Top 25 talk

[fpc85]

Ralph - completely agree. Lord Jeff's deserve their votes... but really... who else does.

Ahh #1 by default.

[fpc85]

Don't ask me how Amherst wasn't already ranked #1 if they don't get the 1 spot this week i'll that would be ludacris.

Yeah, because that win against Bates looks better every day. Brandeis too.

Good one. Just win baby . That's all they can do. AC has a tough one on Tuesday....hopefully they can beat them and hear more about who they play. Next time don't rank them so high to begin with...that way you can feel better about the polls. You know the NE is weak and Amherst is just gaming the system. How dare they?

[fpc85]

oops... amhert's opponent on tuesday is Rhode Island College. Nice test but definitely not any of the 5 teams that might leapfrog the Jeffs this week.

[Gregory Sager]

Don't ask me how Amherst wasn't already ranked #1 if they don't get the 1 spot this week i'll that would be ludacris.

Amherst is the Lord Jeffs.  Ludacris (aka, Christopher Brian Bridges) is a rapper!

And to say otherwise would be ludicrous.

[sac]

Don't ask me how Amherst wasn't already ranked #1 if they don't get the 1 spot this week i'll that would be ludacris.

Amherst is the Lord Jeffs.  Ludacris (aka, Christopher Brian Bridges) is a rapper!

I'm really impressed Ralph knew this.

[wooscotsfan]

#4 Virginia Wesleyan had a bad loss this afternoon as they got beat at Emory & Henry by a 124-101 score.

The Wasps are obviously an up tempo system team but the score margin is still amazing when you consider that Va. Wesleyan is the defending national champ

Two key stats from the boxscore seem to explain the outcome of this game:

Emory & Henry shot 20 of 40 on three pointers while Va. Wes was 1 of 8
Va. Wes had 26 turnovers in this game; can't win with that many!

...and it doesn't get any easier for Va. Wesleyan as they play AT #25 Guilford tomorrow afternoon.

[sac]

#4 Virginia Wesleyan had a bad loss this afternoon as they got beat at Emory & Henry by a 124-101 score.

The Wasps are obviously an up tempo system team but the score margin is still amazing when you consider that Va. Wesleyan is the defending national champ

Two key stats from the boxscore seem to explain the outcome of this game:

Emory & Henry shot 20 of 40 on three pointers while Va. Wes was 1 of 8
Va. Wes had 26 turnovers in this game; can't win with that many!

...and it doesn't get any easier for Va. Wesleyan as they play AT #25 Guilford tomorrow afternoon.

I believe but am not certain Emory and Henry plays "system" ball

[David Collinge]

Top 25 Scores and Schedule, January 22-28 (UPDATED with Saturday scores)

#   1   UW-Stevens Point (16-2) lost to#8 UW-Oskosh 72-55
#   2   Amherst (20-0) def. So. Vermont 111-67, won at Colby 69-58, and won at Bowdoin 73-55
#   3   Wooster (17-2) def. Kenyon 89-54 and won at Earlham 64-51
#   4   Virginia Wesleyan (15-3) def. Hampden-Sydney 75-49, lost at Emory & Henry 124-101, and plays at #25 Guilford Sun.
#   5   Mississippi College (17-1) def. LeTorneau 72-51 and def. East Texas Baptist 66-46
#   6   St. Thomas (16-2) won at St. Olaf 78-53, def. Hamline 90-71, and won at Macalester 87-55
#   7   Whitworth (17-2) won at Pacific 77-69 and lost at Lewis & Clark 66-60
#   8   UW-Oshkosh (17-3) won at #1 UW-Stevens Point 72-55 and def. UW-River Falls 90-67
#   9   Hope (16-2) def. Tri-State 101-57 and def. Kalamazoo 86-48
#   10   Washington U. (15-1) def. Brandeis 68-64 and hosts #24 NYU Sun.
#   11   Elmhurst (15-3) def. North Central 98-84 and lost at #12 Augustana 86-74
#   12   Augustana (16-3) def. Illinois Wesleyan 64-62 and def. #11 Elmhurst 86-74
#   13   Puget Sound (14-4) lost at Willamette 119-108 and lost at George Fox 75-63
#   14   Ohio Northern (15-4) def. Heidelberg 83-80 and won at Baldwin-Wallace 83-74
#   15   Occidental (12-4) lost to Redlands 109-106 and won at La Verne 70-49
#   16   Wittenberg (16-3) won at Wabash 64-51 and def. Denison 87-65
#   17   Worcester Polytech (16-1) def. Coast Guard 76-68 and won at Wheaton (Mass.) 67-64
#   18   Aurora (17-1) def. Lakeland 94-76 and def. Benedictine 83-79
#   19   Bates (16-3) def. Emmanuel 75-57, won at Wesleyan 59-56 (OT), and lost at Conn. College 82-65
#   20   Carthage (13-5) won at North Park 64-62 and def. Illinois Wesleyan 94-83
#   21   Wheaton (Ill.) (12-6) won at Millikin 71-57 and lost at North Central 79-68
#   22   Johns Hopkins (13-2) def. Gettysburg 83-67 and won at Washington Coll. 72-54
#   23   Keene St. (16-3) won at Plymouth St. 58-57, won at Mitchell 79-69, and lost at Mass.-Dartmouth 97-74
#   24   NYU (14-3) lost at Chicago 62-60 and plays at #10 Washington U. Sun.
#   25   Guilford (14-2) def. Randolph-Macon 76-65 and hosts #4 Virginia Wesleyan Sun.

