Top 25 talk

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	622	Middlebury	15-0	def. Castleton State, 97-71; 01/20 at Hamilton
#2	595	Virginia Wesleyan	13-1	01/21 vs. Guilford
#3	575	MIT	16-0	01/21 vs. WPI
#4	547	Amherst	13-2	LOST at #38 Wesleyan, 67-68; 01/20 at Bowdoin; 01/21 at Colby
#5	500	UW-Whitewater	16-1	def. UW-Oshkosh, 62-45; 01/21 at UW-Stout
#6	494	Mary Hardin-Baylor	15-0	01/19 at T#34 Hardin-Simmons; 01/21 at McMurry
#7	450	Hope	15-1	def. Calvin, 81-65; 01/21 vs. Olivet
#8	448	Emory	13-1	01/20 vs. Carnegie Mellon; 01/22 vs. Case Western Reserve
#9	428	Whitworth	13-3	LOST to Whitman, 66-77; 01/20 at Willamette
#10	388	Cabrini	15-1	def. Gwynedd-Mercy, 78-73; 01/21 at Baptist Bible
#11	343	UW-Stevens Point	14-3	def. UW-Platteville, 71-57; 01/21 vs. T#34 UW-River Falls
#12	319	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	15-0	def. Pomona-Pitzer, 57-55; 01/21 at Whittier
#13	310	Franklin and Marshall	15-1	def. Dickinson, 65-62; 01/21 at McDaniel
#14	266	Birmingham-Southern	14-1	01/20 vs. Austin; 01/21 vs. University of Dallas
#15	237	Williams	13-3	01/19 vs. Skidmore; 01/22 vs. Hamilton
#16	211	Wabash	13-3	LOST at #21 Wittenberg, 43-61; 01/21 vs. Kenyon
#17	206	Illinois Wesleyan	13-3	LOST at T#47 North Central (Ill.), 69-82; 01/21 at Elmhurst
#18	159	William Paterson	15-2	def. Baruch, 72-58; def. New Jersey City, 72-58; 01/21 vs. Rutgers-Camden
#19	120	Augustana	12-4	def. North Park, 73-52; 01/21 vs. Carthage
#20	103	St. Thomas	11-4	LOST to Bethel, 68-69; def. St. Olaf, 78-77; 01/21 at St. Mary's (Minn.)
#21	99	Wittenberg	13-3	def. #16 Wabash, 61-43; 01/21 at Hiram
#22	97	Wheaton (Ill.)	13-3	def. Carthage, 79-73; 01/21 at North Park
#23	87	New York University	12-1	01/20 at Chicago; 01/22 at #29 Washington U.
#24	60	Wooster	13-3	def. Allegheny, 73-51; 01/21 vs. T#34 Ohio Wesleyan
#25	57	Eastern Connecticut	13-1	def. #31 Western Connecticut, 74-61; 01/21 at Southern Maine

