Top 25 talk

[Titan Q]

Running list of other 2010-11 preseason Top 25 candidates, as suggested by posters here...



Amherst (14-11 overall, 3-6 NESCAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) G Conor Meehan, 6-4 SR (14.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 6.2 apg), F Jeff Holmes, 6-7 JR (9.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg), G Taylor Barisse, 6-5 JR (8.2 ppg, 4.4 rpg), G/F David Waller, 6-6 JR (7.8 ppg, 4.6 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G/F Steven Wheeler, 6-6 (14.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Willy Workman, 6-6 SO (6.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg)


Augustana (16-10 overall, 9-5 CCIW) – Midwest
Starters Returning: (4) F Kyle Nelson, 6-9 SR (14.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg), PG Brian DeSimone, 6-1 JR (6.7 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.3 apg), G Troy Rorer, 6-2 JR (6.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg), F Brandon Kunz, 6-7 SO (4.7 ppg, 3.3 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G Matt Pelton, 6-3 (12.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Chris Anderson, 6-4 JR (7.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg)


Buena Vista (15-12 overall, 10-6 IIAC) – West
Starters Returning: (3) G Troy Ticknor, 6-1 SO (12.4 ppg, 2.1 rpg), F/C Doug Bissen, 6-7 JR (11.7 ppg, 6.4 rpg), F Wes Nordquist, 6-7 SO (11.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg)

Starters Lost: (2) G/F Nathan Parker, 6-4 (10.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg), G Kevin Osborn, 6-0 (3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Jeff Janssen, 6-4 JR (8.9 ppg, 1.8 rpg)


Calvin (19-9 overall, 12-2 MIAA) – Great Lakes
Starters Returning: (3) F Danny Rodts, 6-6 SR (9.8 ppg, 4.4 rpg), F Tom Snikkers, 6-4 SO (8.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg), G Trent Salo, 5-9 SR (5.3 ppg, 1.7 rpg)

Starters Lost: (2) C John Mantel, 6-9 (14.5 ppg, 7.5 rpg), F Matt Veltema, 6-6 (12.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Brad Schnyders, 6-6 SR (6.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg)


DePauw (20-8 overall, 11-5 SCAC) – South
Starters Returning: (2) G Steve Lemasters, 6-3 SR (12.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg), G Sean Hasely, 6-3 JR (11.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg)

Starters Lost: (3) G Tony James, 5-10 (10.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 4.3 apg), F Tom Callen, 6-4 (8.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg), F David Gray, 6-6 (4.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Drew Wills, 6-3 SR (6.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg)


Hope (21-8 overall, 11-3 MIAA) – Great Lakes
Starters Returning: (4) G Peter Bunn, 6-2 SR (16.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg), F Will Bowser, 6-5 SR (12.1 ppg, 5.8 rpg), F Andy Venema, 6-8 SR (9.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg), G David Krombeen, 6-3 JR (6.8 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 3.8 apg)

Starters Lost: (1) C Chris Nelis, 6-4 (12.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Nate Snuggerud, 6-5 SO (6.1 ppg, 4.8 rpg)


Loras (15-11 overall, 10-6 IIAC) – West
Starters Returning: (4) F Tim Kelly, 6-4 JR (13.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg) G Mike Gleason, 6-2 SR (11.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg), G Connor Mooney, 5-10 SO (11.4 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 4.2 apg), F Jordan Harrelson, 6-4 JR (5.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) F Alex Brant (5.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: C Dan Pawelski, 6-9 JR (9.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg)


Manchester (17-10 overall, 10-6 HCAC) – Midwest
Starters Returning: (5) G Mitch Schaefer, 6-4 SR (11.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg), G/F Tyler Henn, 6-5 SR (9.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg), G Jordan Moss, 6-4 JR (9.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg), G Nathan Ferch, 6-3 SR (8.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg), C Jason Spindler, 6-10 JR (7.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg)

