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Darryl Nester

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How They Fared (Complete)

Sorry for the confusion -- I will adjust my program to always be sure to check the day of the week, not just the date!

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1623Middlebury18-0def. Plattsburgh State, 73-54; def. #13 Williams, 80-79
#2595UW-Whitewater18-2LOST to #16 UW-Stevens Point, 60-71; def. UW-Eau Claire, 67-49
#3549Hope18-1won at Trine, 85-62; def. Alma, 104-77
#4514Emory15-3LOST at Chicago, 102-103; LOST at T#35 Washington U., 88-99
#5511Virginia Wesleyan16-2won at Bridgewater (Va.), 72-52; def. Eastern Mennonite, 91-65; won at #34 Christopher Newport, 89-74
#6488MIT18-1def. Clark, 64-46; def. Coast Guard, 80-55
#7482Amherst17-2won at #13 Williams, 67-65; won at Trinity (Conn.), 61-30
#8446Cabrini18-1def. Immaculata, 81-74; won at Centenary, 92-71
#9409Franklin and Marshall18-1def. Johns Hopkins, 65-40; def. Haverford, 77-57
#10403Mary Hardin-Baylor18-1def. Howard Payne, 83-62; def. Sul Ross State, 90-56
#11339Whitworth16-3won at George Fox, 85-66; won at Lewis and Clark, 79-59
#12323Birmingham-Southern18-1won at Colorado College, 53-42; won at Hendrix, 73-64
#13296Williams15-5LOST to #7 Amherst, 65-67; LOST at #1 Middlebury, 79-80
#14256William Paterson16-3LOST at Rowan, 62-85
#15247Claremont-Mudd-Scripps17-1def. Occidental, 75-64; def. Cal Lutheran, 59-53
#16222UW-Stevens Point16-4won at #2 UW-Whitewater, 71-60; won at UW-Superior, 67-58
#17192New York University15-2LOST to Carnegie Mellon, 68-70; def. Case Western Reserve, 89-80
#18155Eastern Connecticut15-3LOST to Keene State, 56-64; won at TCNJ, 73-56; LOST at #24 Rhode Island College, 48-66
#19147Wooster16-3def. Kenyon, 78-68; won at Hiram, 88-73
#20136Augustana15-4def. #22 Wheaton (Ill.), 70-46; def. Millikin, 98-28
#21128Illinois Wesleyan15-4def. Millikin, 75-53; LOST at #22 Wheaton (Ill.), 53-60
#22123Wheaton (Ill.)15-4LOST at #20 Augustana, 46-70; def. #21 Illinois Wesleyan, 60-53
#23115Wabash14-5LOST at Ohio Wesleyan, 64-66; LOST to Denison, 62-72
#2476Rhode Island College15-3LOST at T#37 Western Connecticut, 87-93; def. #18 Eastern Connecticut, 66-48
#2568Transylvania17-2won at Franklin, 73-65; def. Defiance, 75-62


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2649Lake Forest15-2won at Illinois College, 71-47; LOST to T#42 Grinnell, 92-98
#2748WPI14-4LOST at Springfield, 63-65
#2840Oswego State15-3won at Geneseo State, 63-49; won at Plattsburgh State, 69-64; won at Potsdam State, 76-56
#2936Wittenberg15-4def. T#42 DePauw, 66-62; won at Oberlin, 68-56
#3020Randolph-Macon17-3won at Roanoke, 87-62; def. Guilford, 74-45
#3119St. Thomas13-5def. Hamline, 89-73; LOST at Gustavus Adolphus, 77-82
#3216Bethany17-2won at Geneva, 71-54
#339St. Joseph's (L.I.)15-2won at NYU-Poly, 84-60; def. SUNY-Purchase, 84-70
#348Christopher Newport16-4def. Salisbury, 81-65; won at Averett, 91-72; LOST to #5 Virginia Wesleyan, 74-89
T#357UW-River Falls15-5won at UW-Stout, 72-50; def. UW-Platteville, 61-53
T#357Washington U.14-4def. Rochester, 83-78; def. #4 Emory, 99-88
T#374Albertus Magnus17-1def. Lasell, 90-74; won at Emmanuel, 88-71; won at Mount Ida, 87-74
T#374Lycoming16-3LOST to Elizabethtown, 66-69; won at Lebanon Valley, 77-72
T#374St. Mary's (Md.)14-6def. Hood, 64-46; LOST at Mary Washington, 65-67
T#374Wesleyan15-5def. Connecticut College, 61-57
T#374Western Connecticut15-4def. #24 Rhode Island College, 93-87; LOST at Southern Maine, 84-85
T#421DePauw12-7LOST at #29 Wittenberg, 62-66; LOST at Ohio Wesleyan, 61-74
T#421Grinnell15-1won at Monmouth, 102-90; won at #26 Lake Forest, 98-92
T#421Hampden-Sydney14-5won at Lynchburg, 92-59; LOST at Randolph, 60-61

7express

I'm interested to see how the top 25 shakes out with regards to the LEC.

