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Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2014, 02:33:48 PM
Have we seen anything about whether their absence is temporary?

Well Hammond has only played in 7 games this year, the other guard Ewing has missed the last two games.  A search of the Marietta site and local papers has revealed no clues.  They are both still on the roster.

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Quote from: hplc2222 on January 12, 2014, 11:39:08 AM
Another way to look at it could be there are 46 teams with no more than 2 losses and 6 teams with 3 losses in the Top 25.

I'm going to say Babson drops out, everyone else stays in.

any opinions?

Well, I think the only teams that could move into top 25 this week is Albertus Magnus and Wheaton (because of their win vs Augustana). So, if those two teams move out, I think Ohio Wesleyan and Babson fall out. If only one of those two teams make it, then Babson falls out. I think there will be a lot of movement between 13 and 22, teams shifting spots.

hplc2222

oglethorpe just won in double overtime at Rhodes to go to 13-1

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How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1623UW-Stevens Point14-0won at UW-Stout, 61-60; won at UW-Superior, 86-69
#2576Wooster12-1won at Kenyon, 92-52
#3571Illinois Wesleyan12-2LOST at #12 Augustana, 73-81; won at North Park, 74-57
#4563Cabrini11-0def. Cairn, 91-51; def. Centenary (N.J.), 96-72
#5525Williams11-2won at Trinity (Conn.), 80-60; LOST at #8 Amherst, 73-84
#6464WPI12-1won at #34 Springfield, 81-61; def. T#36 MIT, 59-47
#7438Washington U.10-2def. Chicago, 80-69
#8422Amherst10-2def. T#45 Eastern Connecticut, 94-81; def. Hamilton, 91-73; def. #5 Williams, 84-73
#9398Wittenberg12-1def. #22 Ohio Wesleyan, 62-60; def. Hiram, 80-79
#10385UW-Whitewater12-2won at UW-Oshkosh, 86-55; def. UW-Eau Claire, 90-51
#11375St. Thomas9-2def. St. Olaf, 62-61; won at St. Mary's (Minn.), 87-58
#12343Augustana12-2def. #3 Illinois Wesleyan, 81-73; LOST at #28 Wheaton (Ill.), 63-66
#13315St. Norbert11-1def. Beloit, 68-48; won at Monmouth, 81-58
#14278Christopher Newport10-3LOST to #16 Wesley, 46-64; LOST at Penn State-Harrisburg, 60-63
#15269Virginia Wesleyan10-3LOST at Bridgewater (Va.), 65-78; def. Randolph, 75-46
#16213Wesley11-1won at Washington College, 66-51; won at #14 Christopher Newport, 64-46; def. #17 Mary Washington, 68-67
#17149Mary Washington11-2won at Salisbury, 75-70; LOST at #16 Wesley, 67-68
#18139SUNY-Purchase10-0won at Mount St. Mary, 81-66; def. Manhattanville, 82-64
#19135Marietta10-3LOST at Ohio Northern, 73-78; def. Baldwin Wallace, 97-86
#20103Messiah12-0def. Lycoming, 79-76; def. Alvernia, 89-78
#2190St. Mary's (Md.)10-3def. Frostburg State, 97-54; won at Southern Virginia, 84-49
#2277Ohio Wesleyan10-3LOST at #9 Wittenberg, 60-62; won at Allegheny, 76-64
#2375Richard Stockton11-2def. Rutgers-Camden, 76-61; LOST at Montclair State, 69-70
#2470Bowdoin12-0def. Bridgewater State, 64-59; def. Connecticut College, 64-47; def. Wesleyan, 63-54
#2561Babson10-3def. Emerson, 72-44; LOST to #34 Springfield, 81-89


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2657Albertus Magnus10-1def. Norwich, 97-85; won at Rivier, 93-82; won at Suffolk, 94-73
#2753Calvin9-4won at Alma, 90-82; LOST to Hope, 63-71
#2837Wheaton (Ill.)10-4def. Elmhurst, 93-68; def. #12 Augustana, 66-63
#2935Oglethorpe13-1won at Hendrix, 70-69; won at Rhodes, 73-72
#3034Whitworth10-3def. Pacific Lutheran, 76-73; def. Puget Sound, 60-49
#3131Brockport State8-1won at Potsdam State, 75-57; won at Plattsburgh State, 85-78
#3230Middlebury7-5LOST to Plattsburgh State, 47-63; LOST to Bates, 61-64; def. Tufts, 80-66
#3322Colorado College9-2def. Austin, 68-53; def. Centenary (La.), 79-71
#3421Springfield10-3LOST to #6 WPI, 61-81; won at #25 Babson, 89-81
#3516Dickinson11-2def. Washington College, 78-66; won at Ursinus, 94-70
T#3614Birmingham-Southern7-5LOST at T#38 Emory, 61-76; LOST at Sewanee, 54-58; LOST at Centre, 71-85
T#3614MIT9-3def. Clark, 63-36; LOST at #6 WPI, 47-59
T#3812Staten Island10-2def. Lehman, 95-62; won at Medgar Evers, 113-79
T#3812Emory9-3def. T#36 Birmingham-Southern, 76-61; def. Rochester, 77-54
T#4010DePauw10-3won at Kenyon, 62-54
T#4010Texas-Dallas10-1won at LeTourneau, 80-57; won at East Texas Baptist, 84-72
T#4010William Paterson11-2won at Kean, 75-71; def. New Jersey City, 69-66
T#4010Stevenson10-3LOST at Albright, 82-89; def. Lebanon Valley, 86-72
#448Dubuque13-0def. Wartburg, 67-63; won at Central, 74-67
T#451Eastern Connecticut9-4LOST at #8 Amherst, 81-94; def. Mass-Boston, 81-60
T#451St. Vincent12-2def. Thiel, 76-69; won at Bethany, 83-77
T#451Guilford10-3won at Bridgewater (Va.), 69-60

hplc2222

Babson and Christopher Newport were the only 2 teams in the TOP 25 to lose games at home last week.

