Top 25 talk

[hplc2222]

I am not a voter though. Good so Stockton should be in the Top 25 still, since the lose at MONTCLAIR WOULDNT MATTTER

I appreciate your input,.. but I could not care less

In other words, I am going to think and say what I want to ,.. but you'll never see me adress another poster on personal issues really.

Yaes I had a comment about Brockport,....... but it was in the context of what I have been saying for weeks, about wind and losses

YOUR WHOLE RESPONSE TO ME IS STATIC

DONT BOTHER IN THE FUTURE

ok

i'll make me comments and sat what I think,

you want to give an opinion about a team, and where they are, go ahead

you want to screw with a customer of D3  hoops, you should be kicked off this website

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[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Wow... where is this coming from... hplc if you are on these boards you will notice everyone converses with one another and even disagrees... that is the nature of chat boards. You put out your Top 25 and that then entertains people to question you and ask what your thinking and rationale is behind your decisions. It is par for the course. It happens to everyone. You can have your point of view and that is fine - but it doesn't mean people aren't curious as to what you decided and state if they have a problem with your thoughts. It is still your opinion... you are welcome to them. But also realize people are welcome to their opinions and if they aren't in alignment with yours... that's how the cookie crumbles.

You have been welcomed to these boards with open arms and instead you are now attacking people who have not attacked you. And I don't understand your thought about Stockton... you can do what you want with them in your opinion. You can read this more tonight or tomorrow from me... but they weren't on my ballot last week nor all season and a loss to Montclair St isn't going to garner any spot on my ballot this week. Again, I am one of 25 voters... so we will see what others think.

Relax my man... you don't need to go nuclear because people disagree or question you.

[sac]

[hplc2222]

I havnt attacked anyone, is this a nickle and dime operation? I could not care less about yoyur ballot.

Bautr no one disagreed, they arguing is Washington should move up from 7 to 6, my god man.,

thats idiotic

I havnt seen anyone else put yup a guess at the Top 25, just me.

Could that be because they will be attacked?

I am a scientist,,

no one from espn would comment about what a poster said on one of their threads

listen , lets all let it go,.......

i like to write, thats for sure,.. but to let you know, i'm not into reading others peoples opinions

especialy when they go after mine

and especialy it is riduclous we are talking about 4, 5, 6, 7 , 8, 9 pote in the Top 25

toms of games left to be played

sheesh

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

sac - I love you man!

hplc... this is a chat room so thus everyone has their opinions and thus reading people's comments is reading their opinions. And the questions are not Washington moving up a spot, but why are they so far ahead of IWU who they lost to this season. It's a valid question.

And you aren't paying attention if you think others don't put their Top 25s out there... go to the "Posters' Poll" thread in their very section (Multi-Regional Topics) and you will see many Top 25 ballots from non-Top 25 voters just like yourself. And you can go to the D3blogs to see my ballot each week of the season. In fact... I am writing mine right now and will post it tonight or tomorrow after the Top 25 is released.

[magicman]

Not so sure Brockport deserves a Top 25 this week,..... let us wait and see how many losses they have when they get to 11 wins. Their are 24 teams in the nation with at least 11 wins and no more than 2 losses. Only 15 of them were in the Top 25.

The Top 25 is never about quantity but about quality. Brockport is 8-1 and had a game postponed last week because of the snowstorms in western NY. It's not their fault that the schedule is what it is.

Look at other schools that don't have 11 wins that are in the Top 25.  St Thomas 9-2, 1 more win but also 1 more loss with an SOS of 88, twice that of Brockport's 44. Christopher Newport, Virginia Wesleyan, Marietta, St. Mary's, Ohio Wesleyan, and Babson are all 10-3. Again 2 more wins, but 2 more losses. I'd rather be 8-1 right now and have a win over my toughest conference opponent than be 10-3 and yet to face that opponent.

Brockport, regardless of the fact that they don't have your arbitrary number of 11 wins, certainly has the credentials at the present time that are equal to or better than a number of teams ranked ahead of them as the Massey Ratings suggest.

As an analogy, since you were pointing out Richard Stockton earlier and their 2 close losses.... Plattsburgh State lost to Richard Stockton down there in Stockton's tip off tournament at the beginning of the year. Originally Plattsburgh was supposed to play Alvernia on day 1 of the tournament and Stockton was to play Bridgewater State. The winners would meet the next day for the championship and the losers in the consolation game. Well Alvernia found themselves with a scheduling problem and had to pull out of the tournament, so Stockton played Bridgewater the 1st day and won. Then they were idle the next day while Plattsburgh played Bridgewater and the Cardinals won. The next day Plattsburgh had to play a well rested Stockton on the Ospreys home court and the game came down to a final possession where the Cards, down 2, were whistled for a traveling violation, while calling time out, and turned the ball over. They then had to foul and lost 78-74.

