Top 25 talk

[bouttime]

Also how could I forget the Tartan's huge win at Rochester?!

[hopefan]

bouttime - I see you are new to D3hoops, and likely a CMU fan, and as I am a former Pittsburgher, from way back - I'll give you my 2 cents worth.  CMU will slowly climb as they continue to win.  The win over Bethany means little - Bethany is not doing as well as they did last year, and with the way they failed in the tourney last season, have received little recognition as being a quality opponent.  The win AT Union, I personally think, was a QUALITY win, one that should earn CMU additional votes.   Having gone to RPI myself, with UNION the big rival, I know that Union is year in year out a solid program, and tough to beat at home after a 500 mile road trip.  Wonder why CMU didn't play RPI up there rather than Skidmore  (Mike Griffin, the RPI coach is a former Pittsburgher) .
A loss to Princeton (my assumption) shouldn't hurt CMU's quest  -  what things will really come down to is how CMU performs agianst the traditional UAA powers such as Wash U, Rochester, and NYU

[bouttime]

The weekend with Skidmore and Union was set up as a home and home series with CMU and W & J. Skidmore and Union came to Pittsburgh last year and this year was up in New York. The Union coach was the one who organized it and Im not too sure of the future of the teams playing again.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Mellon already beat Rochester; I think they deserve a spot.

[Ralph Turner]

bouttime, I believe that you need four more fans shouting "We perceive a great degree of disrespect amongst the participants of this message board!" to get to the Top 25.

[bouttime]

I feel like the Tartans past history as a time might be stuck in the minds of the pollsters as opposed to the great basketball that they are playing this season.

[wooscotsfan]

New Top 25 D3Hoops poll is out this evening.

I want to thank the Top 25 voters for not penalizing #3 Wittenberg on their close road loss to #2 Wooster.  The Tigers played a great game at Wooster and could easily have won the game.

Top 5 teams are unchanged this week with Witt still at #3.  York fell from 6 to #10 this week.  Wooster and Amherst each got one #1 vote this week with the remaining 23 going to IWU.

Three new teams in the Top 25 this week are #22 Maryville, #23 Carnegie Mellon and #24 John Carroll.

[njlincolnlion]

Ugh  . Lincoln lost tonight to Wilkes (at Wilkes) 107-99 in OT.  Myricks had 41.  Hopefully successfull showings this weekend will keep the Lions in the top 25.

[diehardfan]

Mellon already beat Rochester; I think they deserve a spot.

anyone who beats rochester deserves a spot in my book 

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Anyone else surprised to see GAC fall from 11 all the way out of the top 25?  I know that the loss to St. Thomas doesn't "look good", but they are "#26" and there are others in the poll with "bad losses" - some of them with even more than 1.

[bamm]

Randolph-Macon is hosting a nice early season tourney this weekend, as njlincolnlion mentioned, with #11 R-M, #17 Lincoln, #20 St. John Fisher, and 6-1 Lake Erie playing. 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Not suprised on GAC at all.  I think the voters went of rep; I've been hearing how the Tommies are the only decent team in the conference this year since pre-season.  I think that had an impact.

Also, you gotta expect Lincoln is going to lose a few of these road games, even to teams they shouldn't lose to; the schedule is just so grueling.

Here's the new top 25:

1     Illinois Wesleyan (23)     6-0     623     1
2    Wooster (1)    8-0    598    2
3    Wittenberg    6-1    543    3
4    Amherst (1)    6-0    537    4
5    Puget Sound    4-1    496    5
6    Albion    5-1    462    7
7    Hope    9-0    457    8
8    Lawrence    6-0    435    9
9    Worcester Polytech    9-0    393    10
10    York (Pa.)    5-1    389    6
11    Randolph-Macon    6-1    293    12
12    UW-Stout    7-1    274    22
13    Augustana    7-0    271    17
14    Hanover    6-2    251    13
15    Wartburg    6-1    245    15
16    Elmhurst    5-2    199    20
17    Lincoln    7-1    185    23
18    Baldwin-Wallace    6-1    180    21
19    Rochester    6-2    174    16
20    St. John Fisher    4-1    171    18
21    Hampden-Sydney    6-0    125    24
22    Maryville (Tenn.)    8-0    120    —
23    Carnegie Mellon    9-0    114    —
24    John Carroll    6-1    108    —
25    UW-Oshkosh    3-3    69    14

[Coach C]

RMC's tournament looks to be among the really stong attractions coming up on the schedule.  While it may not have looked to be quite as rough a set of pairing when it was scheduled, it now has 4 of the top 50 or so teams in the nation and 3 of the top 20.  

C

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

What's odd is the two voters who went away from IWU, granted other teams are good, but a consensus #1 usually deserves the benefit of the doubt, at least until they lose.

It's also odd that the Tommies didn't get in after GAC fell all the way out.  I would have thought one of them would remain, but the points for those last few teams is so low, almost anything could happen.

That R-MC tournament will probably have a lot of implications for the poll next week.

[ScotsFan]

I noticed Ohio Northern almost craked into the top 25 this week (#28).  They have been very impressive early on in the season.  They have been winning by an average margin of almost 20 ppg and their only margin of victory in single digits was their 1st game of the season against DePauw (8 points).  Granted, they haven't really played anybody....  Yet!!  That will change dramitically in the next week!  Starting tomorrow when they host #18 Baldwin Wallace.  That is followed up by a road trip to Cleveland to take on John Carroll who is back in the top 25 at #24.  And, as if that wasn't enough, they will travel to take on #3 Wittenberg one week from tonight.  If we didn't have a grasp on just how good the Polar Bears are before this week, we should have a very good idea by this time next week.