Top 25 talk

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Good to know every D3 basketball school is pulling in at least 2.3 million dollars in revenue.

Is there a single d3 men's basketball team turning a profit at the end of the year?  Even one?

You'd have to think Hope or IWU would be the likeliest candidates, what with large pools of people willing to pay actual money to watch games.

Even then it seems like an iffy proposition.


It also makes me wonder what kind of cash is floating around Stockton.

[David Collinge]

de3 basdketbazll is a multi billion dollzar a year indusztry

A Romanian spambot.

Seriously, can't we all agree to stop feeding this troll? Please? EDIT: Thanks, Pat, maybe now I can post without the message "while you were typing 5 new replies have been posted."

In the meantime, a new Top 25 poll has been released. Not a whole lot of changes overall; in fact, nobody moved more than 5 positions. UTD and DePauw crack the poll (aside: four NCAC teams, woohoo!), Albertus moves up and will likely move up more next week, the one dogged Cabrini voter sticks to his guns. Ahh, actual top 25 discussion, ain't it nice?

[frodotwo]

At the half

St. Mary's   26   Chris Newport   25   http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/smcm.portal
UT Dallas   39   Hardin SImmons   28     http://cometsports.utdallas.edu/showcase/?Live=231#close

[lildave678]

Good to know every D3 basketball school is pulling in at least 2.3 million dollars in revenue.

Is there a single d3 men's basketball team turning a profit at the end of the year?  Even one?

You'd have to think Hope or IWU would be the likeliest candidates, what with large pools of people willing to pay actual money to watch games.

Even then it seems like an iffy proposition.


It also makes me wonder what kind of cash is floating around Stockton.

Exactly, I know every D3 game I've been to, save the NCAA tournament games at Willy P/Middlebury when AMC got there, there was no charge for it. I'm assuming its like that in most of D3, where sporting events do not generate revenue through admissions.

[John Gleich]

Good to know every D3 basketball school is pulling in at least 2.3 million dollars in revenue.

Is there a single d3 men's basketball team turning a profit at the end of the year?  Even one?

You'd have to think Hope or IWU would be the likeliest candidates, what with large pools of people willing to pay actual money to watch games.

Even then it seems like an iffy proposition.


It also makes me wonder what kind of cash is floating around Stockton.

Not even close. Every program that I know of has a backcourt club or something similar... and the t-shirt table is for the same reason... to raise funds for the program. And the funds that are brought in from the gate go into the general athletic fund, I would think (which, in turn, offsets the deficit that that fund has).

Most schools that I know of let students in for free... if they were trying to make loads of money, then they'd charge everybody.

[Greek Tragedy]

Just taking a look at Richard Stockton, uh, I mean, the Top 25. Interesting to see Wooster drop 3 spots after losing at RV and now ranked De Pauw while Augustana drops just one spot after losing at Elmhurst.

I may have even kept Wooster #2 as Cabrini may be undefeated but their schedule lacks, right?

[mailsy]

Just taking a look at Richard Stockton, uh, I mean, the Top 25. Interesting to see Wooster drop 3 spots after losing at RV and now ranked De Pauw while Augustana drops just one spot after losing at Elmhurst.

I may have even kept Wooster #2 as Cabrini may be undefeated but their schedule lacks, right?

Out of conference was good. They have #9 Wesley on Feb 3. Conference... eh, not so good. 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Good to know every D3 basketball school is pulling in at least 2.3 million dollars in revenue.

Is there a single d3 men's basketball team turning a profit at the end of the year?  Even one?

You'd have to think Hope or IWU would be the likeliest candidates, what with large pools of people willing to pay actual money to watch games.

Even then it seems like an iffy proposition.


It also makes me wonder what kind of cash is floating around Stockton.

Not even close. Every program that I know of has a backcourt club or something similar... and the t-shirt table is for the same reason... to raise funds for the program. And the funds that are brought in from the gate go into the general athletic fund, I would think (which, in turn, offsets the deficit that that fund has).

Most schools that I know of let students in for free... if they were trying to make loads of money, then they'd charge everybody.

Yeah, I mean the schools that do it on the cheap are not raising any revenue at all.  The schools that sell tickets and draw crowds are putting a lot more money into the program (full-time coaches, travel, etc).

Shoot, most D1 schools lose money on athletics, there's no way to believe d3 schools are doing any better.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Just taking a look at Richard Stockton, uh, I mean, the Top 25. Interesting to see Wooster drop 3 spots after losing at RV and now ranked De Pauw while Augustana drops just one spot after losing at Elmhurst.

I may have even kept Wooster #2 as Cabrini may be undefeated but their schedule lacks, right?

Cabrini's played all comers this year.  They can't help that their already bad conference is even worse this season.  They've gone out of their way to play teams.  The Wesley game got snowed out earlier and postponed.  That would/will tell us a lot, I think.

My issue with them has been that I did see them at the Hoopsville Tournament.  Their actual on-court play can rival anyone, but their talent doesn't.  That's tough to judge.  I was keeping IWU and Augustana ahead of them, but I can't really do that anymore.  There have been too many flaws exposed in the top teams - and Cabrini is the kind of team that will exploit those flaws.

Wooster has been tough all year.  They've had good wins, but they seem to be keeping games close that should be blowouts.  I'm very hesitant to trust a team like that.

We've reached a point where I think Point is #1 and no one else really deserves to be higher than 8th.  I'm not sure, even if the Posters Poll, if Ypsi would let me submit a ballot with six blank spots on it.

[pjunito]

I love how AMC has a video feed but no box score. I'm pretty sure at one point AMC was 5-14 (or close to it) from the line. And we got T'd up to start the game - Purchase went 1-2 from the line before the tip. Hopefully one of the guys who were there can shed some light. Assuming it was dunking during warmups?

Another possible reason could be if the starters weren't noted in the scorebook 10 minutes before the game, or if a player weren't properly listed.

Albertus received a Technical before the game started for a uniform violation.. No 20, James Jennings was wearing a under arm sweatshirt that is agaisnt the rules.. Purchase was awarded 2 FTs before tip off.

[pjunito]

The video feed is poor and the camera person needs training at the Albertus home games.. That is why I went to the game tonight..

I don't know about the best point guard, but Eain Davis for Albertus has to be the quickest pg in the nation. He was unstoppable and completely turned the game around in the first 10 minutes of the game and last 10 minutes of the second half.

Very good game, entertaining.. SUNY Purchase shot the ball very poorly from the outside, if they hit a few more shots, they win.

[Pat Coleman]

... and as he chose to continue harassing me via email, his ban has been extended permanently.

[mailsy]

... and as he chose to continue harassing me via email, his ban has been extended permanently.

Well, I certainly won't miss the illegible writings!  It's called editing and proofreading for a reason. TGHIJGSTO!!!

[GnacBballFan]

yes i dcid, this is a multi billionh dollar year indudtry, ... if you cant see it, you need glasses

It's a student doing an internship. You are ridiculous, and I can't believe you went to RS in 84, bc you spell like an 8th grader, and have the attitude of my 14 yr old sister. I'm sorry I've had enough of this guy

[wooscotsfan]

... and as he chose to continue harassing me via email, his ban has been extended permanently.

Thanks Pat -- a wise decision on your part and much appreciated!