Top 25 talk

[ILive4This]

There is no way you can keep rochester number 1 IF Wash U wins at Brandeis. If they win tonight I think they move into the number 1 spot, simply because I do not believe that Amherst can hop over Brandeis having lost convincingly. The Brandeis loss to chicago was surprising and disappointing, especially as it was the Judges only home loss last season when the Maroon was a much better squad. If the Judges lose todays game they drop somewhere around where Williams dropped to, so 8-10 range. If they beat Wash U then the pollsters will have some fun tonight. If Brandeis wins, it is possibly UMD could hop into the #1 spot, or equally as interesting Hope could hold the top spot in both polls.

[fpc85]

There is no way you can keep rochester number 1 IF Wash U wins at Brandeis. If they win tonight I think they move into the number 1 spot, simply because I do not believe that Amherst can hop over Brandeis having lost convincingly. The Brandeis loss to chicago was surprising and disappointing, especially as it was the Judges only home loss last season when the Maroon was a much better squad. If the Judges lose todays game they drop somewhere around where Williams dropped to, so 8-10 range. If they beat Wash U then the pollsters will have some fun tonight. If Brandeis wins, it is possibly UMD could hop into the #1 spot, or equally as interesting Hope could hold the top spot in both polls.

Brandeis hs three losses i think some may have a legitmate argument for the jeffs being #1. Though a wash u. win over judges is a stronger argument for #1. Is Deluca going to play this year? They really need him.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

There is no way you can keep rochester number 1 IF Wash U wins at Brandeis. If they win tonight I think they move into the number 1 spot, simply because I do not believe that Amherst can hop over Brandeis having lost convincingly. The Brandeis loss to chicago was surprising and disappointing, especially as it was the Judges only home loss last season when the Maroon was a much better squad. If the Judges lose todays game they drop somewhere around where Williams dropped to, so 8-10 range. If they beat Wash U then the pollsters will have some fun tonight. If Brandeis wins, it is possibly UMD could hop into the #1 spot, or equally as interesting Hope could hold the top spot in both polls.

I find it surprising that nearly no one wants to put Rochester #1 after they lost. They have less losses than nearly every team being mentioned for the number one slot, except UMD. No one has given any reason any of the voters should vote any other team beside Rochester or UMD #1.

There is no way you can keep rochester number 1 IF Wash U wins at Brandeis.

Why? What's the reason? There is no way??? You don't give a reason to why Rochester should drop! And no arguement for why Wash U should be #1.

Could someone give an arguement instead of just saying something that should happen or better happen?I am open to thoughts that have a solid backing to them, not just blanket statements with no supporting arguement.

If they (Brandeis) beat Wash U then the pollsters will have some fun tonight.

I think the pollsters are going to have "fun", as it where, no matter what. This has been an interesting season!

[Pat Coleman]

Yeah, there's a lot of conjecture and not a lot of logic being thrown out here. But I'll give a reason why we could consider Wash U for No. 1 with a win today.

1. Wash U would have beaten Brandeis on the road, while Rochester's win against them was at home.
2. Common opponent of Emory, who Wash U beat and Rochester lost to.

Those are simply possible justifications. Not saying they're bulletproof or that I would use them.

I'll also break down the schedule and opponents winning percentage and OOWP for the voters, hopefully.

[sac]

Rochester holding on to #1 despite losing would not be unprecedented in the poll, I believe Stevens Point hung on to the #1 ranking after losing a game a couple years ago.

The fact that WashU is where they are despite losing their terrific point gaurd to injury is really a great story.  I don't think most thought they'd have just 2 losses right now with that schedule.

[LogShow]

I wouldn't think Rochester will maintain #1.  There were lots of losses from top 25 teams this weekend...I am really interested to see how this new poll shakes out

[ChicagoHopeNut]

I wouldn't think Rochester will maintain #1.  There were lots of losses from top 25 teams this weekend...I am really interested to see how this new poll shakes out

While its a matter of opinion. I think Rochester should drop after losing this week, especially since Emory would not be considered a high quality opponent in the UAA. I think Wash U. should move up. I think they have some of the most impressive victories.

And either way, Rochester and Wash U. meet on Friday so next week one will have a real strong claim on first.

I view the top 5 as follows.

1. Wash U.
2. Amherst (I think these two spots are absolutely interchangeable and think either team should be there.)
3. Rochester
4. Hope
5. U-Mass Dartmouth

[fpc85]

Yeah, there's a lot of conjecture and not a lot of logic being thrown out here. But I'll give a reason why we could consider Wash U for No. 1 with a win today.

1. Wash U would have beaten Brandeis on the road, while Rochester's win against them was at home.
2. Common opponent of Emory, who Wash U beat and Rochester lost to.

Those are simply possible justifications. Not saying they're bulletproof or that I would use them.

I'll also break down the schedule and opponents winning percentage and OOWP for the voters, hopefully.

OOWP?

[Mr. Ypsi]

OOWP = Opponents' opponents' winning percentage.

[fpc85]

OOWP = Opponents' opponents' winning percentage.

interesting..thanks

[Jacketfan2011]

UAA scheduler must be a sadistic bastich.  Wash U and Chicago make the NYU/'deis trip and the next weekend they have to go to Rochester?   That's some serious travel

[fpc85]

anyone think the jeffs will get any serious consideration for the top slot. If not, what is the rationale?

[Pat Coleman]

I think they'll get serious consideration. But the other two teams beat Brandeis, where Amherst did not, including a team that beat Brandeis on the road, where Amherst played them.

[Mr. Ypsi]

My prediction for the top 5:
1. WashU
2. Rochester
3. Amherst
4. Hope
5. UMD

That's my prediction - while it will probably be the top 5 on my Posters' Poll ballot, I still haven't decided on the order!

[sayitaintso99]

Honestly, I do not get how UMD is hardly ever brought up in the talk about the number 1 spot. You can say whatever you want about their schedule. Any team they play are capable of beating them every night and that's all you can ask for. All these other teams have lost already and that being said UMD deserves a legit shot at the number 1 spot and respect from everyone else. You play to win the game and a loss is a loss, bringing up the fact that these other teams have lost on the road and whatever else is said are excuses. Especially since if they lose 1 game they will be penalized worse than any of these other teams who already have lost and most lost more than once. I really just don't get how people continue to look over them, just my opinion.