Starters Lost: none

Top Returning Reserve: G Tyler Delauder, 6-1 SR (8.0 ppg, 2.4 rpg)


MIT (22-5 overall, 10-2 NEWMAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) F Noel Hollingsworth, 6-9 JR (20.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg), G Mitchell Kates, 6-1 SO (13.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 4.1 apg), F Will Tashman, 6-8 SO (8.7 ppg, 7.2 rpg), G Eric Zuk, 6-5 SR (1.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) Billy Johnson (8.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Jimmy Burke, 5-11 SO (9.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg)


Ramapo (18-9 overall, 7-6 NJAC) – Atlantic
Starters Returning: (4) F/C LaQuan Peterkin, 6-6 JR (15.4 ppg, 7.8 rpg), G Anthony LoRusso, 6-1 JR (9.1 ppg, 1.6 rpg), G Garret Thiel, 6-2 JR (8.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg), F Davian Plunkett, 6-6 JR (8.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G Andre Kenny, 6-3 (15.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 4.1 apg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Stephon Treadwell, 6-5 SO (4.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg)


Plattsburgh State (21-8 overall, 13-5 SUNYAC) – East
Starters Returning: (4) G Chris Ruiz, 6-4 SR (17.2 ppg, 5.7 rpg), G Steve Thomas, 6-4 SR (17.1 ppg, 6.6 rpg), F Errol Daniyan, 6-6 SR (15.2 ppg, 8.3 rpg), G Carl Munnerlyn, 5-9 SR (11.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) F Farris Thomas, 6-5 (4.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg)

Top Returning ReserveL F RJ Ponesse, 6-10 SR (3.6 ppg, 2.3 rpg)


WPI (20-7 overall, 7-5 NEWMAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) G Jeffrey Robinson, 6-1 SR (19.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg), G Kyle Nadeau, 5-8 SR (9.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.0 apg), F Ben Etten, 6-4 SR (9.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg), C Matt Carr, 6-7 JR (5.9 ppg, 4.1 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) C Bennett Lessard, 6-8 (3.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Fernando Perez, 6-3 JR (11.1 ppg, 7.0 rpg)

[Titan Q]

Here is how my ballot seems to be sorting out as of today...

#1
* UW-Stevens Point

#2 through #6 (alphabetical order - very little separation)
* Carthage
* Eastern Mennonite
* Illinois Wesleyan
* Randolph-Macon
* Wooster

#7 - #9 (alphabetical order - very little separation)
* Franklin & Marshall
* John Carroll
* St. Norbert

#10 through #14 (alphabetical - very little separation)
* Anderson
* Middlebury
* St. Mary's
* Virginia Wesleyan
* Williams

#15 through #25 (somewhat in order of how I'd rank today)
* Hope
* MIT
* WPI
* Plattsburgh State
* Manchester
* Augustana
* UW-Whitewater
* St. Thomas
* Loras
* Ramapo
* Amherst


If we're missing any legitimate Top 25 candidates, please post.

[RustCollege]

Running list of other 2010-11 preseason Top 25 candidates, as suggested by posters here...



Amherst (14-11 overall, 3-6 NESCAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) G Conor Meehan, 6-4 SR (14.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 6.2 apg), F Jeff Holmes, 6-7 JR (9.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg), G Taylor Barisse, 6-5 JR (8.2 ppg, 4.4 rpg), G/F David Waller, 6-6 JR (7.8 ppg, 4.6 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G/F Steven Wheeler, 6-6 (14.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Willy Workman, 6-6 SO (6.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg)


Augustana (16-10 overall, 9-5 CCIW) – Midwest
Starters Returning: (4) F Kyle Nelson, 6-9 SR (14.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg), PG Brian DeSimone, 6-1 JR (6.7 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.3 apg), G Troy Rorer, 6-2 JR (6.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg), F Brandon Kunz, 6-7 SO (4.7 ppg, 3.3 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G Matt Pelton, 6-3 (12.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Chris Anderson, 6-4 JR (7.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg)


