Top 25 talk

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Sorry for the confusion -- I will adjust my program to always be sure to check the day of the week, not just the date!

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	623	Middlebury	18-0	def. Plattsburgh State, 73-54; def. #13 Williams, 80-79
#2	595	UW-Whitewater	18-2	LOST to #16 UW-Stevens Point, 60-71; def. UW-Eau Claire, 67-49
#3	549	Hope	18-1	won at Trine, 85-62; def. Alma, 104-77
#4	514	Emory	15-3	LOST at Chicago, 102-103; LOST at T#35 Washington U., 88-99
#5	511	Virginia Wesleyan	16-2	won at Bridgewater (Va.), 72-52; def. Eastern Mennonite, 91-65; won at #34 Christopher Newport, 89-74
#6	488	MIT	18-1	def. Clark, 64-46; def. Coast Guard, 80-55
#7	482	Amherst	17-2	won at #13 Williams, 67-65; won at Trinity (Conn.), 61-30
#8	446	Cabrini	18-1	def. Immaculata, 81-74; won at Centenary, 92-71
#9	409	Franklin and Marshall	18-1	def. Johns Hopkins, 65-40; def. Haverford, 77-57
#10	403	Mary Hardin-Baylor	18-1	def. Howard Payne, 83-62; def. Sul Ross State, 90-56
#11	339	Whitworth	16-3	won at George Fox, 85-66; won at Lewis and Clark, 79-59
#12	323	Birmingham-Southern	18-1	won at Colorado College, 53-42; won at Hendrix, 73-64
#13	296	Williams	15-5	LOST to #7 Amherst, 65-67; LOST at #1 Middlebury, 79-80
#14	256	William Paterson	16-3	LOST at Rowan, 62-85
#15	247	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	17-1	def. Occidental, 75-64; def. Cal Lutheran, 59-53
#16	222	UW-Stevens Point	16-4	won at #2 UW-Whitewater, 71-60; won at UW-Superior, 67-58
#17	192	New York University	15-2	LOST to Carnegie Mellon, 68-70; def. Case Western Reserve, 89-80
#18	155	Eastern Connecticut	15-3	LOST to Keene State, 56-64; won at TCNJ, 73-56; LOST at #24 Rhode Island College, 48-66
#19	147	Wooster	16-3	def. Kenyon, 78-68; won at Hiram, 88-73
#20	136	Augustana	15-4	def. #22 Wheaton (Ill.), 70-46; def. Millikin, 98-28
#21	128	Illinois Wesleyan	15-4	def. Millikin, 75-53; LOST at #22 Wheaton (Ill.), 53-60
#22	123	Wheaton (Ill.)	15-4	LOST at #20 Augustana, 46-70; def. #21 Illinois Wesleyan, 60-53
#23	115	Wabash	14-5	LOST at Ohio Wesleyan, 64-66; LOST to Denison, 62-72
#24	76	Rhode Island College	15-3	LOST at T#37 Western Connecticut, 87-93; def. #18 Eastern Connecticut, 66-48
#25	68	Transylvania	17-2	won at Franklin, 73-65; def. Defiance, 75-62

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	49	Lake Forest	15-2	won at Illinois College, 71-47; LOST to T#42 Grinnell, 92-98
#27	48	WPI	14-4	LOST at Springfield, 63-65
#28	40	Oswego State	15-3	won at Geneseo State, 63-49; won at Plattsburgh State, 69-64; won at Potsdam State, 76-56
#29	36	Wittenberg	15-4	def. T#42 DePauw, 66-62; won at Oberlin, 68-56
#30	20	Randolph-Macon	17-3	won at Roanoke, 87-62; def. Guilford, 74-45
#31	19	St. Thomas	13-5	def. Hamline, 89-73; LOST at Gustavus Adolphus, 77-82
#32	16	Bethany	17-2	won at Geneva, 71-54
#33	9	St. Joseph's (L.I.)	15-2	won at NYU-Poly, 84-60; def. SUNY-Purchase, 84-70
#34	8	Christopher Newport	16-4	def. Salisbury, 81-65; won at Averett, 91-72; LOST to #5 Virginia Wesleyan, 74-89
T#35	7	UW-River Falls	15-5	won at UW-Stout, 72-50; def. UW-Platteville, 61-53
T#35	7	Washington U.	14-4	def. Rochester, 83-78; def. #4 Emory, 99-88
T#37	4	Albertus Magnus	17-1	def. Lasell, 90-74; won at Emmanuel, 88-71; won at Mount Ida, 87-74
T#37	4	Lycoming	16-3	LOST to Elizabethtown, 66-69; won at Lebanon Valley, 77-72
T#37	4	St. Mary's (Md.)	14-6	def. Hood, 64-46; LOST at Mary Washington, 65-67
T#37	4	Wesleyan	15-5	def. Connecticut College, 61-57
T#37	4	Western Connecticut	15-4	def. #24 Rhode Island College, 93-87; LOST at Southern Maine, 84-85
T#42	1	DePauw	12-7	LOST at #29 Wittenberg, 62-66; LOST at Ohio Wesleyan, 61-74
T#42	1	Grinnell	15-1	won at Monmouth, 102-90; won at #26 Lake Forest, 98-92
T#42	1	Hampden-Sydney	14-5	won at Lynchburg, 92-59; LOST at Randolph, 60-61

[7express]

I'm interested to see how the top 25 shakes out with regards to the LEC.

