Top 25 talk

[madzillagd]

Just because they were 24th overall doesn't mean that voter didn't have them ranked higher.

I get that, just interesting to me that a voter would think that a team that finished 24th in the Final Poll last year, would bring back the same players + recruits and be the #1 team over someone like IWU.  IWU brings back most of their guys, adds some high profile transfers, did better in the tournament and ended up 15 spots higher in the final poll than Wheaton.  Obviously most of the voters in general think highly of Wheaton because they jumped up 19 spots overall so it's not like it's one person that thinks they will do well.  Unfortunately we only usually get to see Dave's picks and a few comments from others on who they voted on but we can open it up to the board.

As of now, on the D3Hoops poll here's how many votes for each team for the #1 spot:
Amherst 83
IWU 70
Williams 42
UW-SP 56
Wheaton 34
Other 112 

Anybody want to throw out their logic for their pick?  Who are some of the "others" people think are the #1 team in the nation? 

[Greek Tragedy]

Preseason polls are so overrated...and I think it tends to be a disadvantage to those that aren't in it because they have to work that much harder to get noticed.

[Just Bill]

Well knock me over with a feather - my PP ballot (made out yesterday early evening) matches the official poll exactly thru the top 6, and, while rarely if ever an exact match after that, has the same 25 teams.

Congratulations official voters - you're getting closer and closer to The Truth^TM!

Oh, not This^TM again!

You got something against ^TM?!  What are you, a Chinese industrialist?!

I heard somewhere the The Belt^TM has a TM^TM.  Do you want to incur the wrath of The Belt^TMTM?

Weasels on line 1...

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Just because they were 24th overall doesn't mean that voter didn't have them ranked higher.

I get that, just interesting to me that a voter would think that a team that finished 24th in the Final Poll last year, would bring back the same players + recruits and be the #1 team over someone like IWU.

Maybe that voter is connected to IWU and didn't want to vote for their own school? 

Maybe they just know something we don't?

I'm still shocked Amherst is #1.  They lost a lot from a team I didn't think was entirely dominant (even if they were the best).  I know there's a lot of "it's there's until they lose" voters out there, but it was still surprising to me.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Well Southern Vermont, they of 1-24 last year, they got a new coach, about eight new players and a new outlook on life.  SVC 88 - Williams 87.

Let the games begin!

[John Gleich]

#4 UWSP beats Lawrence 99-73.

Point led by as many as 19 in the first half and 14 at halftime, but Larry U cut the lead to 6 at 67-61 with about 11:30 left in the 2nd half. But Tyler Tillema really put the Pointers on his back in the second half.

Hass ended up with 33, hitting 7/7 3's and despite being 0-4 from the FT line (including missing the front end of a 1 and 1). Tillema ended with 23, 16 of those in the second half.

[John Gleich]

#6 North Central on the ropes at home... Depauw is leading NCC 59-47 with 5 minutes left.

Vid - http://new.livestream.com/accounts/3095812/events/2416052
Stats - http://www.sidearmstats.com/ncc/mbball/


Make that 62-47. Yikes.  4:30 left

Off an NCC miss, DePauw throws one up and it goes in, 64-47.

NCC gets a bucket and gets fouled... 64-49  but they miss the FT and foul on the rebound. NCC shooing < 50% from the FT line.

DePauw drops 2 in, 66-49 DePauw.

NCC trying to hang, they hit a 3, 66-52, but there's only 3 minutes.

[John Gleich]

Two NCC FT's cuts it to 12 with 1:33 left.

NCC riding a 20 game home winning streak going back two seasons.

DePauw answers with 2 FT's of their own. 70-56 DePauw.

NCC turns it over and fouls.  This one's over.

[John Gleich]

And a few miles to the north, Wittenberg is giving #5 Wheaton all it can handle... THOSE Tigers are leading the Thunder 37-36 with 9:06 left in the 2nd half.

[John Gleich]

DePauw finishes the upset 77-64 over #6 NCC and ends the 20 game home winning streak.

[John Gleich]

Witt leads Wheaton 44-42 with the ball after 2 missed FT's by the Thunder. 6:04 left.

[John Gleich]

Wheaton makes 1/2 and Wittenberg travels on the next possession. A nice layup by Wheaton makes it 46-45.


Neither team wants to win this game... Witt misses the first FT after a foul on the other end. Under 3:40, makes the second. 47-45.

Wheaton misses a wild shot, Witt with the rebound.

Witt misses but gets the O board and then gets fouled, 2 shots coming.

Witt misses another FT and another.

Wheaton scores to tie it at 47

[John Gleich]

Wheaton missing FT's... missed last 3, made one, 46-43 Wittenberg leads with the ball 4:40. Wittenberg with happy feet, 2nd TO in a row #d3h


Neither team wants to win. Witt and Wheaton both have missed a bunch of FT's in the last few mins. Witt holds a 2 pt lead #d3h


Wheaton ties it on a 15 footer but Wittenberg nails a 3 for a 50-47 lead. Wheaton missed a 15 ft shot and Witt gets the board. 2:15 #d3h



Off a Witt miss, Peters gets fouled for Wheaton, to the line, 1/2 50-48 Witt 1:47 but ball OB to Wheaton. #d3h


Peters nails a 3 with 1:25 to go to put Wheaton up 51-50. Witt responds with a 3 of their own 53-51 Witt leads 1:01 left. #d3h

Wheaton to the line for 2, down 2. :48 left. 2/2, ties it at 53 #d3h Timeout Wheaton

[John Gleich]

Peters on O and on D for Wheaton, gets a steal. :17 left, Wheaton ball. 53-53 tie game vs. Wittenberg.

[John Gleich]

Wheaton missed a long 3 and tip in for the win, going to OT vs. Wittenberg.

Wheaton didn't really run much there... interesting.