Top 25 talk

[Titan Q]

I just have a hard time believing WashU and Coach Edwards would be down more than one year!

"Down" is a pretty relative term though.  It's possible that Wash U is not a Top 25 team in 2010-11, but that they'll win 18 or 19 games and be in the NCAA tournament.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I just have a hard time believing WashU and Coach Edwards would be down more than one year!

"Down" is a pretty relative term though.  It's possible that Wash U is not a Top 25 team in 2010-11, but that they'll win 18 or 19 games and be in the NCAA tournament.

Agreed.  But this is the Top 25 board.  I'm having doubts they'll make it back to the Top 25 this year (not necessarily miss the tourney), but pretty much expect a re-appearance in 2011-12.

But it is awfully early for such talk - even from me!

[Greek Tragedy]

We should also remember that these two losses were to good teams.  UW-Platteville might end up being the 2nd best team in the WIAC.  Augustana is rated #24 right now and I suspect they may be closer to a #15 team.  They are just absolutely enormous, and it looks like this nucleus is starting to knock down perimeter shots.

There is a chance that once UAA play starts, Wash U won't see a single team as good as these two, or future non-conference opponent Illinois Wesleyan.  Rebuilding or not, it sounds like they're still the favorite to win the UAA.

And I do feel strongly that the Bears will be a lot better in February than they are right now.

Platteville was picked 6th in the WIAC, while Eau Claire, whom Washington U. beat by 5(?) was picked 7th.  Platteville lost two great guards in Curt Hanson and Mike Shaw.  Not sure if Platteville will be the 2nd best team in the WIAC.

Is the UAA down that bad that Platteville will be better than any UAA opponent this year?  Wow.

[Titan Q]

Platteville was picked 6th in the WIAC, while Eau Claire, whom Washington U. beat by 5(?) was picked 7th.  Platteville lost two great guards in Curt Hanson and Mike Shaw.  Not sure if Platteville will be the 2nd best team in the WIAC.

Is the UAA down that bad that Platteville will be better than any UAA opponent this year?  Wow.

But Platteville did add two big pieces in 6-6 Joe Allen (http://uwmpanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/allen_joe00.html) and 6-9 Chas Cross (Illinois small school 1st Team all-stater).

And as far as that WIAC preseason poll...

It has Whitewater #2, and after watching Whitewater vs Wheaton, I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen.

[Darryl Nester]

Just wanted to let everyone know that I am planning to post "How They Fared" again this season.  I have to confirm that the d3hoops.com update did not "break" my program; it will probably need a few tweaks because of the new layout, but I think they should be minor.  I plan to post a trial run tomorrow, and a final report Sunday night.  (I'm assuming there will be a new poll coming out next Monday.)

[John Gleich]

Platteville was picked 6th in the WIAC, while Eau Claire, whom Washington U. beat by 5(?) was picked 7th.  Platteville lost two great guards in Curt Hanson and Mike Shaw.  Not sure if Platteville will be the 2nd best team in the WIAC.

Is the UAA down that bad that Platteville will be better than any UAA opponent this year?  Wow.

But Platteville did add two big pieces in 6-6 Joe Allen (http://uwmpanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/allen_joe00.html) and 6-9 Chas Cross (Illinois small school 1st Team all-stater).

And as far as that WIAC preseason poll...

It has Whitewater #2, and after watching Whitewater vs Wheaton, I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen.

That Whitewater pick might be one of those "reputation" picks...

But it isn't to say it might not be warranted... Whitewater has won 5 of the last 10 conference titles with an average record of 11.3-4.7.  They also have 3 2nd places and 2 4th places.  They've gotten to 10 wins every year except one (8-8) and each year after taking 4th, they won the conference the next year.

Coach Miller has found a way, year after year to be competitive.  I think this Whitewater team has some growth to go to be there... but I don't doubt that they will be by crunch time at the end of the year.

[Ralph Turner]

Just wanted to let everyone know that I am planning to post "How They Fared" again this season.  I have to confirm that the d3hoops.com update did not "break" my program; it will probably need a few tweaks because of the new layout, but I think they should be minor.  I plan to post a trial run tomorrow, and a final report Sunday night.  (I'm assuming there will be a new poll coming out next Monday.)

+1 Darryl!  Thanks for doing the "How they fared" board.

[magicman]

Just wanted to let everyone know that I am planning to post "How They Fared" again this season.  I have to confirm that the d3hoops.com update did not "break" my program; it will probably need a few tweaks because of the new layout, but I think they should be minor.  I plan to post a trial run tomorrow, and a final report Sunday night.  (I'm assuming there will be a new poll coming out next Monday.)

