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John Gleich

#2640
February 25, 2007, 02:29:28 PM
This is looking more and more to be the year of the upsets... I don't know if anyone has looked at the number of regular season champs who have been beaten in the conference tournament, but it seems like this year there are even more than usual.
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Greek Tragedy

#2641
February 25, 2007, 09:14:11 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on February 25, 2007, 02:29:28 PM
This is looking more and more to be the year of the upsets... I don't know if anyone has looked at the number of regular season champs who have been beaten in the conference tournament, but it seems like this year there are even more than usual.

16 conference upsets...I counted, in bold.  Tourney winner's reg. season place in ()



      Conference         Region      Regular season      Tourney   
      GNAC         NE      Western New England      Rivier (3rd)   
      NESCAC         NE      Amherst      Williams (3rd)   
      CCC         NE      (N) Gordon (S) Curry      Wentworth Tech (N3)   
      NEWMAC         NE      Worcester Polytech      Coast Guard (7)   
      NAC         NE      (E) Husson (W) Elms      Elms   
      UAA         multiple      Washington U      N/A   
      MASCAC         NE      Salem State      Salem State   
      LEC         NE      Rhode Island College      Rhode Island College   
      Empire 8         East      St. John Fisher      St. John Fisher   
      NEAC         East      (N) Baptist Bible (S) Villa Julie      Villa Julie   
      SUNYAC         East      Brockport State      Plattsburgh State (2)   
      LL         East      Hamilton      St. Lawrence (2)   
      AMCC         GL      Lake Erie      Lake Erie   
      CUNYAC         Atl       York (NY)      York (NY)   
      Skyline         Atl      Manhattanville      Manhattanville   
      NJAC         Atl      (N) New Jersey City (S) Rowan      Ramapo (N2)   
      MAC-C         M-A      Messiah      Widener (4)   
      PnAC         M-A      Alvernia      Alvernia   
      CAC         M-A      Hood      Catholic (2)   
      MAC-F         M-A      King's      King's   
      Centennial         M-A      Johns Hopkins      John Hopkins   
      SCAC         South      Centre      Centre   
      USA-South          South      Averett      Averett   
      ODAC         South      Virginia Wesleyan      Hampden-Sydney (4)   
      ASC         South      (E) Mississippi C. (W) MHB      Mississippi College   
      GSAC         South      Maryville (Tenn.)      Maryville (Tenn.)   
      MIAA         GL      Hope      Calvin (2)   
      NCAC         GL      Wooster      Wooster   
      OAC         GL      Capital      Capital   
      PrAC         GL      Westminster (Pa.)      Grove City (4)   
      HCAC         MW      Franklin      Transylvania (2)   
      CCIW         MW      Augustana      Augustana   
      NathCon         MW      Aurora      Aurora   
      Midwest         MW      Grinnell      Carroll (2)   
      SLIAC         MW      MacMurray      Fontbonne (4)   
      MIAC         West      St. Thomas      St. Thomas   
      UMAC         West      Northwestern (Minn.)      St. Scholastica (3)   
      IIAC         West      Loras      Loras   
      SCIAC         West      Occidental      N/A   
      NWC         West      Whitworth      Whitworth   
      WIAC         West      Stevens Point      Stevens Point   
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#2642
February 25, 2007, 09:17:24 PM
oooh.... Bravo! You and your tables... ;)
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sac

#2643
February 25, 2007, 09:18:45 PM
Makes me cringe to see 4 upsets in the NE.

should we just pencil in Amherst and Williams in the sweet 16.

pbrooks3

#2644
February 25, 2007, 09:24:36 PM
Centre wins the SCAC and is now rated 17.  What is the possibility of hosting the first round for this team?
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John Gleich

#2645
February 25, 2007, 10:06:39 PM
16/41.  That's 39%.  That sure SEEMS a higher percentage than last year....
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Ralph Turner

#2646
February 25, 2007, 11:27:33 PM
The UMAC and the Great South are not officially recognized conferences.

The Presidents AC is a Pool B contender moving to Pool A next year.
The NAthCon moves to Pool A in 2008-09.

I count 14 out of 37 or 38%.

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#2647
February 25, 2007, 11:29:08 PM
Quote from: sac on February 25, 2007, 09:18:45 PM
Makes me cringe to see 4 upsets in the NE.

should we just pencil in Amherst and Williams in the sweet 16.

Knowing the NCAA, I'm sure they'll try to make that happen and put them on opposite sides of the bracket...so they can meet in the Final Four! lol :D
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John Gleich

#2648
February 26, 2007, 12:10:44 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2007, 11:27:33 PM
The UMAC and the Great South are not officially recognized conferences.

