Top 25 talk

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Still ain't rough. Oberlin's Massey rating was 288 last year and that was a high water for them for a while. Oberlin's won 44 games from 2006-07 through last season.

Capital last beat Wittenberg in 2010-11.

I can't say that a second rate OAC team and a historically challenged team is rough by any means, especially for a team the caliber of Wittenberg. Those should have been gimmie "W"s.

Massey had Witt with the 24th toughest schedule through Nov 25th.  The numbers may not bear out that way by the end, but they've scheduled a little bit better than most.

(Hope is at #2 - but only because Cal Lutheran's only game so far was at Pepperdine.)

[David Collinge]

#5 Wooster falls at Hanover, 70-57.

[jaybird44]

#4 Wash-U struggling vs. Fontbonne, leading 38-36 at halftime.

[jaybird44]

WashU up 59-48, midway through 2nd half in California.

[sac]

WashU up 59-48, midway through 2nd half in California.

WashU is playing Fontbonne in California?

[jaybird44]

Yep.

Wash-U leading Fontbonne 66-54 with 5:00 left 2nd half.

[jaybird44]

4:00 left 2nd half:  Wash-U 76, Fontbonne 57.

[jaybird44]

Final:  Wash-U 82, Fontbonne 67

[Darryl Nester]

New HTF report coming soon (I hope).  I'm having a few computer issues (spontaneous freezes), but I am hoping they are cured now.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete) -- Men's games:

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	Record	Results
#1	611	Augustana	5-0	def. Knox, 86-61
#2	561	Amherst	3-0	IDLE
#3	558	UW-Whitewater	4-1	won at Alma, 84-71
#4	512	Washington U.	6-0	def. Carthage, 84-49; won at Fontbonne, 82-67
#5	489	Wooster	3-1	LOST at Hanover, 57-70
#6	461	St. Thomas	4-0	def. UW-River Falls, 70-69
#7	399	Dickinson	4-1	LOST to Gettysburg, 61-67; won at #18 Cabrini, 95-81
#8	386	Illinois Wesleyan	5-1	def. Milwaukee Engineering, 97-63; def. Austin, 85-57; def. Centenary (La.), 92-71
#9	379	Emory	4-0	def. LaGrange, 82-65; def. Maryville (Tenn.), 68-57
#10	339	Calvin	4-2	def. Manchester, 74-56; won at Aquinas, 73-64; LOST at Cornerstone, 60-65
#11	327	UW-Stevens Point	3-2	def. Edgewood, 69-60; LOST to North Central (Ill.), 56-63
#12	318	Virginia Wesleyan	4-0	won at Methodist, 89-71
#13	293	Randolph-Macon	3-2	LOST to Frostburg State, 67-76
#14	267	WPI	4-1	def. Worcester State, 70-52
#15	254	Richard Stockton	6-0	def. Rowan, 68-63
#16	252	MIT	4-0	def. Newbury, 77-57; def. Tufts, 71-64; def. Fitchburg State, 63-58
#17	248	Albertus Magnus	3-1	won at SUNY-Purchase, 86-82
#18	240	Cabrini	3-3	LOST at #24 Scranton, 65-85; LOST to #7 Dickinson, 81-95
#19	173	Texas-Dallas	3-2	LOST at Louisiana College, 64-73; LOST to Hardin-Simmons, 68-79
#20	137	Centre	5-0	won at Hanover, 69-59; won at Thomas More, 84-75
#21	126	Ohio Wesleyan	5-0	won at Capital, 85-67; def. T#51 Defiance, 77-63
#22	90	DePauw	4-0	def. Rose-Hulman, 77-58
#23	81	Chicago	5-1	def. Beloit, 82-63; def. Bethany, 78-52
#24	71	Scranton	4-1	def. #18 Cabrini, 85-65
#25	62	Springfield	4-1	LOST at Keene State, 72-100

