Top 25 talk

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Final from Pella, IA...

Central 89
#1-Augustana 78

Oh good gosh.  We have no #1 team.  It just doesn't exist.  Everyone's going to end up voting for Amherst and the weakest schedule in d3 next week.

I mean, I put an idea out there on twitter... https://twitter.com/ZacSnyder/status/540341481203306496

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

#1, 5, 7, 10, and 18 all lost tonight.  #17 Chicago is tied with Wheaton in the second half.

[WUPHF]

Wheaton over Chicago, 62-51.

[John Gleich]

#4 OWU built a 26-point lead at Wooster, then held on as the #10 Scots closed to within 2. Final score OWU 92, Wooster 89.

Anybody know the last time Wooster lost in back to back games?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

#4 OWU built a 26-point lead at Wooster, then held on as the #10 Scots closed to within 2. Final score OWU 92, Wooster 89.

Anybody know the last time Wooster lost in back to back games?

DePauw and OWU, January 2014.  The question will be, after Friday, is when they lost three in a row, that goes back beyond the d3hoops.com archives.

[smedindy]

Maybe we rank the bottom 25?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Maybe we rank the bottom 25?

I'm more thinking like, say, a 50 team ranking in which we simply don't order the teams we name?  Announce, "these are fifty good teams" and leave it at that.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

As has been noted, there's a fair amount of red in the top 25 (more, in fact, than in the ORV group).  If you're looking for a poll with less volatility, might I suggest the women's top 25 (with only one loss in the top 25)?  When I post these reports on the women's side, I sometimes wonder if I am just talking to myself.

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	616	Augustana	5-1	LOST at Central, 78-89; 12/06 vs. Fontbonne
#2	567	Amherst	4-0	def. Westfield State, 78-67; 12/06 vs. Emerson
#3	561	UW-Whitewater	5-1	won at UW-Oshkosh, 78-59; 12/06 vs. UW-Platteville
#4	542	Washington U.	6-0	12/05 vs. La Verne; 12/06 vs. Trinity (Texas)
#5	502	St. Thomas	4-1	LOST at Gustavus Adolphus, 65-68; 12/06 at St. John's
#6	458	Emory	4-1	LOST at Piedmont, 85-87; 12/05 vs. Trinity (Texas); 12/06 vs. La Verne
#7	427	Virginia Wesleyan	4-1	LOST to #26 Randolph-Macon, 47-55; 12/06 at Guilford; 12/07 at Ferrum
#8	417	Richard Stockton	7-0	won at TCNJ, 78-56; 12/06 vs. William Paterson
#9	411	Illinois Wesleyan	5-1	12/06 vs. #17 Chicago
#10	377	Wooster	3-2	LOST to #14 Ohio Wesleyan, 89-92; 12/06 at #18 DePauw
#11	349	MIT	4-1	LOST to Mass-Boston, 52-59; 12/04 at Salem State; 12/06 at Framingham State
#12	304	Dickinson	5-1	def. McDaniel, 53-38; 12/06 at Swarthmore
#13	300	WPI	5-1	won at Tufts, 68-65; 12/06 at Fitchburg State
#14	271	Ohio Wesleyan	6-0	won at #10 Wooster, 92-89; 12/06 vs. Denison
#15	236	Centre	6-0	def. Asbury, 74-61
#16	221	Albertus Magnus	4-1	def. Anna Maria, 96-80; 12/04 vs. Johnson and Wales; 12/06 at Suffolk
#17	179	Chicago	5-2	LOST to T#43 Wheaton (Ill.), 51-62; 12/06 at #9 Illinois Wesleyan
#18	174	DePauw	4-1	LOST at Denison, 65-67; 12/06 vs. #10 Wooster
#19	143	Calvin	4-2	12/05 at T#43 Wheaton (Ill.); 12/06 at Carthage
#20	106	St. Olaf	5-0	won at Macalester, 68-58; 12/06 at Bethel
#21	105	Scranton	4-1	12/06 vs. Juniata
#22	91	North Central (Ill.)	4-0	12/04 at Pomona-Pitzer; 12/06 at Redlands
#23	87	UW-Stevens Point	4-2	def. UW-Eau Claire, 64-50; 12/06 vs. UW-Superior
#24	77	St. Norbert	5-0	won at Ripon, 80-68; 12/06 vs. Grinnell
#25	74	Eastern Connecticut	7-1	12/06 at #34 Rhode Island College