Buena Vista (15-12 overall, 10-6 IIAC) – West
Starters Returning: (3) G Troy Ticknor, 6-1 SO (12.4 ppg, 2.1 rpg), F/C Doug Bissen, 6-7 JR (11.7 ppg, 6.4 rpg), F Wes Nordquist, 6-7 SO (11.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg)

Starters Lost: (2) G/F Nathan Parker, 6-4 (10.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg), G Kevin Osborn, 6-0 (3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Jeff Janssen, 6-4 JR (8.9 ppg, 1.8 rpg)


Calvin (19-9 overall, 12-2 MIAA) – Great Lakes
Starters Returning: (3) F Danny Rodts, 6-6 SR (9.8 ppg, 4.4 rpg), F Tom Snikkers, 6-4 SO (8.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg), G Trent Salo, 5-9 SR (5.3 ppg, 1.7 rpg)

Starters Lost: (2) C John Mantel, 6-9 (14.5 ppg, 7.5 rpg), F Matt Veltema, 6-6 (12.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Brad Schnyders, 6-6 SR (6.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg)


DePauw (20-8 overall, 11-5 SCAC) – South
Starters Returning: (2) G Steve Lemasters, 6-3 SR (12.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg), G Sean Hasely, 6-3 JR (11.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg)

Starters Lost: (3) G Tony James, 5-10 (10.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 4.3 apg), F Tom Callen, 6-4 (8.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg), F David Gray, 6-6 (4.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Drew Wills, 6-3 SR (6.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg)


Hope (21-8 overall, 11-3 MIAA) – Great Lakes
Starters Returning: (4) G Peter Bunn, 6-2 SR (16.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg), F Will Bowser, 6-5 SR (12.1 ppg, 5.8 rpg), F Andy Venema, 6-8 SR (9.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg), G David Krombeen, 6-3 JR (6.8 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 3.8 apg)

Starters Lost: (1) C Chris Nelis, 6-4 (12.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Nate Snuggerud, 6-5 SO (6.1 ppg, 4.8 rpg)


Loras (15-11 overall, 10-6 IIAC) – West
Starters Returning: (4) F Tim Kelly, 6-4 JR (13.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg) G Mike Gleason, 6-2 SR (11.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg), G Connor Mooney, 5-10 SO (11.4 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 4.2 apg), F Jordan Harrelson, 6-4 JR (5.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg)

Starters Lost: F Alex Brant (5.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: C Dan Pawelski, 6-9 JR (9.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg)


Manchester (17-10 overall, 10-6 HCAC) – Midwest
Starters Returning: (5) G Mitch Schaefer, 6-4 SR (11.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg), G/F Tyler Henn, 6-5 SR (9.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg), G Jordan Moss, 6-4 JR (9.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg), G Nathan Ferch, 6-3 SR (8.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg), C Jason Spindler, 6-10 JR (7.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg)

Starters Lost: none

Top Returning Reserve: G Tyler Delauder, 6-1 SR (8.0 ppg, 2.4 rpg)


MIT (22-5 overall, 10-2 NEWMAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) F Noel Hollingsworth, 6-9 JR (20.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg), G Mitchell Kates, 6-1 SO (13.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 4.1 apg), F Will Tashman, 6-8 SO (8.7 ppg, 7.2 rpg), G Eric Zuk, 6-5 SR (1.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg)

Starters Lost: Billy Johnson (8.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Jimmy Burke, 5-11 SO (9.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg)


Ramapo (18-9 overall, 7-6 NJAC) – Atlantic
Starters Returning: (4) F/C LaQuan Peterkin, 6-6 JR (15.4 ppg, 7.8 rpg), G Anthony LoRusso, 6-1 JR (9.1 ppg, 1.6 rpg), G Garret Thiel, 6-2 JR (8.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg), F Davian Plunkett, 6-6 JR (8.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G Andre Kenny, 6-3 (15.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 4.1 apg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Stephon Treadwell, 6-5 SO (4.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg)