I'd assume Eastern falls like a ton of bricks losing to Keene & RIC with a win over TCNJ sandwiched between the 2.  RIC had a loss at Western, but a win over Eastern, I'd look for them to hold steady, probably around 23-28.  Western almost certainly drops out with the loss to USM, and they may or not be replaced by Keene State.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

New Top 25 out.  Someone really does not like Middlebury.

[Mr. Ypsi]

New Top 25 out.  Someone really does not like Middlebury.

They still had them #2; apparently just really likes Va Wes.

[monsoon]

Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

If you look at the schedule, their best win is now the blowout at Brandeis.  Added to the losses they now have, it's not exactly a top ten resume.

[Hugenerd]

Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

A 3 game losing streak (2 of which were this week), will do that to you.

[WUPHF]

Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

If you look at the schedule, their best win is now the blowout at Brandeis.  Added to the losses they now have, it's not exactly a top ten resume.

I have not had a chance to follow the conference as I have in years past, but I cannot help but think that both Washington and Chicago may have given Emory Top 10 quality games.  Or, something like that.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Chicago and Wash U would then have to be ranked in the Top 10... and since they are not that is a tough argument to make.

Also, if Emory was as good as their ranking implied going in, they would have won those games... or at least one to keep from plummeting in the poles.

Remember, they also lost to NYU on the road and barely beat Rochester (who is not doing well this season) at home. Their entire resume is starting to look far less impressive than voters, like myself, thought this team would have or was capable of.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

If you look at the schedule, their best win is now the blowout at Brandeis.  Added to the losses they now have, it's not exactly a top ten resume.

I have not had a chance to follow the conference as I have in years past, but I cannot help but think that both Washington and Chicago may have given Emory Top 10 quality games.  Or, something like that.

Wins over NYU or WashU would justify a top ten ranking - unfortunately they lost both of those games.

[scottiedawg]

#1 Middlebury has lost.

[jaybird44]

Let's not be so quick to kick Emory when it's down, after patting its back for rising to #4 in the poll. 

After all, entering Sunday's game at Wash-U, Emory was shooting 46% from the floor and 38% from 3-point range--and with 160 3s in 17 games to boot.  7 players have double-digit totals in 3-point baskets.  The Eagles were averaging 87.5 ppg in their last 4--against the UAA, which is the 2nd-ranked conference in D3 according to the Massey Ratings.  A pretty formidable crew.  Lethal outside shooting, Austin Claunch's dribble penetration, and Jake Davis and Michael Friedberg inside--ingredients for a strong stew, in my opinion.

Wash-U played very good defense throughout the entire game.  Some may chuckle at that, seeing that Emory was able to put up 88 points.  But, the Bears held Emory to 33 first-half points on 34% shooting and 6-18 from 3-point range.  Wash-U led 46-33 after shooting 50% and 6-10 from 3-point range.

Emory took the ball inside with Claunch and Greven more often in the 2nd half, and that led to the Eagles' 55-point total.  Wash-U nearly matched that with 53 2nd-half points, and the Bears needed career highs from Dylan Richter (33 points), Matt Palucki (19 points), and Alan Aboona (12 assists) to stay at arm's length ahead of Emory; along with Chris Klimek's 15 points.  Not to mention the 15-3 edge in 2nd chance points from a 52-31 rebounding advantage.

Emory had the road-trip misfortune of running into a very deep Wash-U team that is clicking very well, and a Chicago team with Matt Johnson channeling his inner Pete Maravich.  That would be a tough couple of road games for most teams...so I believe we shouldn't throw dirt on Emory just yet.  There is still the 2nd half of the UAA slate left to play.

[scottiedawg]

We'll quickly see how good they are....three game stretch vs. Chicago, WashU and NYU.

[WUPHF]

Let's not be so quick to kick Emory when it's down, after patting its back for rising to #4 in the poll.  [...]  Emory had the road-trip misfortune of running into a very deep Wash-U team that is clicking very well, and a Chicago team with Matt Johnson channeling his inner Pete Maravich.  That would be a tough couple of road games for most teams...so I believe we shouldn't throw dirt on Emory just yet.  There is still the 2nd half of the UAA slate left to play.

Thank you!  My point exactly, but supported with facts and knowledge. 

Emory returns home for the next four games at home with only Case Western, Carnegie Mellon and Rochester to play on the road.  My prediction: Emory finishes the season on a six game winning streak.

[jaybird44]

We will indeed.  I will be shuttling between the Chicago-Emory game and the Wash-U/Rochester game to start the weekend!