Top 25 talk

[Rhodes Scholar]

Good to see you back in the national rooms, Rhodes!

Thanks, Greg. However I'm doing more lurking now than posting.

[dc_has_been]

Here's a little info on Southern Virginia University, the only team to defeat Eastern Mennonite this year:

They're an NAIA 2 independent, with a 10-4 record. Two of those losses were to NCAA D1 opponents (Liberty and Campbell). SVU is 5-1 against D3 teams this year:

Bridgewater, VA (4-8) W, 91-65
vs. Wesley (7-6) @ CNU W, 76-71
at CNU (6-7) L, 93-82 (OT)
@ Shenandoah (4-11) W, 82-79
EMU (12-1) W, 92-79
Shenandoah (4-11) W, 93-79

EMU has a return game at home with SVU on January 28.

What were the scores to their losses to Liberty and Campbell, and is CNU Christopher Newport(think that's the schools name)?

[WUPHF]

I believe that I once read a suggestion that people post live video feeds for Top 25 teams or maybe it was conference specific.

And, this may have already been posted here, but I was searching around on the Washington University website and discovered that Stretch Internet, the video provider for a host of schools, posts a list of all Stretch audio and video feeds on a daily basis.  This may help feed your basketball addition: http://secure.stretchinternet.com/broadcasts.php?time=1264060800

Of course, a lot of the video feeds to come with a charge.

[hasanova]

Here's a little info on Southern Virginia University, the only team to defeat Eastern Mennonite this year:

They're an NAIA 2 independent, with a 10-4 record. Two of those losses were to NCAA D1 opponents (Liberty and Campbell). SVU is 5-1 against D3 teams this year:

Bridgewater, VA (4-8) W, 91-65
vs. Wesley (7-6) @ CNU W, 76-71
at CNU (6-7) L, 93-82 (OT)
@ Shenandoah (4-11) W, 82-79
EMU (12-1) W, 92-79
Shenandoah (4-11) W, 93-79

EMU has a return game at home with SVU on January 28.

What were the scores to their losses to Liberty and Campbell, and is CNU Christopher Newport(think that's the schools name)?

Yes, CNU is Christopher Newport from the USA South Conference.

[Hugenerd]

Dave, I'm refering to WashingtonU's loss to Transy.  The rest of the top 25 have losses to teams in the top 25 except St. Thomas, but even their losses are to teams in the top 25 or receiving votes category.  So I guess I'm wondering where you would put WashU in your poll?

Correction, Eastern Mennonite and MIT have not lost to any D3 teams yet.

hugenerd, my bad, I  meant to put the top 5.  I'm not sure about the rest of the 20 teams and who their losses are to.  

Dave, thanks for letting me in on the info.  
IMO, I would have UWSP at the #1 considering their loss did come to UWW, but still it was at UWW place and a game that went to OT.  Since then they've pretty much dominated their competition having the smallest margin of victory being 6 points. I would put UWW at the #2, Guilford 3 only losing to Virginia Wesleyan at VW's place by 3, Wash U 4 and Virginia 5 to make thing interesting for Saturday.  And that would be my top 5 and two cents!

No big deal.  I believe there are only 3 teams left that are undefeated against D3 (no undefeated overall with the two losses yesterday, according to the undefeated board).  Eastern Mennonite only has the loss to Southern Virginia listed previously on this board and MIT has only lost to D1 Harvard.  Linfield has only played 4 D3 games and is 6-6 overall (and therefore unranked).  Eastern Mennonite and MIT are the only ranked undefeated vs. D3 teams left.

[Hugenerd]

F&M falls to previously 5-5 Washington College on their own court, 68-63 (in OT).  This is F&M's 3rd loss to an unranked opponent.