Plattsburgh State (21-8 overall, 13-5 SUNYAC) – East
Starters Returning: (4) G Chris Ruiz, 6-4 SR (17.2 ppg, 5.7 rpg), G Steve Thomas, 6-4 SR (17.1 ppg, 6.6 rpg), F Errol Daniyan, 6-6 SR (15.2 ppg, 8.3 rpg), G Carl Munnerlyn, 5-9 SR (11.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) F Farris Thomas, 6-5 (4.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg)

Top Returning ReserveL F RJ Ponesse, 6-10 SR (3.6 ppg, 2.3 rpg)


WPI (20-7 overall, 7-5 NEWMAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) G Jeffrey Robinson, 6-1 SR (19.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg), G Kyle Nadeau, 5-8 SR (9.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.0 apg), F Ben Etten, 6-4 SR (9.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg), C Matt Carr, 6-7 JR (5.9 ppg, 4.1 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) C Bennett Lessard, 6-8 (3.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Fernando Perez, 6-3 JR (11.1 ppg, 7.0 rpg)

Rust College (12-12 overall ) - indep
Starters Returning: G William Montgomery 6-1 JR (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.1 apg) G
Markeith Wilson JR 6-4 (15.7 ppg, 1.2 spg) F Larry Veasley SO 6-7 (15.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg)

[Ethelred the Unready]

Rust College (12-12 overall ) - indep
Starters Returning: G William Montgomery JR (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.1 apg) G
Markeith Wilson JR (15.7 ppg, 1.2 spg) F Larry Veasley SO (15.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg)

+K for having a sense of humor coach.  I suspect you'll need it....

[hopefan]

unfortunately, I fear there was no humor intended.....

[KnightSlappy]

They have like 14 all-americans on that team. That should qualify them for consideration. 

[RustCollege]

Rust College (12-12 overall ) - indep
Starters Returning: G William Montgomery JR (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.1 apg) G
Markeith Wilson JR (15.7 ppg, 1.2 spg) F Larry Veasley SO (15.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg)

+K for having a sense of humor coach.  I suspect you'll need it....

I know you never saw them play but you r n for a shock because G Jahrell Holmes is back from bein hurt an he also avg 15 ppg 2 spg 3 rpg  so joke if you want but you will see

[Ethelred the Unready]

Rust College (12-12 overall ) - indep
Starters Returning: G William Montgomery JR (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.1 apg) G
Markeith Wilson JR (15.7 ppg, 1.2 spg) F Larry Veasley SO (15.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg)

+K for having a sense of humor coach.  I suspect you'll need it....

I know you never saw them play but you r n for a shock because G Jahrell Holmes is back from bein hurt an he also avg 15 ppg 2 spg 3 rpg  so joke if you want but you will see

Well, that's about 60 points back for a team that finished 12-13 and ranked 195 according to Massey.   And in looking at your first 3 opponents this year, Massey had them ranked 291, 321 and 326 last year.  Just saying...seems like at first glance you have a lot of work to do to get to the Top 25.  And it looks like you're trying to do it with the guys who got you 12-13 last year.  So yeah, shock would be a good word to describe my feelings if Rust found their way into the Top 25.  Not saying it couldn't happen, but it is unlikely

[Titan Q]

Added Rhode Island...


Amherst (14-11 overall, 3-6 NESCAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) G Conor Meehan, 6-4 SR (14.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 6.2 apg), F Jeff Holmes, 6-7 JR (9.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg), G Taylor Barisse, 6-5 JR (8.2 ppg, 4.4 rpg), G/F David Waller, 6-6 JR (7.8 ppg, 4.6 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G/F Steven Wheeler, 6-6 (14.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Willy Workman, 6-6 SO (6.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg)