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	56	Rhode Island College	13-2	def. Mass-Dartmouth, 61-57; 01/21 vs. Plymouth State
#27	47	Oswego State	11-3	01/21 vs. Cortland State
#28	42	Transylvania	14-2	def. Mount St. Joseph, 53-44; 01/21 at Anderson
#29	39	Washington U.	11-3	01/20 vs. Brandeis; 01/22 vs. #23 New York University
#30	37	Bethany	15-2	def. St. Vincent, 77-63; 01/21 vs. Grove City
#31	26	Western Connecticut	13-3	LOST at #25 Eastern Connecticut, 61-74; 01/21 vs. Mass-Boston
#32	24	Lake Forest	12-1	01/20 vs. St. Norbert; 01/21 vs. Ripon
#33	18	Worcester Polytech	13-3	def. Clark, 64-51; 01/21 at MIT
T#34	16	Hampden-Sydney	13-3	def. Washington and Lee, 78-56; 01/21 at T#44 Randolph-Macon
T#34	16	Ohio Wesleyan	13-3	def. Hiram, 75-62; 01/21 at #24 Wooster
T#34	16	UW-River Falls	12-5	LOST at UW-Superior, 82-85; 01/21 at #11 UW-Stevens Point
T#34	16	Hardin-Simmons	12-2	01/19 vs. #6 Mary Hardin-Baylor; 01/21 vs. Concordia (Texas)
#38	10	Wesleyan	13-4	def. #4 Amherst, 68-67; 01/20 vs. Tufts; 01/21 vs. Bates
T#39	6	Christopher Newport	13-3	def. Shenandoah, 77-58; 01/21 at Greensboro
T#39	6	Puget Sound	11-4	01/20 vs. Linfield; 01/21 vs. Lewis and Clark
T#39	6	St. Joseph's (L.I.)	12-2	def. Mount St. Vincent, 110-95; 01/19 vs. SUNY-Old Westbury; 01/21 at Mount St. Mary
T#39	6	Mary Washington	13-4	def. Hood, 63-51; 01/21 at Frostburg State
#43	5	John Carroll	12-3	def. Heidelberg, 94-68; 01/21 at Capital
T#44	4	St. Mary's (Md.)	12-5	def. Salisbury, 78-75; 01/21 at Stevenson
T#44	4	Randolph-Macon	14-3	def. Lynchburg, 85-74; 01/21 vs. T#34 Hampden-Sydney
#46	2	Grinnell	11-1	01/20 vs. Beloit; 01/21 vs. Lawrence
T#47	1	DePauw	11-5	def. Denison, 73-68; 01/21 vs. Oberlin
T#47	1	North Central (Ill.)	10-6	def. #17 Illinois Wesleyan, 82-69; 01/21 at Millikin

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

CMS vs. P-P live stats and/or video here: http://livestats.prestosports.com/pomona/

Starts at 7:30 pm PST.  Should be a great game!

And let's not forget what's at stake here tonight. National ranking, undefeated season, crosstown rivals, first place in the SCIAC, and most importantly, CMS is trying to take The D3 Championship Belt^TM from the Sagehens. Pat Coleman and D-Mac should be courtside with the commentary. This contest should be front page news on Wednesday's wrap.

If only it was that easy to travel cross country to call a game... I would love to... but having a career kind of makes it a challenge. 

[Pat Coleman]

And as for the front page, lack of photos makes it a challenge.

[Greek Tragedy]

Yeah those careers tend to get in the way of fun things on occasion!

[frodotwo]

I won a couple of Portesi pizzas last night ( YUM ) answering the trivia question at the half of the UWSP men's radio broadcast and was wondering if the answer is a record or if anyone even keeps this type of stat anyway.

UWSP prior to last night's game had made a 3 point basket in 577 consecutive games dating back to the 1989-90 season. With 7 treys last night the streak is now 578 straight games. Anyone know of a longer string?

I don't know how long the System has been in effect at Grinnell, but they immediately come to mind as a potential challenger.

[sac]

I won a couple of Portesi pizzas last night ( YUM ) answering the trivia question at the half of the UWSP men's radio broadcast and was wondering if the answer is a record or if anyone even keeps this type of stat anyway.

UWSP prior to last night's game had made a 3 point basket in 577 consecutive games dating back to the 1989-90 season. With 7 treys last night the streak is now 578 straight games. Anyone know of a longer string?

I don't know how long the System has been in effect at Grinnell, but they immediately come to mind as a potential challenger.

I think many colleges and universities have still made a 3 in every game since the lines introduction.  Unfortunately not many schools keep that information handy.

[frodotwo]

I won a couple of Portesi pizzas last night ( YUM ) answering the trivia question at the half of the UWSP men's radio broadcast and was wondering if the answer is a record or if anyone even keeps this type of stat anyway.

UWSP prior to last night's game had made a 3 point basket in 577 consecutive games dating back to the 1989-90 season. With 7 treys last night the streak is now 578 straight games. Anyone know of a longer string?

