Top 25 talk

[SgtPaul]

Pointers finished off a good week on the road beating UW LaCrosse 91-72.  Trevor Haas set the school record for points in a game with 45. 

[hplc2222]

is it ok if i pencil in wins for dubuque, augustana, illinois wesleyan, oglethorp uw whitewater, colorado college, whitworth, and  a loss for carthage, in tonights games?

[Mr. Ypsi]

is it ok if i pencil in wins for dubuque, augustana, illinois wesleyan, oglethorp uw whitewater, colorado college, whitworth, and  a loss for carthage, in tonights games?

I would have thought so, but Augie is down to Elmhurst, 36-23, at the half.

[smedindy]

I know they've lost seven games already, but I would be absolutely terrified to play Mary Hardin-Baylor right now.  Best seven loss team in d3, I think.

I believe that the established precedent on this board is that, if you are going to make such a statement, you must follow it up with detailed statistics.  Please begin with a list of all teams in D3 with 7 losses, and your analysis of the quality of those losses.  You can then move on to telling us why MHB deserves to be considered the best of that group. (And perhaps even better than some of the six- and five-loss teams.  We'll need a list of those, too.)  If, at some point, you feel obliged to post increasingly incoherent comments, and/or post in all caps, we would certainly understand.

Using Massey, here are the best X loss teams in the D-3 Universe:

0 - UW - SP
1 - Wooster
2 - Illinois Wesleyan
3 - UW - Whitewater
4 - Randolph Macon
5 - Wilmington
6 - Wheaton  (IL)
7 - Hope
8 - Schreiner
9 - Ohio Northern
10 - Salisbury St.
11- Heidelberg
12 - Pacific Luthern
13 - Washington (MD)
14 - Rust
15 - North Park
16 - D'Youville
17 - UC Santa Cruz

YMMV. Consult your dealer for options and accessories. If symptoms persist, treat with Wild Turkey and hammer.

Hope has 6 losses, Massey is incorrectly counting their exhibition loss to Grand Valley State.

Not incorrect in Massey's universe, since it's a game that counted for GVSU.

[smedindy]

And smedindy... Salisbury got rid of "State" many years ago

Welp, so they did. I was typing in a hurry and making a point that wasn't related to the darn name, trying to get all of the luddites under control here. That's a tough job. And you know how HARD it was to find some of those teams. And the fact UC-Santa Cruz, with 17 losses was higher than D'Youville with 16? 

[hplc2222]

can i pencil in colorado college losing ?

[Titan Q]

is it ok if i pencil in wins for dubuque, augustana, illinois wesleyan, oglethorp uw whitewater, colorado college, whitworth, and  a loss for carthage, in tonights games?

I can tell you that there are not any road wins that get penciled in in the CCIW.  I suspect most leagues work the same way.

[Mr. Ypsi]

is it ok if i pencil in wins for dubuque, augustana, illinois wesleyan, oglethorp uw whitewater, colorado college, whitworth, and  a loss for carthage, in tonights games?

I can tell you that there are not any road wins that get penciled in in the CCIW.  I suspect most leagues work the same way.

Well, there are a few that can be penciled in, but only a fool would ink any in!

[hplc2222]

hopw do i get thbe dubuque score?

[Titan Q]

hopw do i get thbe dubuque score?

http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/loras.portal#

[frodotwo]

Stockton should be ranked number 1 , they just beat william paterson 81-57, started so strong defensivly, william paterson only had 5 points in the first 10 minutes. Now Stockton is 14-3, anbd teams in the rankings are losing all over the place.
Stockton for number 1

They are ranked #1...................................in the NJAC right??
Nowhere else......... period.

[sac]

I know they've lost seven games already, but I would be absolutely terrified to play Mary Hardin-Baylor right now.  Best seven loss team in d3, I think.

I believe that the established precedent on this board is that, if you are going to make such a statement, you must follow it up with detailed statistics.  Please begin with a list of all teams in D3 with 7 losses, and your analysis of the quality of those losses.  You can then move on to telling us why MHB deserves to be considered the best of that group. (And perhaps even better than some of the six- and five-loss teams.  We'll need a list of those, too.)  If, at some point, you feel obliged to post increasingly incoherent comments, and/or post in all caps, we would certainly understand.

Using Massey, here are the best X loss teams in the D-3 Universe:

0 - UW - SP
1 - Wooster
2 - Illinois Wesleyan
3 - UW - Whitewater
4 - Randolph Macon
5 - Wilmington
6 - Wheaton  (IL)
7 - Hope
8 - Schreiner
9 - Ohio Northern
10 - Salisbury St.
11- Heidelberg
12 - Pacific Luthern
13 - Washington (MD)
14 - Rust
15 - North Park
16 - D'Youville
17 - UC Santa Cruz

YMMV. Consult your dealer for options and accessories. If symptoms persist, treat with Wild Turkey and hammer.