Alright Darryl. "How They Fared" is one of my favorite places to visit, especially once the Posters' Poll gets going. Glad you're back again.

[Gregory Sager]

Add me to the chorus of voices who're glad you're doing "How They Fared" again, Darryl.

[magicman]

After 3 straight road games #22 Plattsburgh defeats visiting Clarkson College 75-70 in their home opener to improve their season mark to 3-1. It marked Coach Tom Curle's 8th straight year that the Cardinals have won their home opener.  Their 4 All- Conference players from last year continue to average double digit point totals. Errol Daniyan who scored his 1000th point last Friday led the Cardinals tonight with a double-double of 18 pts. and 17 boards. With tonight's totals Errol moved into 10th place on Plattsburgh's all-time scoring list(1036) and 10th place on the career rebounding chart (572). Plattsburgh is now off until they go back on the road Tuesday 11-30 and travel to Canton, NY to take on North Country rival St. Lawrence University.  

[Titan Q]

#5 Carthage vs #16 Whitworth tonight in Honolulu,  8:00pm HST.

Carthage (2-1)
G – Steve Djurickovic, 6-3 Sr (21.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 8.3 apg)
G – Malcolm Kelly, 6-0 So (14.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg)
G – Max Cary, 6-4 Jr (10.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg)
F – Mitch Thompson, 6-6 So (10.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg)
C – Tyler Pierce, 6-5 So (10.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg)


Whitworth (2-0)
G - Wade Gebbers, 5-11 So (9.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg)
G - Clay Gebbers, 6-1 Sr (5.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg)
F - David Riley, 6-5 Sr (16.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg)
F - Mike Taylor, 6-8 Jr (15.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg)
F - Felix Friedt, 6-8 Jr (9.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg)

http://www.clusports.com/pages/tournaments/2010SurfsUpClassicCentral.php


This will be the third Top 25 matchup of the young season (Carthage vs John Carroll, Augustana vs Wash U).

Remaining Top 25 matchups in November and December...

Nov 24
#5 Carthage vs #16 Whitworth (in Honolulu)

Nov 27
#7 Franklin & Marshall @ #11 St. Mary's (Md)
#14 Anderson @ #24 Augustana

Dec 1
#2 Randolph-Macon vs #12 Virginia Wesleyan

Dec 3
#5 Carthage vs #17 Hope

Dec 4
#2 Randolph-Macon @ #3 Eastern Mennonite

Dec 8
#1 UW-Stevens Point vs #21 UW-Whitewater

Dec 11
#2 Randolph-Macon vs #19 Guilford

Dec 15
#21 UW-Whitewater @ #24 Augustana

Dec 18
#4 Illinois Wesleyan @ #20 Washington U.

Dec 20
#6 Wooster @ #14 Anderson

Dec 22
#1 UW-Stevens Point @ #13 St. Thomas

Dec 28
#6 Wooster vs #18 John Carroll

Dec 29
#19 Guilford @ #25 Manchester

Dec 30
#10 St. Norbert vs #24 Augustana (potential tournament matchup)


* 5 Top 25 teams do not face another Top 25 team in November and December -- Williams, Middlebury, MIT, Plattsburgh State, Texas-Dallas.

* Augustana will potentially play 4 games vs Top 25 teams in November and December...Randolph-Macon plays 3.

[Greek Tragedy]

Good work TQ

[magicman]

I know these teams aren't Top 25 but just in case you missed it Skidmore defeats Southern Vermont 128-123 in the longest game in Division III history. SEVEN overtime periods before this marathon is decided. They basically played a double header. See my post over on the East Region Liberty League board. One guy from Southern Vermont played the entire 75 minutes.

[David Collinge]

I know these teams aren't Top 25 but just in case you missed it Skidmore defeats Southern Vermont 128-123 in the longest game in Division III history. SEVEN overtime periods before this marathon is decided. They basically played a double header. See my post over on the East Region Liberty League board. One guy from Southern Vermont played the entire 75 minutes.

See also the front page; in case you missed it, it's the lead story.

[magicman]

I know these teams aren't Top 25 but just in case you missed it Skidmore defeats Southern Vermont 128-123 in the longest game in Division III history. SEVEN overtime periods before this marathon is decided. They basically played a double header. See my post over on the East Region Liberty League board. One guy from Southern Vermont played the entire 75 minutes.

See also the front page; in case you missed it, it's the lead story.

Thanks David,
I did miss it. When to ATN page instead. Still getting the hang of the new D3hoops format. ESPN also has a story about it. Here's the link:


http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5846042&categoryid=2459792