Top 25 talk

[Hugenerd]

MIT is ranked for the first time ever at #22.  

And hugenerd gets an early Christmas present!!! 8)

An early Christmas present indeed!  Not just me, but for every follower of the program.  I know that a lot of people are very proud of this group.

Personally, I am extremely happy for the coaching staff and the team.  The upperclassman (all 3 of them), have done a great job in helping the younger guys get adjusted to the college game and it is really showing in how everyone is playing as a unit.  

I am especially happy for the coaching staff because I have known most of them for so long.  It is not easy winning at a place like MIT (you can ask former Associate Head Coach Oli Eslinger who is now the Head Coach at Caltech about that), but those guys have done a spectacular job at changing the culture and expectations at MIT.  Current Associate Head Coach Kevin Byrne was an assistant at CMU when I played there, so I have known him for almost a decade (by the way, he seems to win wherever he goes, CMU won an average of 18 games per year his last 4 years there, not easy in the UAA, and his first year at MIT they tied an Instute record 21 wins and you all know what they are doing this year).  I have also known Coach Anderson for about 8 years since I was an undergrad thinking of transferring into his program.  I have also gotten to know the younger assistants, Coach Hagstrom (former Clark player) and Coach Phillips (former MCLA player) over the last two years and they are great guys.   Lastly, I am sure not many people know this, but MIT has a great asset in that they have former BC and Wisonsin star, and former 1st round NBA draft pick, Paul Grant on their staff.  He was a center in the NBA, so I am sure he can really pass along some wisdom and teach the young crop of big men at MIT how to get the most out of their talent.  

The best is yet to come!  GO MIT!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Congratulations, hugenerd!

Aren't those MIT guys smart enough to know that when you graduate the national POY you're supposed to fall a bit!   (Of course, Wheaton seems to be hanging in there pretty well so far despite graduating Kent Raymond [my preference for POY] AND all-CCIW center Andy Wiele.)

[Pat Coleman]

It does seem unlikely that Wooster will be in the next poll, though I agree they could be a Top 25 quality team.

As a reminder, the current poll does not include Monday's game.

As I am sure you know, Pat, the new top 25 is out:

Yes. The next poll I refer to is the next poll, not this one.

[nescac1]

On a random note, this HAS to be the top 25 with the highest academic profile ever: Wash U., Midd, Wheaton, Williams, Amherst, F&M, Brandeis, MIT, Chicago etc. ... revenge of the nerds!

[Ralph Turner]

On a random note, this HAS to be the top 25 with the highest academic profile ever: Wash U., Midd, Wheaton, Williams, Amherst, F&M, Brandeis, MIT, Chicago etc. ... revenge of the nerds!

Or it was that Top 25 that prompted the New York Times to run the article that is discussed on this thread...

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6740.0

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared -- Midweek report

Lots of idle teams this week, and many others with no games before the weekend, but on the bright side, there were no missing scores by the time I ran my program ....


Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Washington U.	7-0	12/19 at Fontbonne
#2	598	St. Thomas	6-0	IDLE
#3	573	UW-Whitewater	10-0	def. Carroll, 88-62
#4	537	UW-Stevens Point	8-1	12/19 vs. Wisconsin Lutheran
#5	527	Randolph-Macon	8-0	def. #25 Wooster, 72-65
#6	484	Guilford	6-1	def. T#40 Maryville (Tenn.), 82-53; 12/18 vs. Huntingdon (n); 12/20 vs. Rust (n)
#7	404	Middlebury	7-0	IDLE
#8	403	Wheaton (Ill.)	6-2	IDLE
#9	369	Texas-Dallas	7-1	12/20 vs. McMurry
#10	317	Wilmington	8-1	12/19 at Otterbein
#11	301	John Carroll	6-2	12/19 vs. Marietta
#12	280	Williams	8-0	IDLE
#13	268	Amherst	6-1	IDLE
#14	259	Franklin and Marshall	6-2	IDLE
#15	236	St. Norbert	6-0	12/19 at Milwaukee Engineering
#16	207	Brandeis	7-1	IDLE
#17	170	Mississippi College	7-0	12/19 vs. Sul Ross State
#18	167	Augustana	6-2	def. #24 Chicago, 59-47; 12/20 vs. Monmouth
#19	165	Chapman	8-1	12/20 vs. Redlands
#20	164	Mass-Dartmouth	6-2	IDLE
#21	149	Virginia Wesleyan	9-1	def. Apprentice School, 69-55
#22	132	MIT	11-0	IDLE
#23	121	Carthage	6-2	12/19 at Calumet Col.
#24	114	Chicago	6-2	LOST at #18 Augustana, 47-59
#25	96	Wooster	5-4	LOST at #5 Randolph-Macon, 65-72; 12/20 vs. Wabash

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	80	St. Mary's (Md.)	6-2	12/19 vs. Susquehanna (n); 12/20 at Universidad Metropolitana
#27	76	Richard Stockton	6-3	IDLE
#28	54	Hope	5-3	12/19 vs. Spring Arbor
#29	45	Anderson	7-1	12/19 vs. Trine
#30	33	Illinois Wesleyan	7-2	def. T#40 Illinois College, 70-59
#31	27	Elms	6-2	IDLE
#32	23	Cabrini	6-1	LOST at Merchant Marine, 61-73; 12/18 vs. Haverford
T#33	20	Worcester Polytech	9-1	IDLE
T#33	20	York (Pa.)	9-1	def. Wesley, 97-86
#35	19	DeSales	6-3	IDLE
T#36	13	Eastern Mennonite	8-1	12/19 at Averett
T#36	13	UW-La Crosse	8-2	IDLE
#38	12	Rochester	7-1	IDLE
#39	7	Western Connecticut	8-1	IDLE
T#40	5	Illinois College	6-2	LOST to #30 Illinois Wesleyan, 59-70
T#40	5	Maryville (Tenn.)	8-2	def. Averett, 87-71; LOST at #6 Guilford, 53-82
T#40	5	UW-Platteville	7-3	IDLE
T#43	1	Austin	6-1	12/18 vs. East Texas Baptist
T#43	1	Concordia (Ill.)	5-2	LOST at Cornell, 57-92; 12/17 at Blackburn; 12/19 vs. Manchester