I don't know how long the System has been in effect at Grinnell, but they immediately come to mind as a potential challenger.

I think many colleges and universities have still made a 3 in every game since the lines introduction.  Unfortunately not many schools keep that information handy.

I figured as much.

[magicman]

#15 Williams with a 76-59 win over Skidmore. Ephs with a 4 pt lead at 43-39 with 13:15 to play, go on a 16-0 run over the next 3:30 to put the game away.

[John Gleich]

I won a couple of Portesi pizzas last night ( YUM ) answering the trivia question at the half of the UWSP men's radio broadcast and was wondering if the answer is a record or if anyone even keeps this type of stat anyway.

UWSP prior to last night's game had made a 3 point basket in 577 consecutive games dating back to the 1989-90 season. With 7 treys last night the streak is now 578 straight games. Anyone know of a longer string?

I don't know how long the System has been in effect at Grinnell, but they immediately come to mind as a potential challenger.

I think many colleges and universities have still made a 3 in every game since the lines introduction.  Unfortunately not many schools keep that information handy.

I thought I remembered hearing that UNLV had the record for consecutive games for a 3 pointer several years ago... and the stats that I can find are all outdated:

http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Three-Point_Field_Goal#Superlatives

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AThree-point_field_goal#Conflict



These are both D-I records, I fully recognize... but I find it interesting that only 3 schools (as of 4 years ago) out of 120 odd D-I school had hit 3's in each of the games since the 3 pointer was instituted.


Since D-III has better than 3 times the member intitutions as D-I, I would expect this number to be higher...

Interestingly, due to certain school's styles (namely Grinnell), I think that some opponents have used a tactic to intentionally not taek 3's...This may skew the D-III results... I don't know of a D-I program that would take this route (doesn't mean it hasn't existed... but I just don't know it).

[Pat Coleman]

As far as basketball goes there are only about 25% more D-III schools than D-I. There are about 330 Division I men's basketball schools, if memory serves.

[Hugenerd]

There are some conflicting reports, but the number is around 340 for D1 (ncaa stats ranks 338 teams for W-L% and ncaa RPI ranks 344 teams, could be due to teams that are reclassifying).   D3 has 405 teams ranked by ncaa stats.

[smedindy]

Of course, there are schools like Belmont that journeyed from NAIA (I beleive) to D-1 so that also confounds the record-keeping.

And then what to do about teams that had an 'experimental' 3-point line when they were trying out the rule?

[John Gleich]

As far as basketball goes there are only about 25% more D-III schools than D-I. There are about 330 Division I men's basketball schools, if memory serves.

There are some conflicting reports, but the number is around 340 for D1 (ncaa stats ranks 338 teams for W-L% and ncaa RPI ranks 344 teams, could be due to teams that are reclassifying).   D3 has 405 teams ranked by ncaa stats.

I think I was getting confused with football...  Makes the discussion even more interesting because of potential Grinnell-foe anti-3-pt gameplans...

I don't know how many schools actually still do that anyway... but it seemed to be a fad 5-6 years ago, maybe?  When Beloit or somebody was setting records for field goal percentage in a game?

[Greek Tragedy]

I won a couple of Portesi pizzas last night ( YUM ) answering the trivia question at the half of the UWSP men's radio broadcast and was wondering if the answer is a record or if anyone even keeps this type of stat anyway.

UWSP prior to last night's game had made a 3 point basket in 577 consecutive games dating back to the 1989-90 season. With 7 treys last night the streak is now 578 straight games. Anyone know of a longer string?

I don't know how long the System has been in effect at Grinnell, but they immediately come to mind as a potential challenger.

I think UNLV and some other D1 school has made a 3-pt shot ever since it's existence.  I remember hearing that at some point.

[scottiedawg]

#2 VA Wesleyan and #3 MIT both go down to unranked teams today.