Top 25 talk

[Mr. Ypsi]

Wooster, at 2-3, drops to #25.

Wow...what do you have to do get out of the poll?

Not be the second-winningest school in d3 history?

Two of their three losses are to the #2 and #3 teams in the poll, so they were supposed to lose.  It is still so early in the season that program success and history is probably more propelling the poll than 2009 results (unless they are incredibly good or bad).

I don't care who you've played, 2-3 teams shouldn't be ranked.

Personally, I wouldn't have had them on my ballot, but they also started last season 2-3 (and finished 23-7).

Yet another reason I don't start the Posters' Poll until January!

[Ralph Turner]

Karma for running the Posters' Poll!   

[Pat Coleman]

Because others fell and the Top 25 went through a major shake-up!

Chicago's 4-0 and received 2 votes, think they'd be top 25 if they were in the CCIW?

Probably a bigger factor is how they turned off the voters with their performance last season.

[Pat Coleman]

Wooster, at 2-3, drops to #25.

Wow...what do you have to do get out of the poll?

Not be the second-winningest school in d3 history?

Two of their three losses are to the #2 and #3 teams in the poll, so they were supposed to lose.  It is still so early in the season that program success and history is probably more propelling the poll than 2009 results (unless they are incredibly good or bad).

I don't care who you've played, 2-3 teams shouldn't be ranked.

The voters care. And they always have cared this way. Heck -- four out of the five games Wooster has played proved the poll right. That other one is the reason they fell from No. 9 to No. 25. Big price to pay for one game.

[Gregory Sager]

It is interesting how it all works.  I noticed that Whitworth fell out of the rankings even though their only loss was versus UW-Stevens Point.  It does seem that if Whitworth had scheduled a few local teams, regardless of the quality, they would have, like Illinois Wesleyan, moved up in the rankings.  The problem is that they have only played two games.  I am not sure how you reconcile that issue.

Yeah, but Whitworth's loss was of epic proportions. That may explain why the pollsters dropped the Pirates out of the Top 25. If you're ranked in the bottom ten of the Top 25 and you lose by 22 to another D3 team that traveled halfway across the country to play you, a loss in which you were down by 37 points late before the other coach called off the dogs, and your only chance to redeem yourself since that debacle ended up being a six-point win over the UCSC Banana Slugs -- a program that has never put fear into the hearts of anyone besides gastropodophobes -- you're probably likely to get bounced out of the Top 25. To sum up, very bad loss plus no adequate redemption plus beginning of the season equals no ranking.

I wouldn't worry about Whitworth, though, any more than I'd worry about Wooster. The Pirates are a program that always seems to be in contention for either the NWC's Pool A bid or a Pool C at-large bid, and I doubt that this year is any different. In fact, they have a chance this weekend in St. Louis to make the D3 world forget all about that UWSP disaster if they wind up facing Wallis, Thompson & Co. on Saturday in the Lopata title game.

Incidentally, you can apply that bad-loss argument to Wooster, too. It's one thing to start the season 2-3; it's another thing entirely to lose by 31 points in your own gym to another D3 school. Yeah, it was a Top Five team, but even Top Five teams shouldn't be able to smoke a Top 25 team like that in its own gym -- and in that game Wooster was smoked, salted, and hung up in the meat locker.

I think that there is a real marketing opportunity here for George Foreman.

I can see it now,  The Big Green Weenie Grilling Machine!

You might want to shy away from marketing, Ralph.  Somehow grilling Green Weenies doesn't seem like a hit!  (Well, might have to make an exception for CardAlum! 8))

I could see them catching on with the Dr. Seuss crowd:

I would eat them in a house,
I would eat them with a mouse.
I would eat them in a box,
I would eat them in my socks.
I do like green weenies and ham,
I do like them, Sam I Am!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Greg,

While green eggs doesn't exactly fire up my gastric juices, the mere thought of grilling green weenies makes me want to dial 911.

[John Gleich]

Yeah, but Whitworth's loss was of epic proportions. That may explain why the pollsters dropped the Pirates out of the Top 25. If you're ranked in the bottom ten of the Top 25 and you lose by 22 to another D3 team that traveled halfway across the country to play you, a loss in which you were down by 37 points late before the other coach called off the dogs -- you're probably likely to get bounced out of the Top 25. To sum up, very bad loss plus no adequate redemption plus beginning of the season equals no ranking.