Augustana (16-10 overall, 9-5 CCIW) – Midwest
Starters Returning: (4) F Kyle Nelson, 6-9 SR (14.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg), PG Brian DeSimone, 6-1 JR (6.7 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.3 apg), G Troy Rorer, 6-2 JR (6.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg), F Brandon Kunz, 6-7 SO (4.7 ppg, 3.3 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G Matt Pelton, 6-3 (12.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Chris Anderson, 6-4 JR (7.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg)


Buena Vista (15-12 overall, 10-6 IIAC) – West
Starters Returning: (3) G Troy Ticknor, 6-1 SO (12.4 ppg, 2.1 rpg), F/C Doug Bissen, 6-7 JR (11.7 ppg, 6.4 rpg), F Wes Nordquist, 6-7 SO (11.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg)

Starters Lost: (2) G/F Nathan Parker, 6-4 (10.7 ppg, 4.3 rpg), G Kevin Osborn, 6-0 (3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Jeff Janssen, 6-4 JR (8.9 ppg, 1.8 rpg)


Calvin (19-9 overall, 12-2 MIAA) – Great Lakes
Starters Returning: (3) F Danny Rodts, 6-6 SR (9.8 ppg, 4.4 rpg), F Tom Snikkers, 6-4 SO (8.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg), G Trent Salo, 5-9 SR (5.3 ppg, 1.7 rpg)

Starters Lost: (2) C John Mantel, 6-9 (14.5 ppg, 7.5 rpg), F Matt Veltema, 6-6 (12.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Brad Schnyders, 6-6 SR (6.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg)


DePauw (20-8 overall, 11-5 SCAC) – South
Starters Returning: (2) G Steve Lemasters, 6-3 SR (12.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg), G Sean Hasely, 6-3 JR (11.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg)

Starters Lost: (3) G Tony James, 5-10 (10.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 4.3 apg), F Tom Callen, 6-4 (8.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg), F David Gray, 6-6 (4.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Drew Wills, 6-3 SR (6.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg)


Hope (21-8 overall, 11-3 MIAA) – Great Lakes
Starters Returning: (4) G Peter Bunn, 6-2 SR (16.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg), F Will Bowser, 6-5 SR (12.1 ppg, 5.8 rpg), F Andy Venema, 6-8 SR (9.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg), G David Krombeen, 6-3 JR (6.8 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 3.8 apg)

Starters Lost: (1) C Chris Nelis, 6-4 (12.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Nate Snuggerud, 6-5 SO (6.1 ppg, 4.8 rpg)


Loras (15-11 overall, 10-6 IIAC) – West
Starters Returning: (4) F Tim Kelly, 6-4 JR (13.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg) G Mike Gleason, 6-2 SR (11.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg), G Connor Mooney, 5-10 SO (11.4 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 4.2 apg), F Jordan Harrelson, 6-4 JR (5.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) F Alex Brant (5.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: C Dan Pawelski, 6-9 JR (9.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg)


Manchester (17-10 overall, 10-6 HCAC) – Midwest
Starters Returning: (5) G Mitch Schaefer, 6-4 SR (11.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg), G/F Tyler Henn, 6-5 SR (9.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg), G Jordan Moss, 6-4 JR (9.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg), G Nathan Ferch, 6-3 SR (8.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg), C Jason Spindler, 6-10 JR (7.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg)

Starters Lost: none

Top Returning Reserve: G Tyler Delauder, 6-1 SR (8.0 ppg, 2.4 rpg)


MIT (22-5 overall, 10-2 NEWMAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) F Noel Hollingsworth, 6-9 JR (20.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg), G Mitchell Kates, 6-1 SO (13.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 4.1 apg), F Will Tashman, 6-8 SO (8.7 ppg, 7.2 rpg), G Eric Zuk, 6-5 SR (1.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) Billy Johnson (8.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: G Jimmy Burke, 5-11 SO (9.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg)