Hope has 6 losses, Massey is incorrectly counting their exhibition loss to Grand Valley State.

Not incorrect in Massey's universe, since it's a game that counted for GVSU.

It did not count for GVSU either, clearly marked as exhibition
http://www.gvsulakers.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/grva-m-baskbl-sched.html

[frodotwo]

Stockton should be ranked number 1 , they just beat william paterson 81-57, started so strong defensivly, william paterson only had 5 points in the first 10 minutes. Now Stockton is 14-3, anbd teams in the rankings are losing all over the place.
Stockton for number 1

They are ranked #1...................................in the NJAC right??
Nowhere else......... period.

My mistake, they're not even #1 in their own conference 

[hplc2222]

Rutgers Newark is 13-5, (9-2 in NJAC) in first place in the conference, and just rolled off 7 wins ina row. They may get some votes tomorrow.

Stockton plays Rutgers Newark on Saturday. If Stockton wins that game, they for sure will be number 1.

[hplc2222]

85 team list
(categories- 0 loss, 1 loss, 2 loss, 3 loss, 4+ loss and votes, 4 loss no votes)

0 loss (3)
uw stevens point-------------18-0  #1 
cabrini------------------------ 16-0  #3
suny purchase----------------14-0  #14

1 loss (8)
wpi--------------------------------16-1 #5
st norbert-------------------------15-1 #11
wesley----------------------------15-1 #12
albertus magnus-----------------15-1 #20
bowdoin--------------------------15-1 #22
brockport state------------------14-1 #23
dubuque-------------------------16-1 #25
texas-dallas---------------------15-1 #29


2 loss (10)
wooster-------------------------15-2  #2
amherst-------------------------15-2 #6 
washington u-------------------13-2  #8
mary washington---------------15-2 #15
messiah-------------------------14-2 #17
oglethorpe----------------------15-2 #21
st vincent-----------------------15-2  #38
staten island--------------------15-2 # 46
genesco state-------------------13-2 #49
husson--------------------------14-2  no votes

3 loss (16)
illinois wesleyan----------------15-3  #4
uw whitewater---------------- -15-3 #7
williams-------------------------14-3 #9
st thomas---------------------- 13-3 #10
augustana----------------------15-3 #13
wittenberg----------------------14-3 #18
ohio wesleyan------------------14-3 #19
dickinson-----------------------14-3 #26
mount union-------------------13-3 #27
richard stockton---------------14-3 #32
scranton-----------------------14-3 #51
penn state behrend-----------14-3 no votes
hilbert--------------------------13-3 no votes
centre------------------------- 12-3 no votes
vassar----------------------- --13-3 no votes
plattsburg state----------------13-3 no votes

others receiving votes last vote (20)
virginia wesleyan---------------13-4 #16
st marys md--------------------.12-4 #24
whitworth---------------------- -13-4 #28
william paterson----------------14-4 #30
stevenson-----------------------13-4 #31
christopher newport------------12-4 #33
auguburg------------------------11-6 #34
depauw -------------------------13-4 #35
colorado college---------------- 12-4 #36
rose-hulman--------------------13-4 #37
springfield----------------------13-4 #39
calvin----------------------------13-4 #40
babson------------------------- 13-4 #41
emory---------------------------11-4 #42
mit------------------------------12-4 #43
randolph macon----------------13-4 #44
hampden - sydney-------------10-7 #45
carthage------------------------12-6 #47   
eastern conneticut-------------13-4 #48
marietta------------------------13-4 #50


The additional 4 loss teams (28)
concordia texas---------00---13-4
marian-------------- ----------14-4
lakeland---------------------- 14-4
milwalkie engineering------- 14-4
mcdaniel--------------------- 13-4
sunyit------------------------ -9-4 
nicols------------------------- 12-4
eastern nararene------------ 11-4
mitchell---------------------- 12-4
daniel webster--------------- 12-4

gwynedd-mercy------------- 13-4
alfred------------------------ 11-4
johnson and wales---------- 13-4
defiance--------------------- 13-4
guilford---------------------- 13-4
lynchburg -------------------13-4
bethany--------------------- 14-4
claremont-mudd scripps----12-4
cal lutheran----------------- 14-4
hobart----------------------- 12-4

mount st mary-------------- 13-4
hood------------------------- 13-4
macmurray----------------- 12-4
st olaf----------------------- 13-4
grinnell---------------------- 12-4
endicot-----------------------13-4
lewis and clark-------------- 12-4
nyu---------------------------11-4


playing sunday of those 85 teams -
washington u, sunyit, emory,  nyu, hilbert (postponed), centre, mt union - 7 teams

playing monday of those 85 teams -
suny purchase, albertus magnus, christopher newport, st marys md, mit, texas dallas, - 7 teams