[hasanova]

Here's a little info on Southern Virginia University, the only team to defeat Eastern Mennonite this year:

They're an NAIA 2 independent, with a 10-4 record. Two of those losses were to NCAA D1 opponents (Liberty and Campbell). SVU is 5-1 against D3 teams this year:

Bridgewater, VA (4-8) W, 91-65
vs. Wesley (7-6) @ CNU W, 76-71
at CNU (6-7) L, 93-82 (OT)
@ Shenandoah (4-11) W, 82-79
EMU (12-1) W, 92-79
Shenandoah (4-11) W, 93-79

EMU has a return game at home with SVU on January 28.

What were the scores to their losses to Liberty and Campbell, and is CNU Christopher Newport(think that's the schools name)?

http://athletics.svu.edu/sports/mbkb/2009-10/schedule

Southern Virginia lost to Liberty, 89-53, and to Campbell, 86-58.

[magicman]

Texas-Dallas edges East Texas Baptist 73-70 to hang on to their spot in the Top 25.

[magicman]

With 7 losses already this week in the Top 25 and at least 2 more to come because of ranked teams matched up against each other there will be some significant changes once again in next week's poll. #24 LaCrosse, #19 Medaille, #15 Wilmington, #13 Amherst and #11 Franklin & Marshall will all take a tumble, the question is how far will they fall. There is a possibility that all 5 could drop into the ORV category. And with another loss, Brandeis (next up Wash U), Mississippi College (next up Texas-Tyler), and Texas-Dallas (next up LeTourneau) could join them. Texas-Dallas almost punched their ticket into the ORV tonight but hit 3 straight 3 pointers to break loose from a 57 all tie with East Texas Baptist and hold on for the victory.

Bubbling under the Top 25 are a bunch of teams looking to either move back in or crack the poll for the 1st time this year. Best chance for firsters if they win out for the week could be William Patterson currently 14-1 but a big game upcoming on Sat. against Richard Stockton. If they beat the Ospreys I think they move into the poll with a 15-1 record. Their only loss was to a pretty good Oneonta State team that Massey has ranked at #49, better than 10 other teams that are ranked or recieving votes. Massey has William Patterson currently ranked #18. St John Fisher would be another 1st timer that could make the leap if they win the Wendy's Classic in Rochester (formerly known as the Chase Classic) this weekend. They would end the week with a 13-2 record if that happens. Massey currently has them ranked at #26. Wheaton (Ill.), and Wooster, with 1 win for the week and Richard Stockton with 2 wins for the week all have 1 game remaining on Saturday. A win then, by any of these 3 teams, could vault them back up into the rankings.

Assuming they win their weekend games it looks like the top spot will be Stevens Point, followed by Washington U, Whitewater and probably Guilford. If Eastern Mennonite hadn't been so far down in the rankings their signature win on Wednesday night might have boosted them into the top 3 or 4 but I think the 5 spot is as high as they'll climb, if they get lucky. Not a lot of tradition there and we all know about the name recognition factor and the importance it plays. It'll be interesting to see their placement in next week's poll.

[Hugenerd]

With 7 losses already this week in the Top 25 and at least 2 more to come because of ranked teams matched up against each other there will be some significant changes once again in next week's poll. #24 LaCrosse, #19 Medaille, #15 Wilmington, #13 Amherst and #11 Franklin & Marshall will all take a tumble, the question is how far will they fall. There is a possibility that all 5 could drop into the ORV category. And with another loss, Brandeis (next up Wash U), Mississippi College (next up Texas-Tyler), and Texas-Dallas (next up LeTourneau) could join them. Texas-Dallas almost punched their ticket into the ORV tonight but hit 3 straight 3 pointers to break loose from a 57 all tie with East Texas Baptist and hold on for the victory.

