Top 25 talk

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Middlebury blew out Curry and had a close win at Salem State, whilst MIT was idle.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

No rule says voters can't change their minds! :-) I am not the voter who switched... but I am about ready to blow-up my ballot and redo the entire thing. There are just too many question marks about teams. Most of the Top 25 is questionable... making this a very challenging year, so far.

[Just Bill]

Notice how deep the ORV list is on the men's poll compared to the women's poll. That list typically starts big and shrinks in number through the season. This year it seems to be holding mostly steady. That indicates to me there's a lot of uncertainity among voters about who belongs in the bottom half of the poll.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

No rule says voters can't change their minds! I am not the voter who switched... but I am about ready to blow-up my ballot and redo the entire thing. There are just too many question marks about teams. Most of the Top 25 is questionable... making this a very challenging year, so far.

I don't begrudge anyone changing their mind.  It just seems odd to change this week, given MIT's lack of play and that fact that Middlebury continues to work its best player back into the line-up.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I will say from experience that sometimes I have seen a team and changed my mind on their placement in my poll. There is a chance a voter saw Middlebury recently and even saw MIT this season and has decided he has his vote misplaced between the two. I have no idea... just giving some insight on how it could have played out.

That is exactly the reason I moved at least one team into this week's poll despite a loss... and am seriously considering starting from scratch soon as I am starting to see more teams... AND there are so many question marks (good point Just Bill).

[Hugenerd]

I will say from experience that sometimes I have seen a team and changed my mind on their placement in my poll. There is a chance a voter saw Middlebury recently and even saw MIT this season and has decided he has his vote misplaced between the two. I have no idea... just giving some insight on how it could have played out.

That is exactly the reason I moved at least one team into this week's poll despite a loss... and am seriously considering starting from scratch soon as I am starting to see more teams... AND there are so many question marks (good point Just Bill).

For example, someone may have observed both the Salem State vs. MIT and the Salem State vs. Middlebury games.  MIT controlled the entire game vs. Salem, leading by as many as 28 (with the lead never dropping below double-digits in the second half).  Conversely, Midd did have some trouble with Salem.  I am not saying that these translational comparisons are always accurate, but if a voter saw both games and felt that MIT would beat Midd if they played based on their observations, then I think they are justified in changing their vote.

[magicman]

#20 Oswego State battles the D-I Broncos of Texas-Pan American the entire game before losing 59-54.

[WAlum]

Head scratchers:
Wooster is ranked ahead of Wabash.  Wooster has two losses, Wabash one (to one-loss Transylvania) and Wabash beat Wooster head to head.

OVR Section - Wittenberg has 3 losses yet is ranked ahead of Ohio Wesleyan with 1 loss.  Both teams had a common opponent during the voting period and different results.  Wittenberg lost to Otterbein while Ohio Wesleyan beat Otterbein by 10. 

Marietta continues to fall in the rankings.  When will Halter be back?

[sac]

Head scratchers:
Wooster is ranked ahead of Wabash.  Wooster has two losses, Wabash one (to one-loss Transylvania) and Wabash beat Wooster head to head.

OVR Section - Wittenberg has 3 losses yet is ranked ahead of Ohio Wesleyan with 1 loss.  Both teams had a common opponent during the voting period and different results.  Wittenberg lost to Otterbein while Ohio Wesleyan beat Otterbein by 10. 

Marietta continues to fall in the rankings.  When will Halter be back?

Halter has played in 4 of the last 6 Marietta games.

[Ralph Turner]

New Top 25 is out.  One of Middlebury's #1 votes has evidently switched to MIT.  Interesting.

The computerized tabulation list probably has MID adjacent to MIT and the voter's finger just slipped to far down the list.

[Hugenerd]

In their first game in 3 weeks, MIT defeats Springfield 67-59 in both teams NEWMAC opener. Game was competitive, but MITs experience has really helped them finish out the few close games they have had so far this season.

[wooscotsfan]

Final:  #15 Wooster 100  Geneva 48 
Wooster led this game by 39 points at halftime (57 - 18).     Scots were led in scoring tonight by Justin Hallowell with 14 points, freshman Kenny Deboer with 14, Josh Claytor with 13, Jake Mays with 13 and freshman Xavier Brown chipped in 11 points.

Wooster is now 10-2.   Next game is Saturday at home vs. Oberlin

[Mr. Ypsi]

#23 Wheaton falls 87-77 in OT at ORV IWU.  My guess would be that this will drop Wheaton to ORV status, but not be quite enough to get IWU into the top 25, leaving Augie as the CCIW's sole rep in the top 25.

[Titan Q]

#23 Wheaton falls 87-77 in OT at ORV IWU.  My guess would be that this will drop Wheaton to ORV status, but not be quite enough to get IWU into the top 25, leaving Augie as the CCIW's sole rep in the top 25.

I'm pretty confident IWU and Wheaton are both Top 25 teams...maybe somewhere in the 18-24 range.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I don't know... there are a TON of teams that could slot into 15-25... if not 10-25... makes it hard to put two from the same conference (CCIW) along with Augustana in there.

I am going to have to seriously reassess my poll this week... too many teams to consider.