Ramapo (18-9 overall, 7-6 NJAC) – Atlantic
Starters Returning: (4) F/C LaQuan Peterkin, 6-6 JR (15.4 ppg, 7.8 rpg), G Anthony LoRusso, 6-1 JR (9.1 ppg, 1.6 rpg), G Garret Thiel, 6-2 JR (8.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg), F Davian Plunkett, 6-6 JR (8.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G Andre Kenny, 6-3 (15.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 4.1 apg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Stephon Treadwell, 6-5 SO (4.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg)


Rhode Island (22-8 overall, 12-2 LEC) - Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) G Antone Gray, 5-9 SR (14.2 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 4.8 apg), G/F Mason Choice, 6-4 JR (13.0 ppg, 4.8 rpg), F/C Darius Debnam, 6-4 SR (7.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg), G Nick Manson, 6-0 SR (7.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) G Jake Grimes, 6-3 (14.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Carl Lee, 6-3 SR (9.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg)


Plattsburgh State (21-8 overall, 13-5 SUNYAC) – East
Starters Returning: (4) G Chris Ruiz, 6-4 SR (17.2 ppg, 5.7 rpg), G Steve Thomas, 6-4 SR (17.1 ppg, 6.6 rpg), F Errol Daniyan, 6-6 SR (15.2 ppg, 8.3 rpg), G Carl Munnerlyn, 5-9 SR (11.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) F Farris Thomas, 6-5 (4.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg)

Top Returning ReserveL F RJ Ponesse, 6-10 SR (3.6 ppg, 2.3 rpg)


WPI (20-7 overall, 7-5 NEWMAC) – Northeast
Starters Returning: (4) G Jeffrey Robinson, 6-1 SR (19.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg), G Kyle Nadeau, 5-8 SR (9.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.0 apg), F Ben Etten, 6-4 SR (9.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg), C Matt Carr, 6-7 JR (5.9 ppg, 4.1 rpg)

Starters Lost: (1) C Bennett Lessard, 6-8 (3.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg)

Top Returning Reserve: F Fernando Perez, 6-3 JR (11.1 ppg, 7.0 rpg)

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Rust College (12-12 overall ) - indep
Starters Returning: G William Montgomery JR (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.1 apg) G
Markeith Wilson JR (15.7 ppg, 1.2 spg) F Larry Veasley SO (15.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg)

+K for having a sense of humor coach.  I suspect you'll need it....

I know you never saw them play but you r n for a shock because G Jahrell Holmes is back from bein hurt an he also avg 15 ppg 2 spg 3 rpg  so joke if you want but you will see

I think the point is - we can't see.  The whole Rust rep is as the invisible team.

[RustCollege]

Rust College (12-12 overall ) - indep
Starters Returning: G William Montgomery JR (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.1 apg) G
Markeith Wilson JR (15.7 ppg, 1.2 spg) F Larry Veasley SO (15.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg)

+K for having a sense of humor coach.  I suspect you'll need it....

I know you never saw them play but you r n for a shock because G Jahrell Holmes is back from bein hurt an he also avg 15 ppg 2 spg 3 rpg  so joke if you want but you will see

Well, that's about 60 points back for a team that finished 12-13 and ranked 195 according to Massey.   And in looking at your first 3 opponents this year, Massey had them ranked 291, 321 and 326 last year.  Just saying...seems like at first glance you have a lot of work to do to get to the Top 25.  And it looks like you're trying to do it with the guys who got you 12-13 last year.  So yeah, shock would be a good word to describe my feelings if Rust found their way into the Top 25.  Not saying it couldn't happen, but it is unlikely

You may say that but if you knew anything about the team or watch them play you would know that Rust was missing two players who was hurt the whole yr and both are back and all the post players was freshmen last yr and they went 12-12 and showed improvement the sec half of the season...all im saying is watch and see dont put a team down if you never watch them play that all im sayin and Hoop Fan come watch then you tell me what you think cuz i hav

[Ralph Turner]

RustCollege, you have a good schedule as a South Region independent.

We should have a good idea of how good you are.  I wish that you could have played Maryville, either home-and-home or at a neutral site tourney.

