Top 25 talk

[David Collinge]

Dave, here's a project for ya 

Find out how many times two conferences have had 2 teams in the top 5.

You might be surprised to learn that this has happened 9 times in the 101 polls to date:
2005-06 Week 7: NCAC (Wittenberg 1, Wooster 2), MIAA (Albion 3, Hope 4)
2005-06 Week 6: NCAC (Wittenberg 1, Wooster 3), MIAA (Hope 2, Albion 4)
2003-04 Week 8: NESCAC (Amherst 1, Williams 3), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 13: ODAC (RMC 1, HSC 4), UAA (WashU 2, Rochester 5)
2002-03 Week 6: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 4)
2002-03 Week 5: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 4: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 3: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 2: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)

Let alone 1 conference with 2 teams.

Including the 18 instances cited above, this feat has been accomplished by 8 conferences (CCIW, MIAA, NCAC, NESCAC, NJAC, ODAC, UAA, and WIAC) a total of 59 times, which is almost 6 out of every 10 polls.  It's happened in every season, a minimum of 4 times per season.  In the 2002-03 season, it happened in every poll.  The most frequent pairings are Hampden-Sydney and Randolph Macon (ODAC--15 times), Wittenberg and Wooster (NCAC--13 times), Amherst and Williams (NESCAC--8 times), and Rochester and Washington U. (UAA--8 times).  The other duos are Carthage/Wheaton, Carthage/IWU, Albion/Hope, Albion/Calvin, Rowan/WPU, Chicago/WashU, UW-Eau Claire/UW-Stevens Point, and UW-EC and UW-Platteville.

Your homework is due tommorow afternoon.  I get home around 3:30. 

I always turn my work in early; it intimidates the other students! 

[diehardfan]

Limericks are really more my style than haikus.
"There once was a man from Rock Falls..."

Aaah! Make it stop! Make it stop!! 

It appears that you've become the John James Audubon of D3 snowbirds.

Best analogy ever... EVER. Though it begs the question, did David shoot all the teams he saw to bring back with him.

Yeah, I've been fortunate.  My total would have been 8 if a) St. Thomas had been able to hold on to their ranking, and b) I had known that Lawrence was passing through town the last week of December.   I'm afraid my total will stay at six, barring some unforeseen SCIAC miracle. 

I'm still sorry about the Lawrence thing... ahh! But hey! We get to see Albion too whenever we watch the tape. 

I've actually seen three of the top 25, soon to be four, whenever I get around to going to an Oxy game. This includes Puget Sound, York, and RMC. Relative to eachother, I'd say they are in the right places in the poll relative to eachother, aside from Puget Sound, which I think may be not as good as York. This is about four times shorter than my normal list, but it's better than nothing. Basically Greg, where there's a will there's a way.

I, however, enjoy IDing plants much more than birds, so there is no appropriate name for me. 

[Gregory Sager]

I, however, enjoy IDing plants much more than birds, so there is no appropriate name for me. 

Go google Euell Gibbons. He was before your time, but those of us old enough to have watched TV in the 1970s remember him well, either for his notorious Post Grape Nuts commercial ("Ever eaten a pine tree? Many parts are edible.") or as a Johnny Carson punchline.

[smedindy]

Actually, the Massey Ratings I use include MOV and are:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1

there:

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

It appears that you've become the John James Audubon of D3 snowbirds.

Best analogy ever... EVER. Though it begs the question, did David shoot all the teams he saw to bring back with him.

My thoughts exactly; I especially like the use of all three names.

[Coach C]

I believe he also stuffed them to keep in his office.

C

[Knightstalker]

I, however, enjoy IDing plants much more than birds, so there is no appropriate name for me. 

Go google Euell Gibbons. He was before your time, but those of us old enough to have watched TV in the 1970s remember him well, either for his notorious Post Grape Nuts commercial ("Ever eaten a pine tree? Many parts are edible.") or as a Johnny Carson punchline.

I used to love it when he held out that handful of twigs and bark as he told us how delicious it was.

[Knightstalker]

I believe he also stuffed them to keep in his office.

C

Davids office could get crowded pretty quick is he does this, unless he keeps them in his basement.

[ds]

Dave, here's a project for ya 

Find out how many times two conferences have had 2 teams in the top 5.

You might be surprised to learn that this has happened 9 times in the 101 polls to date:
2005-06 Week 7: NCAC (Wittenberg 1, Wooster 2), MIAA (Albion 3, Hope 4)
2005-06 Week 6: NCAC (Wittenberg 1, Wooster 3), MIAA (Hope 2, Albion 4)
2003-04 Week 8: NESCAC (Amherst 1, Williams 3), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 13: ODAC (RMC 1, HSC 4), UAA (WashU 2, Rochester 5)
2002-03 Week 6: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 4)
2002-03 Week 5: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 4: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 3: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 2: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)

Good research.  I found two more weeks in the 00-01 season.
2000-01 Week 13: UAA (Chicago 3, WashU 4), NCAC (Wittenberg 2, Wooster 5)
2000-01 Week 12: UAA (Chicago 3, WashU 4), NCAC (Wooster 1, Wittenberg 5)

We had to play at WashU and Chicago between week 12 and week 13 that year--I guess it left an impression.

