Top 25 talk

[smedindy]

Final:  #1 Wooster 76  Allegheny 73

Wooster gets a narrow road win tonight as All American Ian Franks hit a three pointer to win it for the Scots at the buzzer.  For Wooster, Franks had 19 points, Justin Hallowell with 18 points, Matt Fegan with 15 points and Nathan Balch with 12 points.

Not a good result for Wooster's #1 ranking, as Allegheny is a below-average team in D3...

However,

Wooster is the big dog of the NCAC - the team you want to beat with all of your heart and soul, especially when they are #1 in the nation.

And it was in Meadville - never a fun place to drive to in the winter.

[Gregory Sager]

Final:  #1 Wooster 76  Allegheny 73

Wooster gets a narrow road win tonight as All American Ian Franks hit a three pointer to win it for the Scots at the buzzer.  For Wooster, Franks had 19 points, Justin Hallowell with 18 points, Matt Fegan with 15 points and Nathan Balch with 12 points.

Not a good result for Wooster's #1 ranking, as Allegheny is a below-average team in D3...

However,

Wooster is the big dog of the NCAC - the team you want to beat with all of your heart and soul, especially when they are #1 in the nation.

And it was in Meadville - never a fun place to drive to in the winter.

What time of year does Meadville become a fun place to drive to?

I've been there, and "fun" isn't the adjective that leaps to mind when I think of Meadville.

[ScotsFan]

Final:  #1 Wooster 76  Allegheny 73

Wooster gets a narrow road win tonight as All American Ian Franks hit a three pointer to win it for the Scots at the buzzer.  For Wooster, Franks had 19 points, Justin Hallowell with 18 points, Matt Fegan with 15 points and Nathan Balch with 12 points.

Not a good result for Wooster's #1 ranking, as Allegheny is a below-average team in D3...

However,

Wooster is the big dog of the NCAC - the team you want to beat with all of your heart and soul, especially when they are #1 in the nation.

And it was in Meadville - never a fun place to drive to in the winter.

And it was a win was it not?   

Wooster may not have gotten the style points tonight, but the bottom line is that they still have a 0 in the loss column. 

[David Collinge]

Final:  #1 Wooster 76  Allegheny 73

Wooster gets a narrow road win tonight as All American Ian Franks hit a three pointer to win it for the Scots at the buzzer.  For Wooster, Franks had 19 points, Justin Hallowell with 18 points, Matt Fegan with 15 points and Nathan Balch with 12 points.

Not a good result for Wooster's #1 ranking, as Allegheny is a below-average team in D3...

However,

Wooster is the big dog of the NCAC - the team you want to beat with all of your heart and soul, especially when they are #1 in the nation.

...something the Gators have not managed to do in over a decade, although a number of these games have been nailbiters, including last year's game in Mudville (69-68). 

This may not be the victory you put on line one of your resume, and who knows, maybe the Scots were preoccupied with their ranking (e.g., they were outrebounded by a team with a negative rebound margin on the season), or maybe it was the long bus ride through treacherous weather.  Regardless, a win is a win, and it's good experience to play close games against teams that are executing, experience that Wooster doesn't get a lot of, and which could pay off in February and March.

[smedindy]

Final:  #1 Wooster 76  Allegheny 73

Wooster gets a narrow road win tonight as All American Ian Franks hit a three pointer to win it for the Scots at the buzzer.  For Wooster, Franks had 19 points, Justin Hallowell with 18 points, Matt Fegan with 15 points and Nathan Balch with 12 points.

Not a good result for Wooster's #1 ranking, as Allegheny is a below-average team in D3...

However,

Wooster is the big dog of the NCAC - the team you want to beat with all of your heart and soul, especially when they are #1 in the nation.

And it was in Meadville - never a fun place to drive to in the winter.

What time of year does Meadville become a fun place to drive to?

I've been there, and "fun" isn't the adjective that leaps to mind when I think of Meadville.

Well, the drive through the National Forest to the East is scenic. I kind of like that.

