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Ralph Turner


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Pointers
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magicman

#3 MIT defeats WPI 71-66 to avenge their only loss this year.

wooscotsfan

#6918
Final: #22 Wooster 91  Allegheny 61      Wooster is now 20-4 on the season.

Congratulations to Wooster on another 20 win season - now 16 consecutive seasons with 20 or more wins!

...and Wooster has been to the NCAA Final Four three times in the last 9 years!  It is great to be a Wooster Fan. :)

Special Thanks to Wooster Coaches Steve Moore and Doug Cline for their leadership of this top program!

John Gleich

Two ranked WIAC teams lose tonight...

#12 UW Stevens Point loses at home to UW Stout  67-64

#19 UW River Falls loses at UW La Crosse  74-66

#9 UW Whitewater does manage to win tonight... and there's a 3 way tie in the WIAC for the final game... and Whitewater and RF play on Saturday
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National Champions: 2015, 2010, 2005, 2004

NCAA appearances: 2018, '15, '14, '13, '12, '11, '10, '09, '08, '07, '05, '04, '03, '00, 1997

WIAC/WSUC Champs: 2015, '14, '13, '11, '09, '07, '05, '03, '02, '01, '00, 1993, '92, '87, '86, '85, '84, '83, '82, '69, '61, '57, '48, '42, '37, '36, '35, '33, '18

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sac

Quote from: PointSpecial on February 15, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Two ranked WIAC teams lose tonight...

#12 UW Stevens Point loses at home to UW Stout  67-64

#19 UW River Falls loses at UW La Crosse  74-66

#9 UW Whitewater does manage to win tonight... and there's a 3 way tie in the WIAC for the final game... and Whitewater and RF play on Saturday

Point what are your thoughts on the possibility of someone other than SP/RF/WW winning the WIAC auto-bid?

John Gleich

Quote from: sac on February 16, 2012, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: PointSpecial on February 15, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Two ranked WIAC teams lose tonight...

#12 UW Stevens Point loses at home to UW Stout  67-64

#19 UW River Falls loses at UW La Crosse  74-66

#9 UW Whitewater does manage to win tonight... and there's a 3 way tie in the WIAC for the final game... and Whitewater and RF play on Saturday

Point what are your thoughts on the possibility of someone other than SP/RF/WW winning the WIAC auto-bid?

I'd say very slim... in part because SP, RF, and WW are such different teams.  SP is guard-heavy but doesn't match up well to big guys, RF has a great front line but not as good guard play.  WW is the most balanced of the top 3... but what it takes to beat one won't help you beat another.  Then again, Superior did beat both RF and WW... though not in back to back games on their opponents home court.

It could always happen... but in addition to the above, I would be very surprised due to the format of the WIAC tourney.

3 years ago, the WIAC went from an 8 team tournament to a 6 team tournament, with the top two seeds getting a bye in the first round and then hosting in the second (reseeded so the top seed plays the lowest remaining seed).  So, not only do the three non-SP/WW/RF teams have an uphill battle, which ever of those three end up at #3 will have that same uphill battle.  They will have to play a game and then travel to a rested opponent... then travel AGAIN, more than likely to play another opponent who has only played one game during the week.


The WIAC tournament has had some historically interesting results.

In the 13 seasons of the WIAC tournament, the #1 seed is 26-5, winning 8 of the titles.  The #2 seed is 20-10, winning 3 titles.  The #3 seed is surprisingly 8-13, never winning the title and only making it to the title game twice.  The #4 seed has won the remaining 2 titles and appeared in 4 title games... though not since 2005.

The 1 and 2 seed have met in the title game each of the last three years... and the tournament is set now up in such a way that it sort of encourages this.

In fact, the 3 seed has taken a thrashing... the 6 seed is 7-6 on the 3 seeds home court in the first round.



So, there ya go... more stuff than you ever wanted to know about the WIAC tournament!
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National Champions: 2015, 2010, 2005, 2004

NCAA appearances: 2018, '15, '14, '13, '12, '11, '10, '09, '08, '07, '05, '04, '03, '00, 1997

WIAC/WSUC Champs: 2015, '14, '13, '11, '09, '07, '05, '03, '02, '01, '00, 1993, '92, '87, '86, '85, '84, '83, '82, '69, '61, '57, '48, '42, '37, '36, '35, '33, '18