I'd assume Eastern falls like a ton of bricks losing to Keene & RIC with a win over TCNJ sandwiched between the 2.  RIC had a loss at Western, but a win over Eastern, I'd look for them to hold steady, probably around 23-28.  Western almost certainly drops out with the loss to USM, and they may or not be replaced by Keene State.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


New Top 25 out.  Someone really does not like Middlebury.
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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 30, 2012, 04:23:20 PM

New Top 25 out.  Someone really does not like Middlebury.

They still had them #2; apparently just really likes Va Wes. ;)

monsoon

Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: monsoon on January 30, 2012, 05:23:59 PM
Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

If you look at the schedule, their best win is now the blowout at Brandeis.  Added to the losses they now have, it's not exactly a top ten resume.
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Hugenerd

Quote from: monsoon on January 30, 2012, 05:23:59 PM
Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

A 3 game losing streak (2 of which were this week), will do that to you.

WUPHF

Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 31, 2012, 07:28:50 AM
Quote from: monsoon on January 30, 2012, 05:23:59 PM
Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

If you look at the schedule, their best win is now the blowout at Brandeis.  Added to the losses they now have, it's not exactly a top ten resume.

I have not had a chance to follow the conference as I have in years past, but I cannot help but think that both Washington and Chicago may have given Emory Top 10 quality games.  Or, something like that.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

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Chicago and Wash U would then have to be ranked in the Top 10... and since they are not that is a tough argument to make.

Also, if Emory was as good as their ranking implied going in, they would have won those games... or at least one to keep from plummeting in the poles.

Remember, they also lost to NYU on the road and barely beat Rochester (who is not doing well this season) at home. Their entire resume is starting to look far less impressive than voters, like myself, thought this team would have or was capable of.
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: WUH on January 31, 2012, 03:06:32 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 31, 2012, 07:28:50 AM
Quote from: monsoon on January 30, 2012, 05:23:59 PM
Voters must have been tripping over each other running away from Emory; -336 points is a big drop.

If you look at the schedule, their best win is now the blowout at Brandeis.  Added to the losses they now have, it's not exactly a top ten resume.

I have not had a chance to follow the conference as I have in years past, but I cannot help but think that both Washington and Chicago may have given Emory Top 10 quality games.  Or, something like that.

Wins over NYU or WashU would justify a top ten ranking - unfortunately they lost both of those games.
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scottiedawg

#1 Middlebury has lost.

jaybird44

Let's not be so quick to kick Emory when it's down, after patting its back for rising to #4 in the poll. 

After all, entering Sunday's game at Wash-U, Emory was shooting 46% from the floor and 38% from 3-point range--and with 160 3s in 17 games to boot.  7 players have double-digit totals in 3-point baskets.  The Eagles were averaging 87.5 ppg in their last 4--against the UAA, which is the 2nd-ranked conference in D3 according to the Massey Ratings.  A pretty formidable crew.  Lethal outside shooting, Austin Claunch's dribble penetration, and Jake Davis and Michael Friedberg inside--ingredients for a strong stew, in my opinion.

Wash-U played very good defense throughout the entire game.  Some may chuckle at that, seeing that Emory was able to put up 88 points.  But, the Bears held Emory to 33 first-half points on 34% shooting and 6-18 from 3-point range.  Wash-U led 46-33 after shooting 50% and 6-10 from 3-point range.

Emory took the ball inside with Claunch and Greven more often in the 2nd half, and that led to the Eagles' 55-point total.  Wash-U nearly matched that with 53 2nd-half points, and the Bears needed career highs from Dylan Richter (33 points), Matt Palucki (19 points), and Alan Aboona (12 assists) to stay at arm's length ahead of Emory; along with Chris Klimek's 15 points.  Not to mention the 15-3 edge in 2nd chance points from a 52-31 rebounding advantage.

Emory had the road-trip misfortune of running into a very deep Wash-U team that is clicking very well, and a Chicago team with Matt Johnson channeling his inner Pete Maravich.  That would be a tough couple of road games for most teams...so I believe we shouldn't throw dirt on Emory just yet.  There is still the 2nd half of the UAA slate left to play.

scottiedawg

We'll quickly see how good they are....three game stretch vs. Chicago, WashU and NYU.

WUPHF

Quote from: jaybird44 on January 31, 2012, 09:00:43 PM
Let's not be so quick to kick Emory when it's down, after patting its back for rising to #4 in the poll.  [...]  Emory had the road-trip misfortune of running into a very deep Wash-U team that is clicking very well, and a Chicago team with Matt Johnson channeling his inner Pete Maravich.  That would be a tough couple of road games for most teams...so I believe we shouldn't throw dirt on Emory just yet.  There is still the 2nd half of the UAA slate left to play.

Thank you!  My point exactly, but supported with facts and knowledge. 

Emory returns home for the next four games at home with only Case Western, Carnegie Mellon and Rochester to play on the road.  My prediction: Emory finishes the season on a six game winning streak.

jaybird44

We will indeed.  I will be shuttling between the Chicago-Emory game and the Wash-U/Rochester game to start the weekend!