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Greek Tragedy

Had Cabrini played this week and won, I was still pretty confident Point would remain #1, this after losing to the #7 team on the road in OT. With shocking losses by WPI and Wesley, the Top 5 will definitely have a different look.

I'm not sure if Whitewater has enough to jump Wash U. as the Bears have a 46 point lead on the Warhawks. They are only 12 behind the Titans.

With no horse in the race, I really don't have any problem with Wash U. being above IWU despite them losing to your boys. How long can you use that? Aside from that head to head loss, Wash U. has lost just once while IWU has lost THREE times. What if IWU had 4 losses or 5 losses? Can you still use that H2H card to validate putting IWU ahead of Wash U.? Where do you draw the line?
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 07, 2014, 09:04:01 AM
Had Cabrini played this week and won, I was still pretty confident Point would remain #1, this after losing to the #7 team on the road in OT. With shocking losses by WPI and Wesley, the Top 5 will definitely have a different look.

I'm not sure if Whitewater has enough to jump Wash U. as the Bears have a 46 point lead on the Warhawks. They are only 12 behind the Titans.

With no horse in the race, I really don't have any problem with Wash U. being above IWU despite them losing to your boys. How long can you use that? Aside from that head to head loss, Wash U. has lost just once while IWU has lost THREE times. What if IWU had 4 losses or 5 losses? Can you still use that H2H card to validate putting IWU ahead of Wash U.? Where do you draw the line?

I think you can given how utterly mediocre the UAA is this year.  I know the travel is a killer, but still, that schedule isn't proving much.
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Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 07, 2014, 01:07:51 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 07, 2014, 09:04:01 AM
Had Cabrini played this week and won, I was still pretty confident Point would remain #1, this after losing to the #7 team on the road in OT. With shocking losses by WPI and Wesley, the Top 5 will definitely have a different look.

I'm not sure if Whitewater has enough to jump Wash U. as the Bears have a 46 point lead on the Warhawks. They are only 12 behind the Titans.

With no horse in the race, I really don't have any problem with Wash U. being above IWU despite them losing to your boys. How long can you use that? Aside from that head to head loss, Wash U. has lost just once while IWU has lost THREE times. What if IWU had 4 losses or 5 losses? Can you still use that H2H card to validate putting IWU ahead of Wash U.? Where do you draw the line?

I think you can given how utterly mediocre the UAA is this year.  I know the travel is a killer, but still, that schedule isn't proving much.

Ironically, the UAA is ranked as one of the top conferences in both non-con wins and in Massey. I think it's the lack of truly abysmal teams... the bottom is just higher than in the past, and while there aren't a lot of top contenders (just Wash U) there are several in the 30-60 range.
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Quote from: John Gleich on February 07, 2014, 01:42:08 PM
Ironically, the UAA is ranked as one of the top conferences in both non-con wins and in Massey.

Yes, Massey has had the UAA and CCIW as the top 2 conferences most of the season - they're basically tied for 1st today.

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cb2014&sub=11620&c=1

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It's depth and breadth. I don't think teams are 'weaker' this year - more are stronger.
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Greek Tragedy

Wash U. hasn't lost since the IWU setback, while th Titans have dropped two games.
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The UAA went 62-25 in the non-conference, every team won at least 6 games.

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Plattsburgh State knocks off #15 Brockport State 92-89 and ends the Golden Eagles winning streak at 15. Outstanding game by both teams as Plattsburgh avenged an earlier loss to Brockport and closed the gap on the league leading Eagles. Brockport remains in first place in the SUNYAC with a 10-1 record. Plattsburgh is in second place with a 10-2 record.

Tomorrow Plattsburgh completes their two day road trip as they travel over to Geneseo to take on the third place Knights who have a 9-2 league record. The SUNYAC is one of only 2 leagues in D3 that has 3 teams with 3 losses or less. the other league is the NESCAC.  The 3 teams in the SUNYAC are Brockport 16-2, Plattsburgh 16-3, and Geneseo  16-3.

The NESCAC teams are Amherst 19-3, Bowdoin 18-2 and Williams 18-3.   

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Final:  Babson 71  #3 WPI 62

Having watched WPI on video this year, I am underwhelmed and don't consider them a top 10 team...and certainly not the #3 team in the nation.  With 2 losses this week, hopefully they will drop out of the top ten.

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Quote from: wooscotsfan on February 08, 2014, 03:49:47 PM
Final:  Babson 71  #3 WPI 62

Having watched WPI on video this year, I am underwhelmed and don't consider them a top 10 team...and certainly not the #3 team in the nation.  With 2 losses this week, hopefully they will drop out of the top ten.

I think I had them about 24th before this week.  So... yeah.
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Titan Q

Massey had WPI #27 before these two losses.

Looks like just they floated up the D3hoops.com poll behind a gaudy record against a weak schedule (Massey SOS of #273).

David Collinge

Wesley Wesleyan barely avoids their second loss of the week, escaping Christopher Newport at home 66-63. Maybe it's just as well that the Cabrini game evaporated.

All three ranked NCAC teams sweated out narrow road victories over "Bottom Six" (the conference's second division) teams:
Wooster 78, Denison 73 (Denison won at Wittenberg last week)
Wittenberg 70, Oberlin 63 (Oberlin beat DePauw last week)
Ohio Wesleyan 68, Kenyon 65 (Kenyon...has a really good English Department)

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Quote from: wooscotsfan on February 08, 2014, 03:49:47 PM
Final:  Babson 71  #3 WPI 62

Having watched WPI on video this year, I am underwhelmed and don't consider them a top 10 team...and certainly not the #3 team in the nation.  With 2 losses this week, hopefully they will drop out of the top ten.

No need to worry, definitely happening. Indeed, they floated. Hard to believe they got this far into the season before reality bit them.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 08, 2014, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on February 08, 2014, 03:49:47 PM
Final:  Babson 71  #3 WPI 62

Having watched WPI on video this year, I am underwhelmed and don't consider them a top 10 team...and certainly not the #3 team in the nation.  With 2 losses this week, hopefully they will drop out of the top ten.

No need to worry, definitely happening. Indeed, they floated. Hard to believe they got this far into the season before reality bit them.

Request permission to use this quote as an example of "fair, balanced, and objective" reporting for future journalism classes.
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Quote from: realist on February 08, 2014, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 08, 2014, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on February 08, 2014, 03:49:47 PM
Final:  Babson 71  #3 WPI 62

Having watched WPI on video this year, I am underwhelmed and don't consider them a top 10 team...and certainly not the #3 team in the nation.  With 2 losses this week, hopefully they will drop out of the top ten.

No need to worry, definitely happening. Indeed, they floated. Hard to believe they got this far into the season before reality bit them.

Request permission to use this quote as an example of "fair, balanced, and objective" reporting for future journalism classes.

A message board is about opinion, not reporting, so hopefully if you're teaching a journalism class you know the difference. :)
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