The Presidents AC is a Pool B contender moving to Pool A next year.
The NAthCon moves to Pool A in 2008-09.

I count 14 out of 37 or 38%.

I figured there were some  Pool B's or provisional conferences in the list.  Still though...
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ILive4This

#2649
February 26, 2007, 11:14:17 PM
Just wondering how a team like NYU with a loss at home does not drop at all in the poll, and Lake Erie which i believe has a bye and hosts in the second round does not get onto the poll.

Pat Coleman

#2650
February 26, 2007, 11:16:21 PM
Lake Erie being granted a bye by the NCAA is really unrelated to a Top 25 vote, isn't it?
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#2651
February 27, 2007, 12:45:28 AM
Again you are correct, otherwise UW-osh would be in the tournament as the d3hoops voters see them as the 8th best team in the country.

Ralph Turner

#2652
February 27, 2007, 08:25:19 AM
Quote from: ILive4This on February 27, 2007, 12:45:28 AM
Again you are correct, otherwise UW-osh would be in the tournament as the d3hoops voters see them as the 8th best team in the country.

I wish that Oshkosh had beaten LaCrosse at least once so we would not have this much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

We are approaching unanimity on that point.

David Collinge

#2653
February 27, 2007, 08:34:19 PM Last Edit: March 02, 2007, 11:04:48 PM by David Collinge
Top 25 Tournament Glance, Rounds 1-2      

#   1   UW-Stevens Point (25-2) received a bye; hosts St. John's (21-7) Sat.
#   2   Wooster (26-3) def. Transylvania 92-66; hosts #23 Centre (24-4) Sat.
#   3   Mississippi College (26-2) def. #15 Occidental 68-51; hosts Maryville (TN) (22-6) Sat.
#   4   Virginia Wesleyan (24-4) def. Averett 63-60; hosts Hampden-Sydney (19-10) Sat.
#   5   St. Thomas (24-3) received a bye; hosts Carroll (17-8) Sat.
#   6   Amherst (25-2) received a bye; hosts Widener (15-12) Sat.
#   7   Augustana (22-6) lost to Carroll in NCAA 1st round; season complete
#   8   Washington U. (21-4) def. Fontbonne 77-58; hosts #11 Whitworth (24-3) Sat.
#   9   UW-Oshkosh (21-6) season complete
#   10   Hope (24-4) def. #12 Chicago 76-54 at Aurora; plays Calvin (19-9) Sat. at Aurora
#   11   Whitworth (24-3) def. DePauw 62-59 (OT) at Washington U.; plays at Wash. U. (21-4) Sat.
#   12   Chicago (20-6) lost to #10 Hope 76-54 at Aurora; season complete
#   13   Elmhurst (21-6) season complete
#   14   Aurora (25-3) lost to Calvin 69-68; season complete
#   15   Occidental (19-6) lost at #3 Mississippi College 68-51; season complete
#   16   UW-La Crosse (19-8) season complete
#   17   Wittenberg (22-5) season complete
#   18   Worcester Polytech (22-4) lost to Stevens 68-57 at Ramapo; season complete
#   19   Guilford (22-4) def. Manhattanville 101-81 at Johns Hopkins; plays at Johns Hopkins (24-4) Sat.
#   20   Trinity (CT) (21-5) lost to Brandeis 77-70 (OT) at Rhode Island Coll.; season complete
#   21   Rhode Island College (25-3) def. Coast Guard 64-60; hosts Brandeis (20-6) Sat.
#   22   Salem St. (24-2) received a bye; hosts Keene St. (24-5) Sat.
#   23   Centre (24-4) def. Capital 69-55 at Wooster; plays at #2 Wooster (26-3) Sat.
#   24   NYU (20-6) def. St. Joseph's (NY) 87-68; hosts Rutgers-Newark (18-10) Fri. (ECAC Metro tournament)
#   25   John Carroll (20-9) def. Westminster (PA) 87-83; plays at Lake Erie (25-2) Sat.

fpc85

#2654
February 27, 2007, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: Old School on February 25, 2007, 11:29:08 PM
Quote from: sac on February 25, 2007, 09:18:45 PM
Makes me cringe to see 4 upsets in the NE.

should we just pencil in Amherst and Williams in the sweet 16.

Knowing the NCAA, I'm sure they'll try to make that happen and put them on opposite sides of the bracket...so they can meet in the Final Four! lol :D
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