But for most of us, to get to Meadville we spend most of our time in...

Ohio. 

[sac]

Early December conference games can be tricky, seems like you get a few surprising results right out of the gate every year in the OAC, WIAC etc.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared -- Midweek Report

As always, please let me know if anything is missing; I don't proofread my program's output too much, apart from looking up missing scores (there were none on the men's side this time).

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	591	Wooster	7-0	def. Allegheny, 76-73; 12/11 at Ohio Wesleyan
#2	561	Williams	8-0	def. Hamilton, 79-56; 12/11 at Springfield
#3	533	Virginia Wesleyan	9-0	def. Apprentice School, 75-73; 12/11 at Shenandoah
#4	512	UW-Stevens Point	5-1	def. UW-Whitewater, 72-61; 12/11 vs. Macalester
#5	503	Middlebury	6-0	IDLE
#6	473	St. Norbert	5-1	LOST at Beloit, 50-62; 12/11 vs. Knox
#7	448	Whitworth	6-0	12/10 vs. UC Santa Cruz; 12/12 vs. Whittier
#8	444	Eastern Mennonite	6-1	12/11 vs. Averett; 12/12 vs. Bluefield Col.
#9	429	St. Thomas	8-0	def. Augsburg, 65-61; def. St. Olaf, 87-58; 12/11 at Hamline
#10	415	Illinois Wesleyan	6-1	12/11 vs. MacMurray
#11	401	Wabash	9-0	def. Ohio Wesleyan, 62-50; 12/11 at Kenyon
#12	388	Randolph-Macon	6-2	def. Lynchburg, 89-55; 12/11 vs. T#35 Guilford
#13	361	Augustana	5-0	def. St. Ambrose, 80-73; 12/11 vs. Buena Vista
#14	287	St. Mary's (Md.)	6-2	LOST at Citadel, 64-72; def. York (Pa.), 81-77; 12/11 vs. Hood
#15	246	Franklin and Marshall	6-1	def. Gettysburg, 70-62; 12/11 vs. Haverford
#16	224	Brandeis	8-0	IDLE
#17	197	John Carroll	6-1	def. Mount Union, 90-65; 12/11 vs. Ohio Northern
#18	183	UW-River Falls	7-1	def. UW-Eau Claire, 75-51; 12/11 at UW-Oshkosh
#19	167	Carthage	6-2	def. Silver Lake, 86-55; 12/11 vs. Albion; 12/11 vs. Cardinal Stritch
#20	148	Amherst	7-0	def. Emmanuel, 79-52; 12/09 vs. Babson; 12/11 at Anna Maria
#21	141	MIT	7-1	def. Mass-Boston, 92-68; 12/09 at Salem State; 12/11 at Lesley
#22	66	Plattsburgh State	6-1	IDLE
#23	49	WPI	5-2	LOST at Harvard, 54-69; 12/09 vs. #32 Rhode Island College; 12/11 at Fitchburg State
#24	46	Emory	7-0	def. Covenant, 80-67
#25	45	Ramapo	7-1	def. New York City Tech, 85-56; 12/11 vs. Richard Stockton