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Darryl Nester

How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1623Hope23-1won at Olivet, 75-60; 02/18 vs. Trine
#2579Amherst22-202/18 vs. Hamilton
#3551MIT23-1won at T#38 WPI, 71-66
#4527Middlebury22-202/18 vs. #35 Williams
#5512Mary Hardin-Baylor22-102/16 vs. Schreiner; 02/18 at Texas Lutheran
#6494Cabrini24-1won at Keystone, 96-85
#7462Virginia Wesleyan20-3won at Lynchburg, 73-62; 02/18 vs. Emory and Henry; 02/19 vs. Washington and Lee
#8446Birmingham-Southern23-1won at Berry, 69-58; 02/18 vs. Oglethorpe
#9429UW-Whitewater21-3def. UW-Oshkosh, 76-64; 02/18 at #19 UW-River Falls
#10419Whitworth21-3won at Whitman, 81-74; 02/18 vs. Willamette
#11385Claremont-Mudd-Scripps22-1won at Cal Lutheran, 57-46; 02/18 at Occidental
#12342UW-Stevens Point19-5LOST to UW-Stout, 64-67; 02/18 at UW-Eau Claire
#13335Franklin and Marshall22-2won at Johns Hopkins, 71-63; 02/18 at Dickinson
#14300Transylvania22-2won at Hanover, 74-65; 02/18 at Bluffton
#15250William Paterson22-3def. CCNY, 75-49
#16229Oswego State20-3def. Geneseo State, 67-56; 02/17 vs. Buffalo State; 02/18 vs. Fredonia State
#17189Augustana18-502/18 at Carthage
#18143Emory18-402/17 at Carnegie Mellon; 02/19 at Case Western Reserve
#19138UW-River Falls18-6LOST at UW-La Crosse, 66-74; 02/18 vs. #9 UW-Whitewater
#20107Albertus Magnus23-1won at Johnson and Wales, 87-73; 02/18 vs. St. Joseph's (Maine)
#2189Wittenberg19-5won at DePauw, 56-55; 02/18 vs. Hiram
#2284Wooster20-4def. Allegheny, 91-61; 02/18 vs. DePauw
#2377Randolph-Macon20-4def. Ferrum, 72-60; 02/18 at Hampden-Sydney
#2457Washington U.17-502/17 at Brandeis; 02/19 at #30 New York University
#2550Hartwick22-202/18 vs. Stevens


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2648Western Connecticut19-5LOST at T#38 Rhode Island College, 78-79; 02/18 vs. Plymouth State
#2744Keene State18-6LOST to #36 Eastern Connecticut, 62-65; 02/18 at T#38 Rhode Island College
#2842Lake Forest20-2def. Knox, 64-50; 02/18 at Grinnell
#2928Wheaton (Ill.)18-502/18 vs. North Park
#3020New York University18-402/17 vs. Chicago; 02/19 vs. #24 Washington U.
#3119Bethany21-3def. Westminster (Pa.), 91-65; 02/18 at St. Vincent
#3218Wesleyan19-502/18 vs. Bowdoin
#3315Illinois Wesleyan18-6won at Millikin, 84-45; 02/18 vs. Elmhurst
#3414Christopher Newport20-4won at Shenandoah, 69-60; 02/18 vs. Averett
#3510Williams17-702/18 at #4 Middlebury
#369Eastern Connecticut19-5won at #27 Keene State, 65-62; 02/18 at Mass-Boston
#378Gustavus Adolphus19-5won at St. John's, 58-40; won at Concordia-Moorhead, 61-43; 02/18 vs. Bethel
T#387North Central (Ill.)17-7won at North Park, 75-49; 02/18 vs. Millikin
T#387Rhode Island College19-5def. #26 Western Connecticut, 79-78; 02/18 vs. #27 Keene State
T#387WPI17-6LOST to #3 MIT, 66-71; 02/18 vs. Clark
#416Lycoming18-6won at Elizabethtown, 69-68; 02/18 vs. Alvernia
#424Wabash17-7LOST to Ohio Wesleyan, 81-82; 02/18 at Oberlin
T#431Edgewood18-6LOST at Concordia (Wis.), 66-69; 02/18 vs. Concordia (Ill.)
T#431Hobart19-402/17 at Bard; 02/18 at Vassar

magicman

#6923
#16 Oswego State comes from 10 points down against Buffalo State and scores the final 15 points of the game to win 78-73 and stay perfect in the SUNYAC at 17-0. It marked the 31st straight regular season conference win for the Lakers which is the 2nd longest active streak in Division 3. Oswego's overall record improves to 21-3, 21-2 in D3 as they lost 1 game to DI Texas-Pan American.

Darryl Nester

How They Fared (Complete)

I hope you'll forgive my little celebration at #14 ...

