Top 25 talk

[David Collinge]

HA! The NCAA won't put them in opposite brackets... you should know that! My bet... Sweet 16, maybe 2nd Round!

Whitworth's second round opponent has already been determined.  After a first round bye, they're hosting [Generic Southern California Team].  Their Sweet Sixteen will probably include both Point and River Falls, order TBD.

I would be surprised if Point loses any more games except their last.  Looking pretty tough.

I took that as Point losing to Whitworth in the Final Four. 

I think he's dreaming of a WhitworthPirates title, meaning every tournament team except his loses their last game, whether to Whitworth in Salem or to someone else somewhere else.

[Greek Tragedy]

Yeah, I had already thought about that too!  It's always NWC #2 vs. SCIAC #1 and then the winner plays NWC #1.  It would be a shame if Point and River Falls are in the same pod come the 2nd weekend.  It's a tough area to be in because River Falls and St. Thomas could be in the same quad as well.  I'm hoping Point goes East.

[David Collinge]

Yeah, I had already thought about that too!  It's always NWC #2 vs. SCIAC #1 and then the winner plays NWC #1.

There's already two SoCal teams in the draw, since Chapman has all but clinched Pool B.  They'll play each other in round one, unless Lewis & Clark sneaks in from Pool C and forces a four-team regional in Spokane.  (L&C could also get shipped cross-country, leaving Whitworth with their geographic and well-deserved bye.)

[89Pirate]

Yeah, I had already thought about that too!  It's always NWC #2 vs. SCIAC #1 and then the winner plays NWC #1.

There's already two SoCal teams in the draw, since Chapman has all but clinched Pool B.  They'll play each other in round one, unless Lewis & Clark sneaks in from Pool C and forces a four-team regional in Spokane.  (L&C could also get shipped cross-country, leaving Whitworth with their geographic and well-deserved bye.)

If it has not already been asked, what are the chances of Whitworth hosting round 3/4?  assuming they continue their winning ways?

[KnightSlappy]

Yeah, I had already thought about that too!  It's always NWC #2 vs. SCIAC #1 and then the winner plays NWC #1.

There's already two SoCal teams in the draw, since Chapman has all but clinched Pool B.  They'll play each other in round one, unless Lewis & Clark sneaks in from Pool C and forces a four-team regional in Spokane.  (L&C could also get shipped cross-country, leaving Whitworth with their geographic and well-deserved bye.)

If it has not already been asked, what are the chances of Whitworth hosting round 3/4?  assuming they continue their winning ways?

Somewhere between slim and none. Unfortunately, geography is not a friend to the Pirates. They only way I see it happening is if somehow three other geographically isolated teams were in the same region and all won.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Yeah, I had already thought about that too!  It's always NWC #2 vs. SCIAC #1 and then the winner plays NWC #1.

There's already two SoCal teams in the draw, since Chapman has all but clinched Pool B.  They'll play each other in round one, unless Lewis & Clark sneaks in from Pool C and forces a four-team regional in Spokane.  (L&C could also get shipped cross-country, leaving Whitworth with their geographic and well-deserved bye.)

If it has not already been asked, what are the chances of Whitworth hosting round 3/4?  assuming they continue their winning ways?

Somewhere between slim and none. Unfortunately, geography is not a friend to the Pirates. They only way I see it happening is if somehow three other geographically isolated teams were in the same region and all won.

If you get St. Thomas, Hanover, Whitworth, and a team from Texas, you have like a 60% chance of Whitworth hosting.

[frodotwo]

Yeah, I had already thought about that too!  It's always NWC #2 vs. SCIAC #1 and then the winner plays NWC #1.

There's already two SoCal teams in the draw, since Chapman has all but clinched Pool B.  They'll play each other in round one, unless Lewis & Clark sneaks in from Pool C and forces a four-team regional in Spokane.  (L&C could also get shipped cross-country, leaving Whitworth with their geographic and well-deserved bye.)

If it has not already been asked, what are the chances of Whitworth hosting round 3/4?  assuming they continue their winning ways?

Somewhere between slim and none. Unfortunately, geography is not a friend to the Pirates. They only way I see it happening is if somehow three other geographically isolated teams were in the same region and all won.

If you get St. Thomas, Hanover, Whitworth, and a team from Texas, you have like a 60% chance of Whitworth hosting.

Don't forget that in '04 Puget Sound hosted Point, Lawrence and Sul Ross State, so Whitworth could do the same.

[Pat Coleman]

Does anyone know what happened to week #8 men's top 25 standings? It only shows week #9, then week # 7. Thanks.

Fixed.  It's not automatic; the page has to be updated to add the new link.  Despite the vast, dedicated D3hoops.com IT department (), sometimes updates are less than immediate.

Agreed. Since the last ballot didn't come in until after 6 last night I had but a few minutes to get polls calculated and posted between my daughter's jazz band performance and my own music rehearsal so I had to cut a couple corners.