[Ethelred the Unready]

Rust College (12-12 overall ) - indep
Starters Returning: G William Montgomery JR (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.1 apg) G
Markeith Wilson JR (15.7 ppg, 1.2 spg) F Larry Veasley SO (15.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg)

+K for having a sense of humor coach.  I suspect you'll need it....

I know you never saw them play but you r n for a shock because G Jahrell Holmes is back from bein hurt an he also avg 15 ppg 2 spg 3 rpg  so joke if you want but you will see

Well, that's about 60 points back for a team that finished 12-13 and ranked 195 according to Massey.   And in looking at your first 3 opponents this year, Massey had them ranked 291, 321 and 326 last year.  Just saying...seems like at first glance you have a lot of work to do to get to the Top 25.  And it looks like you're trying to do it with the guys who got you 12-13 last year.  So yeah, shock would be a good word to describe my feelings if Rust found their way into the Top 25.  Not saying it couldn't happen, but it is unlikely

You may say that but if you knew anything about the team or watch them play you would know that Rust was missing two players who was hurt the whole yr and both are back and all the post players was freshmen last yr and they went 12-12 and showed improvement the sec half of the season...all im saying is watch and see dont put a team down if you never watch them play that all im sayin and Hoop Fan come watch then you tell me what you think cuz i hav

Nobody is saying your team won't improve from last year coach.  They may even win 20 games, which would make for a nice season.  But this is a Top 25 discussion.  And I personally just think it is close to impossible for a team to be considered one of the top teams in the country when they don't play anyone who is ranked higher than they are.  I know Massey isn't the only measurement of a teams ability, but it does provide at least some indication of how teams compare.  And based on last years rankings, Rust is ranked in the middle of all DIII teams and plays some of the lowest ranked teams in the country.  I just think it will be tough for voters to consider your team as one of the 25 best in the country.  Unless, of course, you hold opponents to under 10 points a game.  Then you have an argument.   

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Rust College (12-12 overall ) - indep
Starters Returning: G William Montgomery JR (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.1 apg) G
Markeith Wilson JR (15.7 ppg, 1.2 spg) F Larry Veasley SO (15.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg)

+K for having a sense of humor coach.  I suspect you'll need it....

I know you never saw them play but you r n for a shock because G Jahrell Holmes is back from bein hurt an he also avg 15 ppg 2 spg 3 rpg  so joke if you want but you will see

Well, that's about 60 points back for a team that finished 12-13 and ranked 195 according to Massey.   And in looking at your first 3 opponents this year, Massey had them ranked 291, 321 and 326 last year.  Just saying...seems like at first glance you have a lot of work to do to get to the Top 25.  And it looks like you're trying to do it with the guys who got you 12-13 last year.  So yeah, shock would be a good word to describe my feelings if Rust found their way into the Top 25.  Not saying it couldn't happen, but it is unlikely

You may say that but if you knew anything about the team or watch them play you would know that Rust was missing two players who was hurt the whole yr and both are back and all the post players was freshmen last yr and they went 12-12 and showed improvement the sec half of the season...all im saying is watch and see dont put a team down if you never watch them play that all im sayin and Hoop Fan come watch then you tell me what you think cuz i hav

Again, you're making my point.  People don't know about the team because either the scores never get reported or you're spending the whole season playing teams none of us have ever heard from.  It looks like you've got some more d3 schools on the schedule this year, so that's a start.  I do recall decent score reporting last season.  You're getting there.  It's still going to be hard to determine how good the squad is when there's little comparison to the rest of the country.

Good luck, though, I hope the team's good - and I hope we have some way of figuring that out.

[hopefan]

Webster plays down at Rust in December....   They will have a pretty good group from a lower level D3 conference (SLIAC)  ...   it will give me an idea..  and while I highly doubt that I'll make the drive down to Holly Springs, I'll be able to talk to the Webster staff for some opinion.....    and by the way,  RustCollege really is on the coaching staff....