Bubbling under the Top 25 are a bunch of teams looking to either move back in or crack the poll for the 1st time this year. Best chance for firsters if they win out for the week could be William Patterson currently 14-1 but a big game upcoming on Sat. against Richard Stockton. If they beat the Ospreys I think they move into the poll with a 15-1 record. Their only loss was to a pretty good Oneonta State team that Massey has ranked at #49, better than 10 other teams that are ranked or recieving votes. Massey has William Patterson currently ranked #18. St John Fisher would be another 1st timer that could make the leap if they win the Wendy's Classic in Rochester (formerly known as the Chase Classic) this weekend. They would end the week with a 13-2 record if that happens. Massey currently has them ranked at #26. Wheaton (Ill.), and Wooster, with 1 win for the week and Richard Stockton with 2 wins for the week all have 1 game remaining on Saturday. A win then, by any of these 3 teams, could vault them back up into the rankings.

Assuming they win their weekend games it looks like the top spot will be Stevens Point, followed by Wasington U, Whitewater and probably Guilford. If Eastern Mennonite hadn't been so far down in the rankings their signature win on Wednesday night might have boosted them into the top 3 or 4 but I think the 5 spot is as high as they'll climb, if they get lucky. Not a lot of tradition there and we all know about the name recognition factor and the importance it plays. It'll be interesting to see their placement in next week's poll.

What about Gustavus?

[David Collinge]

Wheaton (Ill.), and Wooster, with 1 win for the week and Richard Stockton with 2 wins for the week all have 1 game remaining on Saturday. A win then, by any of these 3 teams, could vault them back up into the rankings.

Wooster could well slide back into the bottom of the Top 25 this week, but if they do, it'll be through attrition, and not because they managed to beat Earlham (3-11) Saturday.  The last time Earlham beat Wooster was in January 1986, two seasons before Steve Moore took over the Fighting Scot program; since then, Wooster has racked up 44 consecutive wins over the Quakers. 

Anyway, it seems that the voters are getting comfortable with holding Wooster just under the Top 25, as they've been in would-be slots #26 or #27 for three straight weeks as other schools slide up and down past them.  With a trip to Wittenberg looming for the Scots in just over a week (and before the Week 8 poll is taken), I'd expect Wooster to stay right about where they are for Week 7.

[Ralph Turner]

UT-Dallas' Brandon Green (Sr- 3VL 10.6 ppg) is reported to have a broken hand.  The website has him inactive.

He has only started in the first 9 games and have not played in the last five.  His last game was 35 minutes against McMurry on Dec 20th.  He did not play in the 72-64 loss to UT-Arlington on Jan 2nd.

If UT-Dallas is doing that without Brandon Green, then keep UT-Dallas on the radar.

Green and UT-D Scott Rodgers are 2 of my starters on my All-ASC opponent team.

[magicman]

hugenerd,
Yes , the Gusties should be in the mix as well. I knew I left out someone. As discussed on the Poster's Poll board no really bad losses and now a signature win. Massey has them at #16 which is a little high I think, but there's certainly no reason not to move them up in the poll. They need to get by Bethal on Saturday but shouldn't have a problem doing that.

[magicman]

Wheaton (Ill.), and Wooster, with 1 win for the week and Richard Stockton with 2 wins for the week all have 1 game remaining on Saturday. A win then, by any of these 3 teams, could vault them back up into the rankings.

Wooster could well slide back into the bottom of the Top 25 this week, but if they do, it'll be through attrition, and not because they managed to beat Earlham (3-11) Saturday.  The last time Earlham beat Wooster was in January 1986, two seasons before Steve Moore took over the Fighting Scot program; since then, Wooster has racked up 44 consecutive wins over the Quakers.  

DC,
All the more reason they had better win Saturday. Another loss and their chances of getting back in are pretty slim, but a loss to 3-11 Earlham is the kiss of death. The re-entrance by attrition part has likely already happened, because of all of the teams that have lost this week. But the winning on Saturday has yet to occur. But I have no doubt the Scots will keep that streak alive.

Wow!!  44 straight over the same team. Is that a current  "longest win streak against a single opponent" record?

[David Collinge]

Wow!!  44 straight over the same team. Is that a current  "longest win streak against a single opponent" record?

I can think of seven team in the SCIAC that probably have longer streaks going...