hplc2222

Time for my Top 25 guess

1) UW Stevens Point
2) Wooster
3) Cabrini
4) WPI
5) Wittenberg
6) Washinton U
7) UW Whitewater
8) Augustana
9) Illinois Wesleyan
10) Amherst
11) Williams
12) St Thomas
13) St Norbert
14) Wesley
15) Messiah
16) Mary Washington
17) Ohio Wesleyan
18) Virginia Wesleyan
19) Suny Purchase
20) Bowdoin
21) Christopher newport
22) St Marys MD.
23) Richard Stockton
24) Marietta
25) Albertus Magnus

hplc2222

The reason I am keeping Richard Stockton in the Top 25 is because they were voted in the Top 25 last week and to me that says they deserve to be there. A 1 point loss on the road to a conference rival is not that bad (and their other loss was only 2 points at William Paterson.

I say keep Richard Stockton in the Top 25 this week and see how they do. They play at home against Rowan on Wednesday and at Ramapo on Saturday. Let us see what they do this week before taking them out of the Top 25.

any opinions?

John Gleich

Quote from: hplc2222 on January 13, 2014, 09:36:37 AM
The reason I am keeping Richard Stockton in the Top 25 is because they were voted in the Top 25 last week and to me that says they deserve to be there. A 1 point loss on the road to a conference rival is not that bad (and their other loss was only 2 points at William Paterson.

I say keep Richard Stockton in the Top 25 this week and see how they do. They play at home against Rowan on Wednesday and at Ramapo on Saturday. Let us see what they do this week before taking them out of the Top 25.

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hplc2222

as of this morning of the 416 teams
undefeated - 7
1 loss - 10
2 loss - 28
3 loss - 30
4 loss - 52

= 127 teams


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You really should join the poster's poll!  :o
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Quote from: hplc2222 on January 13, 2014, 09:22:59 AM
Time for my Top 25 guess

1) UW Stevens Point
2) Wooster
3) Cabrini
4) WPI
5) Wittenberg
6) Washinton U
7) UW Whitewater
8) Augustana
9) Illinois Wesleyan
10) Amherst
11) Williams
12) St Thomas
13) St Norbert
14) Wesley
15) Messiah
16) Mary Washington
17) Ohio Wesleyan
18) Virginia Wesleyan
19) Suny Purchase
20) Bowdoin
21) Christopher newport
22) St Marys MD.
23) Richard Stockton
24) Marietta
25) Albertus Magnus

Based on the head-to-head result (http://www.cciw.org/custompages/CCIW_Links/MBasketball/Stats/1314/13iwmb6.htm), interested in your placement of Wash U and Illinois Wesleyan.  What is your thinking there? Thanks.

hplc2222

I thought I had to put Illinois Wesleyan behind Augustana because Augustana just beat them head to head. Washington U was 7, did not lose last week, they moved up 1.
makes sense?

Greek Tragedy

So IWU drops 6 spots because they lost on the road to a ranked opponent?

I understand your head to head thinking, but IWU did have a 230+ point lead on Augie.
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Brockport State improves their record to 8-1 with a pair of wins this past weekend and I think, deserves a place in the D3hoops top 25. Mr. Massey also thinks they should be ranked and not just in the Top 25.  The Massey Ratings now have them ranked at #7 in the country with a strength of schedule ranked at #44. It's not very often that you can find a team in Massey's Ratings that will be ranked that high by his system and not be found in the D3hoops Top 25. There are 8 teams in Massey's Top 25 that aren't in the D3hoops Top 25 but all of those teams with the exception of Plattsburgh at #24 and Wilmington at #21 are in the Others Receiving Votes category.  Brockport is the only team in Massey's top ten that is not ranked by D3hoops. That seems like a strange outlier.

Brockport State just beat a Plattsburgh State team, that prior to Saturday's game, Massey had ranked #18. He currently has them ranked after, their loss to Brockport at #24, with a SOS at #16 in the country. The Plattsburgh Cardinals should be Brockport's main challenger for SUNYAC supremacy, and it was the only game on Brockport's remaining schedule that Massey had predicted they would lose. Plattsburgh made it to the 2nd round of last year's NCAA tournament before falling to National Champion, Amherst, and the Cardinals returned a ton of talent, including 7 of their top 9 players, along with 4 starters. 

With an 8-1 record, all on the road and their only loss a double OT affair at D3hoops #18 SUNY-Purchase (10-0), I believe it's time the voters of this website stopped looking at teams with 3 or 4 losses and give the Golden Eagles a spot  in the Top 25. The SUNYAC has done very well this year with the non-conference portion of their schedule and the top teams in our conference have shown they can play with anybody.
 

hplc2222

I am just a novice, this is only my 2nd week doing this in my life. I am intrested to see how close I get and where my mistakes were so I can learn.
I'll go by the actualy vote