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1623Hope24-1won at Olivet, 75-60; def. Trine, 65-46
#2579Amherst23-2def. Hamilton, 86-66
#3551MIT23-1won at T#38 WPI, 71-66
#4527Middlebury23-2def. #35 Williams, 73-61
#5512Mary Hardin-Baylor24-1def. Schreiner, 79-74; won at Texas Lutheran, 60-53
#6494Cabrini24-1won at Keystone, 96-85
#7462Virginia Wesleyan22-3won at Lynchburg, 73-62; def. Emory and Henry, 84-60; def. Washington and Lee, 77-49
#8446Birmingham-Southern24-1won at Berry, 69-58; def. Oglethorpe, 92-80
#9429UW-Whitewater22-3def. UW-Oshkosh, 76-64; won at #19 UW-River Falls, 55-53
#10419Whitworth22-3won at Whitman, 81-74; def. Willamette, 93-65
#11385Claremont-Mudd-Scripps23-1won at Cal Lutheran, 57-46; won at Occidental, 55-47
#12342UW-Stevens Point19-6LOST to UW-Stout, 64-67; LOST at UW-Eau Claire, 58-77
#13335Franklin and Marshall23-2won at Johns Hopkins, 71-63; won at Dickinson, 63-53
#14300Transylvania22-3won at Hanover, 74-65; LOST at Bluffton, 65-83 ;D ;D ;D
#15250William Paterson22-3def. CCNY, 75-49
#16229Oswego State22-3def. Geneseo State, 67-56; def. Buffalo State, 78-73; def. Fredonia State, 75-44
#17189Augustana19-5won at Carthage, 74-73
#18143Emory19-5LOST at Carnegie Mellon, 79-82; won at Case Western Reserve, 105-71
#19138UW-River Falls18-7LOST at UW-La Crosse, 66-74; LOST to #9 UW-Whitewater, 53-55
#20107Albertus Magnus24-1won at Johnson and Wales, 87-73; def. St. Joseph's (Maine), 75-62
#2189Wittenberg20-5won at DePauw, 56-55; def. Hiram, 72-50
#2284Wooster21-4def. Allegheny, 91-61; def. DePauw, 74-67
#2377Randolph-Macon20-5def. Ferrum, 72-60; LOST at Hampden-Sydney, 71-79
#2457Washington U.18-6LOST at Brandeis, 69-79; won at #30 New York University, 74-68
#2550Hartwick23-2def. Stevens, 91-76


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2648Western Connecticut20-5LOST at T#38 Rhode Island College, 78-79; def. Plymouth State, 90-70
#2744Keene State18-7LOST to #36 Eastern Connecticut, 62-65; LOST at T#38 Rhode Island College, 57-65
#2842Lake Forest20-3def. Knox, 64-50; LOST at Grinnell, 101-112
#2928Wheaton (Ill.)19-5def. North Park, 75-59
#3020New York University19-5def. Chicago, 79-69; LOST to #24 Washington U., 68-74
#3119Bethany22-3def. Westminster (Pa.), 91-65; won at St. Vincent, 76-64
#3218Wesleyan20-5def. Bowdoin, 78-59
#3315Illinois Wesleyan19-6won at Millikin, 84-45; def. Elmhurst, 79-60
#3414Christopher Newport21-4won at Shenandoah, 69-60; def. Averett, 99-95
#3510Williams17-8LOST at #4 Middlebury, 61-73
#369Eastern Connecticut20-5won at #27 Keene State, 65-62; won at Mass-Boston, 76-68
#378Gustavus Adolphus19-6won at St. John's, 58-40; won at Concordia-Moorhead, 61-43; LOST to Bethel, 52-68
T#387North Central (Ill.)18-7won at North Park, 75-49; def. Millikin, 91-58
T#387Rhode Island College20-5def. #26 Western Connecticut, 79-78; def. #27 Keene State, 65-57
T#387WPI18-6LOST to #3 MIT, 66-71; def. Clark, 75-54
#416Lycoming18-7won at Elizabethtown, 69-68; LOST to Alvernia, 60-68
#424Wabash18-7LOST to Ohio Wesleyan, 81-82; won at Oberlin, 69-32
T#431Edgewood19-6LOST at Concordia (Wis.), 66-69; def. Concordia (Ill.), 74-62
T#431Hobart21-4won at Bard, 65-48; won at Vassar, 69-43

Greek Tragedy

Great work, like usual, DN.
Pointers
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TGHIJGSTO!!!

mailsy

There is another top 25 poll coming out tomorrow, right?  There certainly won't be a whole lot of movement out of the top 10.
Cabrini Cavaliers 2012 National Runner-Up.
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pjunito

DN, the last three weeks, I have been doing all this work on researching how the 25 fared during thier weeks.... All I had to do was come to this room earlier....  Thanks!! Great work...

Go Albertus!

Hugenerd

Thats interesting, in their only game of the week MIT avenged their only loss of the season, beating WPI on the road, and then somehow lost 25 points in the new Week 12 poll to drop from #3 to #4. 

pjunito

Nerd, do you think WPI losing earlier in the week devalued slightly the MIT victory?