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	Record	Results
#26	59	St. Olaf	4-0	won at Pacific Lutheran, 77-64; won at Linfield, 77-61
#27	49	Williams	5-2	def. Massachusetts College, 82-71; def. Skidmore, 86-77; won at Union, 83-77
#28	48	Bowdoin	4-0	won at University of New England, 67-48
T#29	45	St. Norbert	4-0	won at Lake Forest, 111-103
T#29	45	Babson	4-1	def. Becker, 59-58
#31	38	Christopher Newport	3-1	won at Haverford, 71-66
#32	28	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	5-1	def. Lewis and Clark, 55-34; def. Grove City, 71-55
#33	23	Marietta	5-0	won at Westminster (Pa.), 87-69
#34	22	Chapman	4-0	won at UC Santa Cruz, 68-37; def. T#49 Whitman, 72-67
T#35	20	Rhode Island College	5-1	def. Bridgewater State, 58-56; won at Salve Regina, 69-54
T#35	20	Rutgers-Newark	5-1	won at New Jersey City, 62-46; won at Stevens, 69-52
#37	14	Hampden-Sydney	3-0	IDLE
#38	9	Wheaton (Ill.)	3-2	def. Benedictine, 86-73
#39	8	Messiah	4-1	won at York (Pa.), 75-69; LOST to Lebanon Valley, 80-83
T#40	7	Catholic	4-2	def. Washington and Lee, 92-52; LOST at DeSales, 75-80
T#40	7	Ohio Northern	4-0	def. T#51 Defiance, 59-57
T#40	7	Whitworth	3-2	won at Redlands, 80-61; won at Caltech, 76-48
T#43	6	Oglethorpe	6-2	won at Covenant, 76-68; won at Maryville (Tenn.), 86-75; LOST to LaGrange, 70-76
T#43	6	Bates	5-0	def. Southern Maine, 56-47; won at University of New England, 101-85
T#43	6	Dubuque	6-0	won at Willamette, 83-60; won at Colorado College, 77-68
T#43	6	Lynchburg	5-0	won at Ferrum, 84-64; won at Goucher, 68-43
T#43	6	Stevenson	5-2	won at Penn State-Berks, 72-64; LOST at #48 Eastern Connecticut, 61-66; won at T#51 Rochester, 83-75
#48	4	Eastern Connecticut	7-1	def. Connecticut College, 88-60; def. T#43 Stevenson, 66-61; won at York (N.Y.), 70-60
T#49	2	Franklin and Marshall	6-0	won at Johns Hopkins, 60-51; won at Elizabethtown, 87-65
T#49	2	Whitman	3-2	LOST at #34 Chapman, 67-72; won at UC Santa Cruz, 72-49
T#51	1	Misericordia	6-1	won at Albright, 71-61; def. York (Pa.), 72-64
T#51	1	Widener	5-1	def. Ursinus, 78-63
T#51	1	Defiance	2-2	LOST at T#40 Ohio Northern, 57-59; LOST at #21 Ohio Wesleyan, 63-77
T#51	1	Rochester	3-2	LOST to York (N.Y.), 76-80; LOST to T#43 Stevenson, 75-83

Additional Team (that I may have slighted in last week's post)

Rank	Pts	Team	Record	Results
---	---	University of Dallas	6-0	won at Linfield, 61-51; won at Portland Bible College (OR), 72-60

[sac]

Daryl doesn't get enough +k for these.

[Greek Tragedy]

Daryl doesn't get enough +k for these.

Agreed.

[WUPHF]

WashU up 59-48, midway through 2nd half in California.

WashU is playing Fontbonne in California?

The craziest thing about Fontbonne playing Washington University in California is not that they are separated by a two-lane road, but that Fontbonne traveled all the way to California for just the one game.  At least Washington University played two games.

Incidentally, the NCAA mileage calculator states that the institutions are 8 miles apart when the gyms are probably a 8 minute walk away from each other.  Maybe 1/4 miles.

[madzillagd]

Actually Fontbonne goes west again in December.  They play @ CLU on 12/29.  Strange to take two separate trips to CA in one year a month apart.   

[John Gleich]

WashU up 59-48, midway through 2nd half in California.

WashU is playing Fontbonne in California?

The craziest thing about Fontbonne playing Washington University in California is not that they are separated by a two-lane road, but that Fontbonne traveled all the way to California for just the one game.  At least Washington University played two games.

Incidentally, the NCAA mileage calculator states that the institutions are 8 miles apart when the gyms are probably a 8 minute walk away from each other.  Maybe 1/4 miles.

That reminds me of UWSP in 2003-04...

We played out in Las Vegas against UW Oshkosh (the first of four times we would play, and beat, our closest conference foe) in front of 250 people right after Christmas, then we played Lawrence (the closest school to UWSP) in the Elite 8 in front of 200 in the Best Game Nobody Saw out in Tacoma at UPS.

Then, in the Final Four, Williams and Amherst played for a bid to get in the finals.


Sure, this isn't traveling half way across the country to play a team that's right across the street... but still interesting none the less!