[golden_dome]

Mississippi College won their 17th straight today 66-46 over ETBU and led 54-27 with eight minutes remaining. Timothy Broomfield finishes with 7 points, 10 boards and 8 blocks. 6'8" center Ryan Hudson filled in for injured Tyler Winford with 9 points and 8 rebounds. Winford is out  a couple of weeks with a knee sprain. 

MC is allowing just 48.6 points in their last eight games.

This is kind of off topic but will Depauw receive any votes in the Top 25 this week? They are 15-1 in region play and 16-3 overall. I plan on watching them tomorrow at Millsaps.

[Ralph Turner]

Mississippi College won their 17th straight today 66-46 over ETBU and led 54-27 midway through second half. Timothy Broomfield finishes with 7 points, 10 boards and 8 blocks. 6'8" center Ryan Hudson filled in for injured Tyler Winford with 9 points and 8 rebounds. Winford is out  a couple of weeks with a knee sprain. 

MC is allowing just 48.6 points in their last eight games.

This is kind of off topic but will Depauw receive any votes in the Top 25 this week? They are 15-1 in region play and 16-3 overall. I plan on watching them tomorrow at Millsaps.

Chris, please bring us a report on DePauw!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

#4 Virginia Wesleyan had a bad loss this afternoon as they got beat at Emory & Henry by a 124-101 score.

The Wasps are obviously an up tempo system team but the score margin is still amazing when you consider that Va. Wesleyan is the defending national champ

Two key stats from the boxscore seem to explain the outcome of this game:

Emory & Henry shot 20 of 40 on three pointers while Va. Wes was 1 of 8
Va. Wes had 26 turnovers in this game; can't win with that many!

...and it doesn't get any easier for Va. Wesleyan as they play AT #25 Guilford tomorrow afternoon.

I believe but am not certain Emory and Henry plays "system" ball

From what I have been told... they are playing a version of "system" ball. That has allowed them to get some eyebrow raising wins like over VA Wesleyan... but also contributed to a few tough losses. I would be interested to see how they do in the rest of the ODAC and in the ODAC tournament... after all they are #3 in the conference right now.

[Pat Coleman]

I don't believe it's "a version" -- it's just plain System there.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The only reason I say "version" is because every coach takes the basis of the "system" and then tweaks it to how they want to run it. At least, that is what coaches are telling me. Muhlenberg's women took the system and made it work for them. Redlands runs slightly different than Grinnel... etc. I don't think every team runs the system exactly the same... that's all.

[Pat Coleman]

Well, in that case every school runs a version of something. But it kinda sounds like you were meaning to put E&H into a class like Puget Sound, which runs and guns but is not System.

[David Collinge]

Top 25 Scores and Schedule, January 22-28 (FINAL)

#   1   UW-Stevens Point (16-2) lost to #8 UW-Oskosh 72-55
#   2   Amherst (20-0) def. So. Vermont 111-67, won at Colby 69-58, and won at Bowdoin 73-55
#   3   Wooster (17-2) def. Kenyon 89-54 and won at Earlham 64-51
#   4   Virginia Wesleyan (16-3) def. Hampden-Sydney 75-49, lost at Emory & Henry 124-101, and won at #25 Guilford 72-69
#   5   Mississippi College (17-1) def. LeTorneau 72-51 and def. East Texas Baptist 66-46
#   6   St. Thomas (17-2) won at St. Olaf 78-53, def. Hamline 90-71, and won at Macalester 87-55
#   7   Whitworth (17-2) won at Pacific 77-69 and lost at Lewis & Clark 66-60
#   8   UW-Oshkosh (17-3) won at #1 UW-Stevens Point 72-55 and def. UW-River Falls 90-67
#   9   Hope (16-2) def. Tri-State 101-57 and def. Kalamazoo 86-48
#   10   Washington U. (16-1) def. Brandeis 68-64 and def. #24 NYU 79-78 (OT)
#   11   Elmhurst (15-3) def. North Central 98-84 and lost at #12 Augustana 86-74
#   12   Augustana (16-3) def. Illinois Wesleyan 64-62 and def. #11 Elmhurst 86-74
#   13   Puget Sound (14-4) lost at Willamette 119-108 and lost at George Fox 75-63
#   14   Ohio Northern (15-4) def. Heidelberg 83-80 and won at Baldwin-Wallace 83-74
#   15   Occidental (12-4) lost to Redlands 109-106 and won at La Verne 70-49
#   16   Wittenberg (16-3) won at Wabash 64-51 and def. Denison 87-65
#   17   Worcester Polytech (16-1) def. Coast Guard 76-68 and won at Wheaton (Mass.) 67-64
#   18   Aurora (17-1) def. Lakeland 94-76 and def. Benedictine 83-79
#   19   Bates (16-3) def. Emmanuel 75-57, won at Wesleyan 59-56 (OT), and lost at Conn. College 82-65
#   20   Carthage (13-5) won at North Park 64-62 and def. Illinois Wesleyan 94-83
#   21   Wheaton (Ill.) (12-6) won at Millikin 71-57 and lost at North Central 79-68
#   22   Johns Hopkins (17-2) def. Gettysburg 83-67 and won at Washington Coll. 72-54
#   23   Keene St. (16-3) won at Plymouth St. 58-57, won at Mitchell 79-69, and lost at Mass.-Dartmouth 97-74
#   24   NYU (14-4) lost at Chicago 62-60 and lost at #10 Washington U. 79-78 (OT)
#   25   Guilford (14-3) def. Randolph-Macon 76-65 and lost to #4 Virginia Wesleyan 72-69