[Knightstalker]

I found four more instances of NJAC teams being ranked in the top 25 at the same time.

02-03 Week 7 WPU and MSU
02-23 Final     Ramapo and MSU
03-04 Week 1 Ramapo and MSU
03-04 Week 2 Ramapo and MSU

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I think they were going for two teams in the top 5, knightstalker.

[Knightstalker]

Dave, here's a project for ya 

Find out how many times two conferences have had 2 teams in the top 5.

You might be surprised to learn that this has happened 9 times in the 101 polls to date:
2005-06 Week 7: NCAC (Wittenberg 1, Wooster 2), MIAA (Albion 3, Hope 4)
2005-06 Week 6: NCAC (Wittenberg 1, Wooster 3), MIAA (Hope 2, Albion 4)
2003-04 Week 8: NESCAC (Amherst 1, Williams 3), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 13: ODAC (RMC 1, HSC 4), UAA (WashU 2, Rochester 5)
2002-03 Week 6: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 4)
2002-03 Week 5: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 4: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 3, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 3: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)
2002-03 Week 2: UAA (WashU 1, Rochester 2), ODAC (RMC 4, HSC 5)

Let alone 1 conference with 2 teams.

Including the 18 instances cited above, this feat has been accomplished by 8 conferences (CCIW, MIAA, NCAC, NESCAC, NJAC, ODAC, UAA, and WIAC) a total of 59 times, which is almost 6 out of every 10 polls.  It's happened in every season, a minimum of 4 times per season.  In the 2002-03 season, it happened in every poll.  The most frequent pairings are Hampden-Sydney and Randolph Macon (ODAC--15 times), Wittenberg and Wooster (NCAC--13 times), Amherst and Williams (NESCAC--8 times), and Rochester and Washington U. (UAA--8 times).  The other duos are Carthage/Wheaton, Carthage/IWU, Albion/Hope, Albion/Calvin, Rowan/WPU, Chicago/WashU, UW-Eau Claire/UW-Stevens Point, and UW-EC and UW-Platteville.

Your homework is due tommorow afternoon.  I get home around 3:30. 

I always turn my work in early; it intimidates the other students! 

You must have missed the paragraph under Sac's post hopefan.

I don't believe the NJAC has ever had a team in the D-3 hoops top 25

[sac]

Well done DC.......I'd forgotten abou the years with the ODAC and UAA schools.

Interesting stuff.

I also don't recall Albion and Calvin both being ranked so high.  Short term memory I guess.

[David Collinge]

Good research.  I found two more weeks in the 00-01 season.
2000-01 Week 13: UAA (Chicago 3, WashU 4), NCAC (Wittenberg 2, Wooster 5)
2000-01 Week 12: UAA (Chicago 3, WashU 4), NCAC (Wooster 1, Wittenberg 5)

We had to play at WashU and Chicago between week 12 and week 13 that year--I guess it left an impression.

Nice catch; thanks.     For some reason, I had the UAA teams listed (incorrectly) in my database as 2001-02.  So that means the total for 2 conferences with two teams each in the top 5 is 11, but the total for one conference with two teams in the top 5 is unchanged (59)...unless and until someone else finds another error! 

I found four more instances of NJAC teams being ranked in the top 25 at the same time.

02-03 Week 7 WPU and MSU
02-23 Final Ramapo and MSU
03-04 Week 1 Ramapo and MSU
03-04 Week 2 Ramapo and MSU

You must have missed the paragraph under Sac's post hopefan.

I don't believe the NJAC has ever had a team in the D-3 hoops top 25

For the record, the NJAC had two teams in the top 5 in week 10 of 1999-2000 (Rowan #3, WPU #5.)  There have been 8 weeks where there were two NJAC teams in the top 25, and another 13 where there were three NJAC teams in the top 25.  If you mean to say that you don't think there's ever been an NJAC team in the top 5, that's also quite wrong; it's happened 14 times in 13 polls, starting with the very first poll which had WPU ranked #3.  So I'm really not sure what you're saying here, KS.

[Knightstalker]

The NJAC not having a team in the top 25 was a typo, I meant top 5 and I was going from memory as I was at work and did not have time to go further back then I did.

I also think I looked at some womens polls because I wasn't paying attention to details, I forgot that Pat quite often alternates them on the Top 25 page, probably based on which one he gets all the submissions for and compiles first.

WPU is the only NJAC team to finish in the top five though.  I actually forgot all about the Horace Jenkins teams.