edited the best wins as Titan Q requested and added in records.  I was originally going to only rank 8 teams as that is what the Atlantic gets in the regional rankings but decided to stretch it out to ten.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

Titan Q

#11548
Smitty Oom's West Region
1. Whitman Blues (17-0, 8-0 NWC) - vs. Occidental, vs. UW-Stevens Point (Las Vegas), vs. Ohio Wesleyan (Las Vegas), vs. Whitworth
2. St. John's Johnnies (14-1, 10-0 MIAC) - vs. Bethel, at Augsburg
3. Whitworth Pirates (15-2, 7-1 NWC) - vs. North Central
4. Nebraska Wesleyan Prairie Wolves (16-2, 7-2 IIAC) - vs. Wartburg
5. Loras Duhawks (14-4, 7-2 IIAC) - vs. Nebraska Wesleyan, at Buena Vista
6. Augsburg Auggies (13-4, 8-4 MIAC) - vs. Loras, vs. Wartburg (Las vegas), at Bethel
7. Bethel Royals (12-4, 7-4 MIAC) - at Augsburg
8. Buena Vista Beavers (14-4, 7-2 IIAC) - at Nebraska Wesleyan
9. Wartburg Knights (12-5, 5-3 IIAC) - vs. Loras, vs. UW-Stevens Point (Las Vegas), vs. Buena Vista
10. Occidental Tigers (14-2, 7-0 SCIAC) -

Titan Q's Central Region
1. Wash U (14-2, 5-0 UAA) - vs Tufts, vs Ohio Northern, at Illinois Wesleyan
2. Illinois Wesleyan (14-3, 7-1 CCIW) - at North Central, at Wheaton, vs Augustana
3. Augustana (14-3, 6-2 CCIW) - vs North Central, vs UW-Stevens Point (neutral), at Wash U
4. UW-Stevens Point (12-5, 6-0 WIAC) - at Buena Vista, at UW-River Falls, at UW-Whitewater, vs UW-Platteville
5. Wheaton (13-4, 6-2 CCIW) - vs Baldwin Wallace, at Whitworth, at Augustana
6. UW-River Falls (12-4, 3-3 WIAC) - at UW-Whitewater, vs UW-Platteville
7. UW-Whitewater (14-3, 4-2 WIAC) at UW-Oshkosh
8. UW-Oshkosh (13-4, 3-3 WIAC) - vs Augustana, vs UW-River Falls
9. UW-Platteville (14-3, 4-2 WIAC) - vs UW-Oshkosh
10. North Central (12-5, 5-3 CCIW) - vs Wheaton

Ronk's Mid-Atlantic Region
1. York(PA) (16-1, 9-1 CAC)  Swarthmore, Middlebury(N), CNU, split with the holder of The Belt(UMW)
2. Swarthmore (15-2, 9-1  CC) @ Middlebury
3. F&M (14-3, 8-2 CC) Swarthmore
4. Lycoming (17-1, 8-1 MACC)
5. Johns Hopkins (13-4, 7-3 CC) New Jersey City(N)
6. Drew (13-4, 6-0 LAND) Juniata
7. Juniata (14-3, 3-3 LAND)
The current holder of The Belt
8. Mary Washington (12-5, 6-4 CAC) York(PA) 

Knightstalker's Atlantic Region
1.   Gwynedd Mercy  (13-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Cabrini
2.   Ramapo              (14-4, 10-1 NJAC) vs NJCU
3.   Cabrini                (14-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Eastern CT
4.   NJCU                   (14-3, 8-2 NJAC)
5.   Nuemann            (12-4, 7-3 CSAC)
6.   TCNJ                   (14-3, 9-1 NJAC)    vs Ramapo
7.   DeSales              (13-4, 4-2 MACF)
8.   Montclair             (13-5, 9-4 NJAC)   
9.   Lehman              (13-4, 8-1 CUNYAC)
10. Stockton             (11-7, 5-6 NJAC)

warriorcat

Quote from: Knightstalker on January 21, 2018, 08:21:12 PM
I took a stab at the Atlantic Region.  I used the criteria Titan Q specified and listed what I feel were the three best wins for each team.  I added up the rankings and divided by three if listed in the D3 poll or 2 if only listed in Massey and KS polls.  I am not a numbers person and this was the best I could come up with.

1.   Gwynedd Mercy  (13-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Cabrini
2.   Ramapo              (14-4, 10-1 NJAC) vs NJCU
3.   Cabrini                (14-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Eastern CT
4.   NJCU                   (14-3, 8-2 NJAC)
5.   Nuemann            (12-4, 7-3 CSAC)
6.   TCNJ                   (14-3, 9-1 NJAC)    vs Ramapo
7.   DeSales              (13-4, 4-2 MACF)
8.   Montclair             (13-5, 9-4 NJAC)    at Eastern CT, at NJCU
9.   Lehman              (13-4, 8-1 CUNYAC)
10. Stockton             (11-7, 5-6 NJAC)

Edited the best wins as Titan Q requested and added in records.  I was originally going to only rank 8 teams as that is what the Atlantic gets in the regional rankings but decided to stretch it out to ten.

I believe hat Montclair lost to Eastern CT