One of which was double-checking point totals on the women's poll, as David informed me privately.

Frodotwo: That happened but remember the perfect storm of factors that led to it as well -- Lawrence's gym being deemed too small (the NCAA has since changed its mind), UW-SP hosting the women's sectionals. Now, there has been a lot of noise from island conferences and schools about getting the shaft in hosting postseason events, so perhaps the NCAA will budge a little bit from its pedestal. And it would be deserved by Whitworth. But it would be unlikely.

[89Pirate]

Pat - I understand the economics and such, but it would really be an injustice to have a team be potentially 27-0 going into the Tourney, host rounds 1/2, be 29-0 and get shipped elsewhere.  Obviously I am biased...ya think?

I am just hoping it happens - I blew alot of my travel budget going to the D3Hoops Classic in Vegas to watch the Pirates (btw - nice meeting you in Vegas) and would like to save the rest for Salem.

BTW - when do NCAA regional rankings come out?

[sac]

Pat - I understand the economics and such, but it would really be an injustice to have a team be potentially 27-0 going into the Tourney, host rounds 1/2, be 29-0 and get shipped elsewhere.  Obviously I am biased...ya think?

I am just hoping it happens - I blew alot of my travel budget going to the D3Hoops Classic in Vegas to watch the Pirates (btw - nice meeting you in Vegas) and would like to save the rest for Salem.

BTW - when do NCAA regional rankings come out?

Plenty teams with great records have had to go on the road in the Sweet 16.  It's just the way it works.

[Ralph Turner]

Yeah, I had already thought about that too!  It's always NWC #2 vs. SCIAC #1 and then the winner plays NWC #1.

There's already two SoCal teams in the draw, since Chapman has all but clinched Pool B.  They'll play each other in round one, unless Lewis & Clark sneaks in from Pool C and forces a four-team regional in Spokane.  (L&C could also get shipped cross-country, leaving Whitworth with their geographic and well-deserved bye.)

If it has not already been asked, what are the chances of Whitworth hosting round 3/4?  assuming they continue their winning ways?

Somewhere between slim and none. Unfortunately, geography is not a friend to the Pirates. They only way I see it happening is if somehow three other geographically isolated teams were in the same region and all won.

If you get St. Thomas, Hanover, Whitworth, and a team from Texas, you have like a 60% chance of Whitworth hosting.

Don't forget that in '04 Puget Sound hosted Point, Lawrence and Sul Ross State, so Whitworth could do the same.

But you only got Sul Ross State because of the "53 team" format.  (I think that is how many teams were in the men's bracket that year.)

University of Dallas (of Bumblin' B's fame) went to Sully on Thursday night.  Sully then played Saturday night in San Antonio at Trinity, who had the bye.)

I will bet that there is a first round geographic orphan out of the ASC, especially if Centre gets the only bid by a SCAC team.  The ASC orphan could be flown west to fill a bracket.

[nwhoops1903]

HA! The NCAA won't put them in opposite brackets... you should know that! My bet... Sweet 16, maybe 2nd Round!

Whitworth's second round opponent has already been determined.  After a first round bye, they're hosting [Generic Southern California Team].  Their Sweet Sixteen will probably include both Point and River Falls, order TBD.

I would be surprised if Point loses any more games except their last.  Looking pretty tough.

I took that as Point losing to Whitworth in the Final Four. 

I think he's dreaming of a WhitworthPirates title, meaning every tournament team except his loses their last game, whether to Whitworth in Salem or to someone else somewhere else.

Yes, this comment is the winner!!  +1 D.C.   In fact, I very much do not want to see Whitworth have to go through Point, especially at Point, to get to Salem.  Someone else take them down or Salem is fine. 

I think WW has an outside chance of hosting, If 3 teams in a sweet 16 pod have to fly with travel expenses (not distance) being equal, top team should get the nod.  Whitworth will have the top regional ranking barring a 2 game collapse.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I noticed in the new poll - http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2010-11/week9 - #25 Wittenberg received just 29 points.  That seems like an awfully low number to be in the poll.  Is there a low vote record out there somewhere?

[Pat Coleman]

Pat - I understand the economics and such, but it would really be an injustice to have a team be potentially 27-0 going into the Tourney, host rounds 1/2, be 29-0 and get shipped elsewhere.  Obviously I am biased...ya think?

I am just hoping it happens - I blew alot of my travel budget going to the D3Hoops Classic in Vegas to watch the Pirates (btw - nice meeting you in Vegas) and would like to save the rest for Salem.

BTW - when do NCAA regional rankings come out?

Agreed on all counts, nice to meet you as well. Rankings are supposed to come out on Wednesday afternoon, late in the day EST.

[nwhoops1903]

Can someone tell a west coast guy why St. Mary's is the best 4 loss team in D3? 
Truly just curious.