Top 25 talk

[ScotsFan]

Interesting that UST finds it's way into the polls this week ranked ahead of the team that gave them their only blemish on the season...

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Interesting that UST finds it's way into the polls this week ranked ahead of the team that gave them their only blemish on the season...

I guess two blemishes are not better than one  

[kiltedbryan]

Interesting that UST finds it's way into the polls this week ranked ahead of the team that gave them their only blemish on the season...

I guess two blemishes are not better than one   

Interesting, maybe, but deserved, too. UST is 6-1, which looks a whole lot better than 2-2 even with the Scots' win over UST.

The Wooster-UST game was a pretty evenly matched game, which Wooster had to fight back to take the lead late. For UST is was a loss on the road to a Top 25 team. Also, the win over Winona State definitely registers in the voters' eyes, even if the NCAA won't ever look at it (just like the Cedarville loss hurts Wooster, not that the NCAA will care).

Besides, the voters still see UST and Wooster as roughly evenly matched - only 26 vote points separate the two in this week's poll.

[Titan Q]

Interesting that UST finds it's way into the polls this week ranked ahead of the team that gave them their only blemish on the season...

Complete body of work, ScotsFan. 

Wooster lost on the road to a good NAIA II team...St. Thomas won on the road vs the then #1-ranked team in NCAA Division II (Winona St). 

Wooster lost at Lake Erie...St. Thomas won at UW-La Crosse, a team fresh off a win @ highly-regarded Augustana.

And while head-to-head results are big, that game was @ Wooster and St. Thomas led for most of the game...

http://athletics.wooster.edu/mb/boxes/2007-08/stthomas.php

[smedindy]

The whole "I should be ranked above the team I beat" thing is nonsense, especially in the years where a team like Denison beats Wittenberg.

[Mr. Ypsi]

The whole "I should be ranked above the team I beat" thing is nonsense, especially in the years where a team like Denison beats Wittenberg.

Are you trying to tell me USC deserved to finish higher in the BCS than Stanford??!!

[ScotsFan]

The whole "I should be ranked above the team I beat" thing is nonsense, especially in the years where a team like Denison beats Wittenberg.

Are you trying to tell me USC deserved to finish higher in the BCS than Stanford??!!

You're also basing your assumptions on the extremes.  I wasn't trying to cause such a stir when I made my point.  Just as your extreme examples justify your argument, I would believe there are also circumstances where you really could question why team a is ranked ahead of team b when team b beat team a.  Confusing enough???

[Mr. Ypsi]

Just toyin' with ya, SF.

Of course h-to-h will be a major factor if the teams are otherwise quite close, but 6-1 vs. 2-2 (especially when one of the six is over d2's #1-ranked team) is not my idea of a close call!  I still suspect that Woo will eventually rise to the top 15, perhaps even top 10, but right now I'd say even #25 is probably generous.

[ILive4This]

Touching on the Game Day question. Amherst/Williams is one of the biggest/oldest rivalries in college sports even though it does not get much press. This is one reason that it was chosen as the game day site, especially since there were not VERY big games in FCS that day. That being said Amherst football has been terrible the last few years so it was expected that they would get run all over by a Williams team which also frankly was not that good this year.

[LogShow]

Touching on the Game Day question. Amherst/Williams is one of the biggest/oldest rivalries in college sports even though it does not get much press. This is one reason that it was chosen as the game day site, especially since there were not VERY big games in FCS that day. That being said Amherst football has been terrible the last few years so it was expected that they would get run all over by a Williams team which also frankly was not that good this year.

Good point.  I just remember turning on Gameday and looking at the helmets on the display, I am thinking...who the heck do those helmets belong to!?  I am glad that it was on cause an love from ESPN is a good thing, whether its Football, basketball or any sport.  Sort of like when the Grinnell basketball game was televised.

[kiltedbryan]

#15 Capital (6-1) solidly defeats Wilmington (6-1) at Capital, 89-68. Box

#25 Wooster (3-2) rolls past hapless Oberlin (0-7) at Oberlin 94-54. Box

[LogShow]

so now that UW-WW lost to Oshkosh are they going to drop 14 spots???

[cubs]

If UW Oshkosh can win again on Saturday against UW Stout, where do you you think we may see the Titans in the poll next week?  I was thinking maybe somewhere in the 12-15 range.....

[woolax]

Since this was an exhibition it doesnt count officially, however on 12/4 Guilford got handled severly by Prep power Hargrave Military Academy(VA) on thier home court 88-49. While it is likely that all of Hargraves players will be Frosh next year at Division I programs it is still disconserting to see a top D3 program dismantled by a group of PG players. http://www.hargrave.edu/athletics/sport_index.php?category_id=19

[ILive4This]

While i understand your point, it is possible that not only will they be d1 players, but in the case of some PG programs, would be NBAers next year had they not changed the rules. Losing to a team with a starting lineup that includes 2 future NBA players 2-4 years down the road and another 3 top d1 team players I would be okay with that. Take Oak Hill in VA, I would have been content with having Carmello drop 30+ on my team.