You state that you have no problem with Stockton dropping out or staying in the Top 25 but imply that they should be given another week because the losses were so close.

Brockport beat the Cardinals in Plattsburgh while Stockton barely beat them at home. If Stockton had to play a return game against Plattsburgh I'd be willing to bet on the Cardinals to turn the tables.

I happen to agree with you that Stockton should still be ranked, but Brockport was ranked ahead of Stockton in the ORV's in week #3 and week #4 and all they've done is win. I see no reason why Stockton leaped over them last week as I thought they both should have made the Top 25, but only Stockton did so.

I understand that the voters are still trying to sort out the bottom 10 to 12 spots, but when I see some teams with multiple losses and a SOS that's not as good as the Eagles then I think an adjustment is needed.           

[GnacBballFan]

I have been on this board for a yr or so as a registered user. However, I have been on the site/board for several yrs. And i can say that this board compared to other boards(my new england softball board being one example lol) is completely respectful of one another. I have never seen anyone get "picked" on. Dave you and the others do a great job. Not brown nosing, just calling it how i see it.

[hplc2222]

i DONT KNOW THAT I'M BERING PICKED ON, ALTHOUTH I CLAIMED IT,..... all i am saying is that it appewarts from a nationalo D3  stANDP[OINT, THAT THE MID WEST ANDS GREAT LAKES REGION, GETS ENORMOUS, amout od attention,...... and just becausae a guy from atlazntic fandom says  something, a ton of briocks falls on them?

gtf out of here

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Ironically... it wasn't that you had an Atlantic team in your poll but where you positions other teams that raised the questions.

Of course, I am from the Mid-Atlantic region (with a national score, of course)... just saying

[hplc2222]

dave , come on,   man, you cares where "i"{put a TEAM " i  am  nobody,... please let me enjoy this,.. and stop the arguments over whos 1-10

[sac]

[pjunito]

Isn't this what sports is all about? Debating our opinions throughout the season. Who's better, who should move up, who should move down. I have been here for a few years now and think this is a great medium to interact with other fellow d3 hoop fans. I have learned a lot about how the D3 selection process works. I have enjoyed watching great games over the years.

At every level you have teams who take longer to drop out of a top 25 poll and others who take a longer time to break in. That is just the way it is; it is a subjective poll. Brockport keeps winning and they will break the top 25 - teams like Albertus lose, they fall out.

Can't wait for this week top 25 to be revealed.

[D3HoopJunkie]

I had to hop on here and comment because of what I am reading! These board are here in the first place to encourage healthy debate and questions ones opinions which is what a sports thread like what we all participate on here is all about. I started posting officially last season and have enjoyed it from the beginning. Never once have I seen this type of conversation on any of the threads until now. We are all grown men (and women) posting our opinions on the passion that we all have for our school of choose, conference and most of all D3 basketball as a whole. I really believe that all of the posters on this website are what makes this D3 community so special. In a way we are the ones that are really spreading the word to others about D3Hoops and that is great. What Dave McHugh and Pat Coleman have done for the D3 landscape is unbelievable and I can guarantee you Mr. HPLC that neither Dave nor Titan ever wanted to make you feel this way. You provide a great deal insight with your Top 25 and if someone disagrees with you then so be it. Keep the conversation going and see what others have to say. Again that is why we are all here.

I hope this doesn't deter you from posting hplc because myself along with others really are interested in your opinion. It makes for great debate and conversation.

I too like many poster here tonight do not want to sound like I am taking a side but really its just my honest opinion and how I feel. And also as a die hard UConn fan I am sorry hplc but you are completely off when saying that people don't attack each other on thee ESPN threads. It happends daily and I have taken a number of backhanded comments and disagreements on the chin for some of the things I have posted but once again (this seems to be the common theme LOL) that is what these boards like every other is all about.

What sums this up best is what Pat Coleman has at the bottom of each of his posts that reads

"Let's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect."

[pjunito]

Junkie...

Can you really blame people for getting on UConn football this past year? Their biggest accomplishment was not getting blown out by Michigan. lol.

I kid because I love junkie...

Let's go falcons!

[hplc2222]

lol,.  thats too complicated for me read  read, let alone respond,....lol,..WHERES THE TOP 25 LIST?