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[sac]

Well ... maybe it's not such a good idea anymore to buy UMW stock.

Well that's some kind of read. 

[magicman]

Well ... maybe it's not such a good idea anymore to buy UMW stock.

Thanks for posting the link Greg.

That puts an entirely different spin on Mary Washington's Coach Rod Wood and his "promotion" to "Director of Athletic Facilities" by Athletic Director Ken Tyler. 

It was also interesting to read that new coach Marcus Kahn was a former assistant under AD Tyler, who fired Wood and hired Kahn. In view of the facts that were put forth in the story,  it makes you wonder how accurate this statement from the Mary Washington press release announcing Kahn's hiring is:

"We had a very strong applicant pool and Marcus emerged as the consensus choice among our search committee and staff" said Tyler on Monday.

I'm wondering just how strong that applicant pool was.

Most of the comments to the article from the Fredericksburg newspaper were not in support of the dismissal of Coach Wood, especially after the season his team had.

Here's a link to a letter that the Mary Washington players wrote to the Mary Washington administration:   

http://cdn.blogs.fredericksburg.com/sports/files/2014/05/playerletter.pdf

I dumped all my UMW stock overnight.

[hopefan]

My faith in the 'purity' of D3 sports over all others takes a hit when I read stories like this.... Thankfully it doesn't seem to happen often... How difficult for Coach Wood....And to a lesser extent for Coach Kahn, who may simply be a pawn in this rather ugly situation.... And finally for the players, who have lost all trust in the administration....

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Things were certainly not done well, but it is Marcus Kahn.  He's not exactly the beneficiary of nepotism.

I do wonder how much of this Kahn knew before he took the job.

[Gregory Sager]

Well ... maybe it's not such a good idea anymore to buy UMW stock.

Thanks for posting the link Greg.

Thank D-Mac. I first saw the link when he posted it on Facebook, and I've merely passed it along to d3boards.com, since this current thread was already about Kahn and his move to UMW. The link is also now up on d3hoops.com in the "What We're Reading" section of the front page.

That puts an entirely different spin on Mary Washington's Coach Rod Wood and his "promotion" to "Director of Athletic Facilities" by Athletic Director Ken Tyler. 

It was also interesting to read that new coach Marcus Kahn was a former assistant under AD Tyler, who fired Wood and hired Kahn. In view of the facts that were put forth in the story,  it makes you wonder how accurate this statement from the Mary Washington press release announcing Kahn's hiring is:

"We had a very strong applicant pool and Marcus emerged as the consensus choice among our search committee and staff" said Tyler on Monday.

I'm wondering just how strong that applicant pool was.

Most of the comments to the article from the Fredericksburg newspaper were not in support of the dismissal of Coach Wood, especially after the season his team had.

Here's a link to a letter that the Mary Washington players wrote to the Mary Washington administration:   

http://cdn.blogs.fredericksburg.com/sports/files/2014/05/playerletter.pdf

I dumped all my UMW stock overnight.

Agreed on all points.

My faith in the 'purity' of D3 sports over all others takes a hit when I read stories like this.... Thankfully it doesn't seem to happen often...

True, but it never hurts to be a little skeptical about the way that administrators operate with regard to sports, even on the D3 level. Human nature is human nature, after all.

Things were certainly not done well, but it is Marcus Kahn.  He's not exactly the beneficiary of nepotism.

I do wonder how much of this Kahn knew before he took the job.

That's a very good question.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Well ... maybe it's not such a good idea anymore to buy UMW stock.

It was also interesting to read that new coach Marcus Kahn was a former assistant under AD Tyler, who fired Wood and hired Kahn. In view of the facts that were put forth in the story,  it makes you wonder how accurate this statement from the Mary Washington press release announcing Kahn's hiring is:

"We had a very strong applicant pool and Marcus emerged as the consensus choice among our search committee and staff" said Tyler on Monday.

I'm wondering just how strong that applicant pool was.

I know some of those who applied and who were finalists... it actually was a strong applicant pool. Interestingly enough, Kahn was the only D3 name I didn't know in the finalists pool... I only knew the person was a former assistant for Tyler... and I completely blanked on that person being Kahn.

It certainly seems like Kahn was targeted and was Tyler's choice for the job... but I do know a lot of quality applicants were in play... just not sure if the committee thought about going in a different direction.

[Pat Coleman]

It was also interesting to read that new coach Marcus Kahn was a former assistant under AD Tyler...

This was in our story ...

[gordonmann]

That's a really, really thorough article on UMW.  I'm always impressed and gratified when someone does that with a Division III program.

[Gregory Sager]

Greg,  I'm about ready to dump my LVC stock. 

Warren, you should follow my cue. Instead of thinking of NPU basketball as a tanked stock, I think of it as Confederate money: Worthless for a century and more after Appomattox, but nowadays a $1 CSA bill tends to go for anywhere from $30 to $50 on eBay.

Moral of the story: Value is dependent upon time, in both directions. If you've grown too jaded to subscribe to the quaint notion of "hope" anymore as a sports fan, you have to look for your solace wherever you can.

[Warren Thompson]

Greg, LVC basketball, men's and women's, isn't "tanked stock." It retains its value. I'm not so "jaded" that I don't have any hope. In fact, I have firm hopes for the following: the Cubs in a World Series before the Apocalypse; the return of sleeves on football jerseys; and sports teams with only two uniforms, home and away, and the occasional throwback kit.

[northb]

In fact, I have firm hopes for the following: the Cubs in a World Series before the Apocalypse;

AA groups define insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

[Warren Thompson]

In fact, I have firm hopes for the following: the Cubs in a World Series before the Apocalypse;

AA groups define insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Well, there you have it. Thanks for explaining the condition afflicting all Cub fans.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Maybe some Cubs fans... this Cubs fan just expects there to be 162 games of baseball... anything else would be considered gravy. It would be insane to expect them to win anything any year... especially with this management and ownership team!

[Gregory Sager]

Maybe some Cubs fans... this Cubs fan just expects there to be 162 games of baseball... anything else would be considered gravy. It would be insane to expect them to win anything any year... especially with this management and ownership team!

Exactly. I haven't expected even minimal competence out of the Cubs for several years now, and I won't expect it again for at least another couple of seasons.

[northb]

Maybe some Cubs fans... this Cubs fan just expects there to be 162 games of baseball... anything else would be considered gravy. It would be insane to expect them to win anything any year... especially with this management and ownership team!

Exactly. I haven't expected even minimal competence out of the Cubs for several years now, and I won't expect it again for at least another couple of seasons.

Which is what Cubs fans have been saying for decades:  not this year, or even next year, but in a few years we have a chance.  I wonder what the Red Sox' success has done to Cubs fans--hope that the curse can be reversed?  And then there's Bartman...