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	38	Catholic	6-1	LOST at T#43 DeSales, 66-72; 12/11 vs. Gettysburg
#27	33	Chapman	7-1	def. La Verne, 85-74; 12/11 vs. Pomona-Pitzer
#28	32	Anderson	4-2	def. Bluffton, 76-68; 12/11 vs. Earlham
#29	29	New York University	6-0	def. New Jersey, 82-65; 12/11 vs. New York City Tech
T#30	20	Western Connecticut	7-1	def. Norwich, 87-82; 12/11 at Mass-Dartmouth
T#30	20	Wheaton (Ill.)	5-2	12/09 vs. Trinity Int'l; 12/11 vs. Washington U.
#32	15	Rhode Island College	6-1	def. Salve Regina, 78-56; 12/09 at #23 WPI; 12/11 at Mass-Boston
T#33	12	Centre	5-1	IDLE
T#33	12	Ripon	5-1	def. Carroll, 70-65
T#35	9	Guilford	5-3	LOST at Washington and Lee, 67-71; 12/11 at #12 Randolph-Macon
T#35	9	Manhattanville	6-1	12/09 vs. Baruch
#37	8	Ferrum	6-0	def. Washington and Lee, 66-64
#38	7	Christopher Newport	4-2	IDLE
#39	4	East Texas Baptist	5-1	12/11 vs. Hardin-Simmons
T#40	3	Colorado College	5-2	IDLE
T#40	3	Hope	2-3	12/10 vs. Grace Bible (Mich.); 12/11 vs. TBA
T#40	3	Texas-Dallas	5-2	def. Texas Lutheran, 77-63
T#43	2	Becker	6-1	def. Bridgewater State, 78-75; 12/09 vs. Clark; 12/11 at Newbury
T#43	2	DeSales	5-2	def. #26 Catholic, 72-66; 12/11 vs. Penn St.-Wilkes-Barre
T#43	2	Keene State	7-1	def. Massachusetts College, 104-79; 12/11 vs. Southern Maine
T#46	1	Marietta	6-0	12/11 vs. Otterbein
T#46	1	Nazareth	6-1	def. Buffalo State, 86-79; 12/09 at Ithaca
T#46	1	SUNY-Purchase	7-0	IDLE

[Pat Coleman]

Final:  #1 Wooster 76  Allegheny 73

Wooster gets a narrow road win tonight as All American Ian Franks hit a three pointer to win it for the Scots at the buzzer.  For Wooster, Franks had 19 points, Justin Hallowell with 18 points, Matt Fegan with 15 points and Nathan Balch with 12 points.

Not a good result for Wooster's #1 ranking, as Allegheny is a below-average team in D3...

However,

Wooster is the big dog of the NCAC - the team you want to beat with all of your heart and soul, especially when they are #1 in the nation.

And it was in Meadville - never a fun place to drive to in the winter.

What time of year does Meadville become a fun place to drive to?

I've been there, and "fun" isn't the adjective that leaps to mind when I think of Meadville.

I drove from Alliance to Meadville last year to cover a football doubleheader -- one game at Allegheny, one at Mount Union. In October it was merely a drive, neither fun nor painful.

[nwhoops1903]

Beloit 62, St. Norbert 50.  This will hurt St. Norbert's Massey BIGTIME.  But will it hurt there 6 spot?  

Virginia Wesleyan 9-0 def. Apprentice School, 75-73.  Is this a good win?  

When is the "early" season officially over?  6 games?  8 games?  10???  A month?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

When is the "early" season officially over?  6 games?  8 games?  10???  A month?

First week of January.

[Mr. Ypsi]

When is the "early" season officially over?  6 games?  8 games?  10???  A month?

First week of January.

You are obviously correct, since that is when the Posters' Poll begins!

[smedindy]

Beloit 62, St. Norbert 50.  This will hurt St. Norbert's Massey BIGTIME.  But will it hurt there 6 spot?  

Virginia Wesleyan 9-0 def. Apprentice School, 75-73.  Is this a good win?  

When is the "early" season officially over?  6 games?  8 games?  10???  A month?

When the NCAA field is determined! 

[Ralph Turner]

When is the "early" season officially over?  6 games?  8 games?  10???  A month?

First week of January.

You are obviously correct, since that is when the Posters' Poll begins!

Did somebody mention the Posters' Poll?

I'm in!   

[GuyFormerlyPSBBG]

When is the "early" season officially over?  6 games?  8 games?  10???  A month?

First week of January.

You are obviously correct, since that is when the Posters' Poll begins!

Did somebody mention the Posters' Poll?

I'm in!   

I'm in.....on the women's side though. 

[nwhoops1903]

Whitworth 92-61 over UC Santa Cruz.  No trouble, subs in with 12 minutes to play.