Yeah, when you (Whitworth) outscore a team 22-7 in the last 7:20 and STILL get beat by 22, you know you were getting whipped!  I honestly was wondering how many points SP was going to score in that game.  They hit 90 with over 8 and a half minutes to go in the game!

[magicman]

Greg,

While green eggs doesn't exactly fire up my gastric juices, the mere thought of grilling green weenies makes me want to dial 911.

You obviously never belonged to a fraternity whose colors were green and white and every St Paddy's day went crazy with the green food coloring at the annual keg party. Green eggs, green beer, green clams. You even had to take a pill to get into the party so that when you took a whizz for the next 2 days even that was green    

[Hugenerd]

Did this "pill" actually make your urine green, or did it do other things, including making you think your pee was green?

Greg,

While green eggs doesn't exactly fire up my gastric juices, the mere thought of grilling green weenies makes me want to dial 911.

You obviously never belonged to a fraternity whose colors were green and white and every St Paddy's day went crazy with the green food coloring at the annual keg party. Green eggs, green beer, green clams. You even had to take a pill to get into the party so that when you took a whizz for the next 2 days even that was green    

[magicman]

Did this "pill" actually make your urine green, or did it do other things, including making you think your pee was green?

Greg,

While green eggs doesn't exactly fire up my gastric juices, the mere thought of grilling green weenies makes me want to dial 911.

You obviously never belonged to a fraternity whose colors were green and white and every St Paddy's day went crazy with the green food coloring at the annual keg party. Green eggs, green beer, green clams. You even had to take a pill to get into the party so that when you took a whizz for the next 2 days even that was green    

No psychedelics involved. Just a common chlorophyll tablet. But later that night when you went downtown to the college watering holes and took a whizz, the stranger standing at the urinal next to you sure thought he was hallucinating when he saw a stream of green.

[Gregory Sager]

Did this "pill" actually make your urine green, or did it do other things, including making you think your pee was green?

Greg,

While green eggs doesn't exactly fire up my gastric juices, the mere thought of grilling green weenies makes me want to dial 911.

You obviously never belonged to a fraternity whose colors were green and white and every St Paddy's day went crazy with the green food coloring at the annual keg party. Green eggs, green beer, green clams. You even had to take a pill to get into the party so that when you took a whizz for the next 2 days even that was green    

No psychedelics involved. Just a common chlorophyll tablet. But later that night when you went downtown to the college watering holes and took a whizz, the stranger standing at the urinal next to you sure thought he was hallucinating when he saw a stream of green.

There's a leprechaun joke in there somewhere, but I'm not sure I want to be the one to think it up.

[TeeDub]

...  I honestly was wondering how many points SP was going to score in that game.  They hit 90 with over 8 and a half minutes to go in the game!

Are they running "The System" at SP now? 

[Squasher88]

GO DIPS!! We're going all the way baby! Georgio was on fire against Ursinus last night...great win!

[BJ - DSU SID]

To All:

With some help from others...my curiosity led me to compiling a list of teams with the Most Wins since the 2002-03 season.  I started at 02-03 because DeSales (in PA) started a string of six 20+ win seasons in that seven year time frame and I wanted to see where it ranked among all Division III Men's basketball teams.

If someone would be so kind as to check my numbers to see if (A) I forgot anyone and (B) my win totals are correct.

Thanks in advance - here is the list

School - Wins (since 02-03 season)
1 - Wooster - 184
2 - Amherst - 183
3 - Stevens Point - 172
4 - Hope - 162
5 - Virginia Wesleyan - 160
6 - Salem St. - 158
7 - Mississippi College - 157
8t - St. John Fisher - 155
8t - Washington U. - 155
8t - Buena Vista - 155
11 - DeSales - 151

[Hugenerd]

To All:

With some help from others...my curiosity led me to compiling a list of teams with the Most Wins since the 2002-03 season.  I started at 02-03 because DeSales (in PA) started a string of six 20+ win seasons in that seven year time frame and I wanted to see where it ranked among all Division III Men's basketball teams.

If someone would be so kind as to check my numbers to see if (A) I forgot anyone and (B) my win totals are correct.

Thanks in advance - here is the list

School - Wins (since 02-03 season)
1 - Wooster - 184
2 - Amherst - 183
3 - Stevens Point - 172
4 - Hope - 162
5 - Virginia Wesleyan - 160
6 - Salem St. - 158
7 - Mississippi College - 157
8t - St. John Fisher - 155
8t - Washington U. - 155
8t - Buena Vista - 155
11 - DeSales - 151

Does this count postseason?