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David Collinge

Quote from: nescac1 on December 19, 2013, 04:22:35 PM
Wooster's stats are by far the least impressive of the top five [...]

But Wooster's played much better free throw defense than the other top 5 teams.

sac

Wooster's played a pretty tough schedule.  Their only two softies, Oberlin and Wabash, are league games won on the road by 19 and 13.

John Gleich

Anybody else intrigued by the fact that the Amherst-Emerson result hasn't even shown up on Massey?

I emailed him and let him no (strangely, to no response... every other time I've noted a difference, I've at least gotten an acknowledgement...).

The game slot even has been removed.
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KnightSlappy

Quote from: John Gleich on December 20, 2013, 12:28:25 AM
Anybody else intrigued by the fact that the Amherst-Emerson result hasn't even shown up on Massey?

I emailed him and let him no (strangely, to no response... every other time I've noted a difference, I've at least gotten an acknowledgement...).

The game slot even has been removed.

Confirmation of his (i.e. Massey's) WIAC bias.

John Gleich

Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 20, 2013, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on December 20, 2013, 12:28:25 AM
Anybody else intrigued by the fact that the Amherst-Emerson result hasn't even shown up on Massey?

I emailed him and let him no (strangely, to no response... every other time I've noted a difference, I've at least gotten an acknowledgement...).

The game slot even has been removed.

Confirmation of his (i.e. Massey's) WIAC bias.

That's GOTTA be it. I don't know why I didn't realize it!
UWSP Men's Basketball

National Champions: 2015, 2010, 2005, 2004

NCAA appearances: 2018, '15, '14, '13, '12, '11, '10, '09, '08, '07, '05, '04, '03, '00, 1997

WIAC/WSUC Champs: 2015, '14, '13, '11, '09, '07, '05, '03, '02, '01, '00, 1993, '92, '87, '86, '85, '84, '83, '82, '69, '61, '57, '48, '42, '37, '36, '35, '33, '18

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KnightSlappy

Quote from: John Gleich on December 20, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 20, 2013, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on December 20, 2013, 12:28:25 AM
Anybody else intrigued by the fact that the Amherst-Emerson result hasn't even shown up on Massey?

I emailed him and let him no (strangely, to no response... every other time I've noted a difference, I've at least gotten an acknowledgement...).

The game slot even has been removed.

Confirmation of his (i.e. Massey's) WIAC bias.

That's GOTTA be it. I don't know why I didn't realize it!

When did you send him the note? Typically when he makes a manual change, it doesn't show up until the full database update each sunday/monday.

John Gleich

Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 20, 2013, 11:38:37 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on December 20, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 20, 2013, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on December 20, 2013, 12:28:25 AM
Anybody else intrigued by the fact that the Amherst-Emerson result hasn't even shown up on Massey?

I emailed him and let him no (strangely, to no response... every other time I've noted a difference, I've at least gotten an acknowledgement...).

The game slot even has been removed.

Confirmation of his (i.e. Massey's) WIAC bias.

That's GOTTA be it. I don't know why I didn't realize it!

When did you send him the note? Typically when he makes a manual change, it doesn't show up until the full database update each sunday/monday.

December 8th.

Maybe the disappearance is in preparation for a manual change...? Or maybe he's a closet Amherst fan and wants to see them stay at #2...

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WIAC/WSUC Champs: 2015, '14, '13, '11, '09, '07, '05, '03, '02, '01, '00, 1993, '92, '87, '86, '85, '84, '83, '82, '69, '61, '57, '48, '42, '37, '36, '35, '33, '18

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magicman

I emailed Mr. Massey a couple of weeks ago about some missing scores. He responded  in about 10 minutes and explained if the score isn't reported to the NCAA by the SID it doesn't get picked up by his computer as it is apparently tied into that website. I did notice that about a day or so later all the missing scores were added to his ratings.

Darryl Nester

Just a note to say that I am not planning to post a "How They Fared" report this week.  I am assuming that the next poll comes out on Dec. 30 -- which would be consistent with past years.

sac

Bethany at 9-0 and 3-0 against the OAC including wins over Mt. Union and Baldwin-Wallace should start getting consideration in the poll.

Pat Coleman

Actually, we're taking this week *and* next week off. Many of our voters are out of the office this week and traveling at tournaments next week and we will vote again after the first of the year.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
Actually, we're taking this week *and* next week off. ...
Good to know.  I'll still plan to post a report this Sunday night, but won't be able to post until about 10:00pm (EST) ... but given the poll schedule, that should not present a problem.

kiltedbryan

Quote from: nescac1 on December 19, 2013, 04:22:35 PM
Wooster's stats are by far the least impressive of the top five, and they appear to lack much of an inside presence this year. They seem like a top-15 team, but not really a top-five team, at this point -- 42 percent from the field, even vs. a very good schedule to date, is not very good, and reflects the fact that they are heavily reliant on perimeter players to score.  I wonder how a loss (to a non D-3 team, so hard to judge) will affect the ranking. 

I generally agree with your assessment of Wooster.

Though actually I think the ability of this year's team to still similar production in the paint as last year's team has been something of a nice surprise so far, considering the Scots graduated two senior posts last year in Josh Claytor and Jake Mays.

Last season those two combined to shoot 208-361 (57.6%), averaging 16.9 PPG and were responsible for 23.0% of Wooster's total points.

Through 9 games this year their replacements - freshman Dan Fanelly and sophmore Josh Kipfer - have combined for a remarkably similar line: 61-102 (59.8%) from the field, 15.5 PPG, and responsibility for 22.5% of Wooster's total points.

It's true that no one's going to confuse Wooster for a dominant low post team (which has been true for awhile), but at least so far the "inside presence" seems similar to last year.

kiltedbryan

Quote from: sac on December 19, 2013, 10:07:36 PM
Wooster's played a pretty tough schedule.  Their only two softies, Oberlin and Wabash, are league games won on the road by 19 and 13.

Wooster's opponents to date are 55-25 (.688) in non-Wooster games. Fourteen of those losses belong to the aforementioned Oberlin and Wabash; the other seven opponents are 51-11 (.823) in non-Wooster games to-date. Though many of the games have been close, Wooster is 6-1 against those seven teams.

smedindy

BTW, Massey now has the Emerson / Amherst game. It's the third most unlikely result of the year thus far, behind Principia / Millikin and Transylvania / Wilmington.

That of course could change due to fluctuations in rankings going forward, but I don't think anything can catch Principia / Millikin...
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