Top 25 talk

[Pat Coleman]

Thanks for the heads-up -- with that as a starting point, indeed, 2005-06 ended without a UAA men's team in the Top 25. That continued through Week 2 of 2007. In Week 3, Chicago entered the poll, NYU entered a week later, then Wash U started its long poll run a week after that.

So it seems like the poll through games of Dec. 3, 2006, was the last D3hoops.com Top 25 without a UAA men's team.

[Hugenerd]

Nice! La Roche jumps into the ORV this week, at ORV #41.  Big week coming up, as they play at Penn State Behrend next Wednesday.  As long as they dont overlook Pitt Greensburg, a win at PSB will likely get them much more Top 25 consideration.

Pat, if La Roche gets to 18-1 by beating PSB on the road, with a 17 game win streak, do you think they crack your top 25?

[Pat Coleman]

It certainly depends on what else happens, but at first glance, they probably wouldn't be on my ballot, no.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

hugenerd - Sorry... but PSB isn't going to look like a terrific win if La Roche gets it.

PSB has an OWP of .383 (90-145) counting Franciscan but not repeating records of teams records they have played twice with just 2 teams above .500. Their Massey Rating is 146 counting point differential and 127 not counting the points. A win over them, no matter their record, doesn't do much for anyone.

La Roche, by the way, has an OWP of .451 (114-143) counting Franciscan and Cenn Penn and not repeating teams records they have played twice with 5 teams above .500. Their Massey Rating is 91/29.

La Roche can't afford to lose to PSB, but I am not convinced a win over them is a huge deal.

I did put La Roche in my Top 25 - at #23 - because I couldn't ignore that 29 rating... and they have gone through with only one loss. I felt it might have been a bit premature... but I was struggling with teams 15-25 with a lot of contenders but all of them lacked something that made me feel strong about them in the Top 25. We will see if I regret La Roche's inclusion on my ballot... as I have already regretted others this year.

[sac]

Massey has the UAA rated #9 in D3 conferences, I think this is their lowest rating by several positions that I can recall.

[Hugenerd]

Thanks for the responses.  I have no ties to La Roche, but I am rooting for them.  I hope they keep playing well.

My comment with regards to PSB was because they have received votes in the top 25 poll the last few weeks, and it would be a road win over their main competition in the AMCC.

[KnightSlappy]

Massey has the UAA rated #9 in D3 conferences, I think this is their lowest rating by several positions that I can recall.

Somebody quick count the number of WIAC opponents. That has to be it.

[magicman]

#6 Williams wins on the road at Skidmore 84-61. Whittington for Williams almost perfect on 10x11 from the field and 8x9 from the line, as he finishes with a double-double of 28 points with 10 rebounds. 

[Hugenerd]

#6 Williams wins on the road at Skidmore 84-61. Whittington for Williams almost perfect on 10x11 from the field and 8x9 from the line, as he finishes with a double-double of 28 points with 10 rebounds. 

And he did all that in 19 minutes of action.  Imagine if he played a whole game. 56 and 20???

[wooscotsfan]

Final: #1 Wooster 103  Kenyon 67

Wooster notches an easy road win as they clear the bench.  Scots led by Nathan Balch 22 and Ian Franks 20.

Wooster plays Idle on Saturday    Next game is at Hiram on 2/2.

[wooscotsfan]

Final:  Ohio Wesleyan 87  #11 Wabash 76

Wabash drops a road game at OWU.  Tim Brady led OWU with 36 and Wes Smith had 29 for Wabash.

[John Gleich]

#10 UW River Falls trails for much of the game but comes back to beat UW Superior 62-59.

#12 UW Stevens Point destroys ORV UW Whitewater 85-59.  It was 40-20 at the half and SP led by as many as 37.

[dahlby]

Augie over IWU by 2 in a game that IWU led for most of the time.  Wining shot at 2 seconds after IWU had tied it after being down.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Augie goes to 18-0 with a Kyle Nelson buzzer-beater nipping IWU, 69-67.  The Titans led almost the whole game (by as much as 16 early on), but a 14-0 run by the Vikings put them ahead by 8 late in the game.  The Titans went on their own 8-0 run from 2:01 to :09 remaining to tie, but 'twas not to be.

[Pat Coleman]

An actual buzzer beater? Horn sounds with the ball in the air?