[Pat Coleman]

By the way, there won't be a new Top 25 this week. We will return the next week.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared

Even though there's no new poll coming out, here is the summary of the last week's action ... only one missing score (in italics) on the men's side.

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Washington U.	8-0	def. Fontbonne, 82-64
#2	598	St. Thomas	6-0	IDLE
#3	573	UW-Whitewater	10-0	def. Carroll, 88-62
#4	537	UW-Stevens Point	9-1	def. Wisconsin Lutheran, 105-43
#5	527	Randolph-Macon	8-0	def. #25 Wooster, 72-65
#6	484	Guilford	8-1	def. T#40 Maryville (Tenn.), 82-53; def. Huntingdon, 71-58; def. Rust, 96-72
#7	404	Middlebury	7-0	IDLE
#8	403	Wheaton (Ill.)	6-2	IDLE
#9	369	Texas-Dallas	7-2	LOST to McMurry, 68-75
#10	317	Wilmington	9-1	def. Otterbein, 81-66
#11	301	John Carroll	7-2	def. Marietta, 96-57
#12	280	Williams	8-0	IDLE
#13	268	Amherst	6-1	IDLE
#14	259	Franklin and Marshall	6-2	IDLE
#15	236	St. Norbert	7-0	def. Milwaukee Engineering, 69-52
#16	207	Brandeis	7-1	IDLE
#17	170	Mississippi College	8-0	def. Sul Ross State, 89-84
#18	167	Augustana	7-2	def. #24 Chicago, 59-47; def. Monmouth, 87-68
#19	165	Chapman	9-1	def. Redlands, 76-57
#20	164	Mass-Dartmouth	6-2	IDLE
#21	149	Virginia Wesleyan	9-1	def. Apprentice School, 69-55
#22	132	MIT	11-0	IDLE
#23	121	Carthage	7-2	def. Calumet Col., 90-88
#24	114	Chicago	6-2	LOST at #18 Augustana, 47-59
#25	96	Wooster	6-4	LOST at #5 Randolph-Macon, 65-72; def. Wabash, 78-60

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	80	St. Mary's (Md.)	8-2	def. Susquehanna, 72-66; def. Universidad Metropolitana @ SanturcG, 71-51
#27	76	Richard Stockton	6-3	IDLE
#28	54	Hope	5-4	LOST to Spring Arbor, 55-63
#29	45	Anderson	8-1	def. Trine, 65-53
#30	33	Illinois Wesleyan	7-2	def. T#40 Illinois College, 70-59
#31	27	Elms	6-2	IDLE
#32	23	Cabrini	7-1	LOST at Merchant Marine, 61-73; def. Haverford, 71-58
T#33	20	Worcester Polytech	9-1	IDLE
T#33	20	York (Pa.)	9-1	def. Wesley, 97-86
#35	19	DeSales	6-3	IDLE
T#36	13	Eastern Mennonite	8-1	Postponed: 12/19 at Averett
T#36	13	UW-La Crosse	8-2	IDLE
#38	12	Rochester	7-1	IDLE
#39	7	Western Connecticut	8-1	IDLE
T#40	5	Illinois College	6-2	LOST to #30 Illinois Wesleyan, 59-70
T#40	5	Maryville (Tenn.)	8-2	def. Averett, 87-71; LOST at #6 Guilford, 53-82
T#40	5	UW-Platteville	7-3	IDLE
T#43	1	Austin	6-2	LOST to East Texas Baptist, 63-66
T#43	1	Concordia (Ill.)	5-3	LOST at Cornell, 57-92; LOST to Manchester, 85-103

[Titan Q]

Just FYI, the pollsters did not vote until today (to allow for holiday travel, etc)...so while there is a poll this week, I'd expect it a day later than usual.

[David Collinge]

Transylvania shocks #1 Wash U. at Wooster, 73-69.
#6 Guilford survives a rally by Ohio Wesleyan at Marietta, prevailing 79-72. 

[John Gleich]

#4 Point runs away from #2 UST 78-56

[John Gleich]

#3 Whitewater and Whitworth are playing right now in Spokane

Whitworth leads 34-30.  Follow the live stats HERE and live Video HERE

[John Gleich]

#3 Whitewater and Whitworth are playing right now in Spokane

Whitworth leads 34-30.  Follow the live stats HERE and live Video HERE

Another possible upset alert.  Whitewater now trails Whitworth by 7 in Spokane, 44-37

[frodotwo]

Whitworth on their way to upsetting UW-Whitewater up by 12 in the last minute. Total reshuffling of the top 4 next week??

[John Gleich]

Whitworth on their way to upsetting UW-Whitewater up by 12 in the last minute. Total reshuffling of the top 4 next week??

#1 Wash U
#2 St. Thomas
#3 UW Whitewater
#15 St. Norbert

All lose their first game tonight.  Not a good night for undefeated midwestern teams!