Top 25 talk

[Pat Coleman]

Absolutely. Kind of a no-brainer at this point, though.

[sac]

Add 10-3 Carthage to the ones to watch list.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I would suggest RIT should be added to that "ones to watch" as well.

[Pat Coleman]

Perhaps, but Rochester has similar credentials with a H2H win against RIT.

[sac]

yeah, definitely add Rochester to the watch list at 9-2

[magicman]

Darryl,

St. John Fisher did not lose to Elmira 70-58. SJF won 70-58. D3 Hoops had the score posted backwards on the Scoreboard, as the reporting school entered the wrong info. Write up from SJF web site:

The St. John Fisher College men's basketball team improved to 9-2 on the year with a 70-58 win at Elmira College on Sunday.  The Cardinals went on a 9-1 run over the closing moments of the first half to take a 34-24 lead into the locker room and never gave up the lead.

D3 Hoops Scoreboard has also made the correction.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Add 10-3 Carthage to the ones to watch list.

North Central is also 10-3, 2-0 in CCIW (though right now I'd say Carthage has slightly the higher resume).

[Darryl Nester]

Darryl,

St. John Fisher did not lose to Elmira 70-58. SJF won 70-58. D3 Hoops had the score posted backwards on the Scoreboard, as the reporting school entered the wrong info. ...

Magicman -- thanks for pointing this out; I corrected the report.  (I don't check the accuracy of scores posted to d3hoops, so my program is at the mercy of such mistakes.)

[Ralph Turner]

Add 10-3 Carthage to the ones to watch list.

North Central is also 10-3, 2-0 in CCIW (though right now I'd say Carthage has slightly the higher resume).

Carthage
Nov. 22       2:00 PM      at Redlands  •      W, 72-60     
      
Nov. 24    7:30 PM    at Cal Lutheran •    L, 84-78    
      
Nov. 26    7:00 PM    at Silver Lake    W, 82-60    
      
Dec. 5    6:00 PM    at Hope @ Wheaton (Ill.)    W, 89-68    
   
Dec. 6    1:00 PM    Calvin @ Wheaton (Ill.)    W, 95-82    
   
Dec. 12    7:00 PM    at Olivet Nazarene    L, 87-73    
      
Dec. 16    6:00 PM    Keene State @ Ft. Lauderdale, FL    W, 84-69    
      
Dec. 17    4:00 PM    Loras @ Fort Lauderdale •    W, 72-70    
         
Dec. 29    5:00 PM    UW-Platteville @ St. Norbert •    L, 74-48    
   
Dec. 30    5:00 PM    St. Scholastica @ De Pere, Wis. •    W, 73-63    
         
Jan. 5    7:30 PM    Trinity Int'l    W, 71-67    
      
Jan. 7    7:30 PM    at Millikin * •    W, 63-55    
      
Jan. 10    7:30 PM    Augustana * •    W, 66-57    

North Central

Nov. 21       8:00 PM      MacMurray  •      W, 107-68     
      
Nov. 22    8:00 PM    Mt. Vernon Naz. •    L, 91-75    
      
Nov. 25    7:30 PM    Aurora •    W, 83-65    
      
Nov. 29    7:30 PM    Franklin •    W, 76-62    
      
Dec. 3    7:30 PM    UW-Whitewater •    L, 62-54    
      
Dec. 9    7:00 PM    Lake Forest •    W, 76-40    
      
Dec. 15    7:30 PM    at Benedictine •    W, 71-63
         
Dec. 19    2:00 PM    at McMurry @ Las Vegas •    W, 69-66    
   
Dec. 20    4:00 PM    at Mary Washington @ Las Vegas    W, 70-61    
   
Dec. 27    6:00 PM    at Otterbein    W, 73-56
         
Dec. 28    8:00 PM    Baldwin-Wallace @ Otterbein    L, 72-67          

Jan. 7    7:30 PM    North Park * •    W, 81-66    
      
Jan. 10    7:30 PM    at Illinois Wesleyan * •    W, 77-70

Trying to gauge what is happening in the CCIW this year...

What about the 2 schedules leads you to believe that Carthage is slightly stronger than NCC to this point?  If a game-by-game quick assessment, up-or-down, helps then good.

Thanking you in advance...
      

[Ethelred the Unready]

Perhaps, but Rochester has similar credentials with a H2H win against RIT.

No, Pat.  Nothing to see here.  Let's just move along.....

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ralph, I haven't checked out ALL the opponents, but Carthage wins over Hope, Calvin, Keene St., Loras in non-con seem more impressive than Aurora, Franklin, Ott (though NCC had a close loss to UWW, while Carthage was blown out by UWP).  IN the CCIW, wins over Millikin and Augie seem more impressive than wins over NPU and IWU (though you can imagine how that last assessment saddens me!).

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph, I haven't checked out ALL the opponents, but Carthage wins over Hope, Calvin, Keene St., Loras in non-con seem more impressive than Aurora, Franklin, Ott (though NCC had a close loss to UWW, while Carthage was blown out by UWP).  IN the CCIW, wins over Millikin and Augie seem more impressive than wins over NPU and IWU (though you can imagine how that last assessment saddens me!).

Thanks! 

[sac]

We're just picking teams "to watch", not whether they should be in the top25 or not.

[sac]

#19  Elmhurst

I'm sorry man, but any other team from any other conference that loses 3 in a row drops out of the poll.  This is quite ridiculous imo.    That isn't even taking into account being ranked ahead of Anderson, who just beat them 10 days ago.

6 teams from one conference receiving top 25 votes. 

[scottiedawg]

Maybe so, but other than:
-285 MHB
-327 Brandeis

in the Week Two poll, no team has lost more votes. 

Also, we'll have to see just how strong the CCIW is once the Massey ratings come out.  Six teams from the CCIW received votes in the latest poll.  I view that as a strong conference, not the result of poor voters (not that you implied that, I never know what emoticons mean).  I don't think any other conference boasts more than three.