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	64	Randolph-Macon	4-2	won at #7 Virginia Wesleyan, 55-47; 12/06 vs. T#32 Lynchburg
#27	58	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	5-1	IDLE
#28	47	Babson	5-1	def. #29 Bowdoin, 68-48; 12/06 vs. Tufts; 12/07 vs. Brandeis or Salem State
#29	42	Bowdoin	4-1	LOST at #28 Babson, 48-68; 12/04 at T#43 Bates; 12/06 vs. Colby
#30	39	Marietta	6-0	won at Muskingum, 84-74; 12/06 at Wilmington
#31	30	Williams	6-2	won at RPI, 86-69; 12/06 at T#38 Springfield
T#32	29	Lynchburg	6-0	def. Randolph, 76-57; 12/06 at #26 Randolph-Macon
T#32	29	Chapman	4-0	12/05 vs. Bristol
#34	25	Rhode Island College	6-1	won at Elms, 67-52; 12/06 vs. #25 Eastern Connecticut
#35	24	Dubuque	6-0	12/04 vs. Clarke
#36	23	Misericordia	7-1	def. FDU-Florham, 81-72; 12/06 at DeSales
#37	19	Cabrini	4-3	def. Neumann, 81-60; 12/06 at Centenary (N.J.)
T#38	15	Springfield	4-2	LOST at Trinity (Conn.), 76-81; 12/06 vs. #31 Williams
T#38	15	Christopher Newport	4-1	def. Southern Virginia, 89-79; 12/06 at Frostburg State
#40	12	Marymount	6-0	won at Wesley, 62-57; 12/06 vs. St. Mary's (Md.)
T#41	10	Ohio Northern	5-0	def. Otterbein, 78-67; 12/06 at Mount Union
T#41	10	Franklin and Marshall	7-0	won at Ursinus, 64-49; 12/06 vs. Haverford
T#43	8	Bates	6-0	def. Colby, 76-70; 12/04 vs. #29 Bowdoin
T#43	8	Wheaton (Ill.)	4-2	won at #17 Chicago, 62-51; 12/05 vs. #19 Calvin; 12/06 at Hope
#45	6	Widener	6-1	def. Albright, 80-77; 12/06 vs. Messiah
T#46	3	Rutgers-Newark	5-1	won at Montclair State, 62-60; 12/06 vs. TCNJ
T#46	3	Texas-Dallas	3-2	12/04 at University of the Ozarks; 12/06 at Texas-Tyler
#48	4	Gettysburg	4-2	LOST to Johns Hopkins, 52-68; 12/06 at Washington College
#49	3	Whitworth	3-2	IDLE
#50	2	Stevenson	5-2	12/06 at Arcadia
#51	1	Keene State	5-0	12/04 at Colby-Sawyer; 12/06 vs. Mass-Boston

[fantastic50]

#4 OWU built a 26-point lead at Wooster, then held on as the #10 Scots closed to within 2. Final score OWU 92, Wooster 89.

Anybody know the last time Wooster lost in back to back games?

DePauw and OWU, January 2014.  The question will be, after Friday, is when they lost three in a row, that goes back beyond the d3hoops.com archives.

Wooster has an online all-time archive of season/game results... http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/mbkb/results/index
- In November 2008, Wooster lost three of four (L vs W&J, W vs Mesiah, L at Carnegie Mellon, L neu UW-Platteville).
- In 1989-90, the Scots lost four of six at two different points in the season (including their most recent to Oberlin)
- In Steve Moore's first season, 1987-88, Wooster closed the season with a 5-7 stretch.

However, the last time Wooster lost more than two consecutive games was in 1987, in Lu Wims final season coaching the Scots, when they dropped five in a row late in an 8-18 campaign.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

And people thought I was kidding when I said I wanted to start my poll at #10... I have wanted to start the poll at #10 for weeks. This gives me even better reason to start at #10.

By the way... Amherst isn't going to be my new #1.

[KnightSlappy]

I think, were I a voter, that I'd be giving Ohio Wesleyan a serious look for the top position. They've started 6-0 against a schedule that has contained two road games against Top-20 teams (and both were Top-10 at the time of the contest).

Probably either them or Washington U., would be my pick.

[WUPHF]

Maybe we rank the bottom 25?

Imagine the excitement when the worst team in Division III beats the second worst!

[smedindy]

Maybe we rank the bottom 25?

Imagine the excitement when the worst team in Division III beats the second worst!

I'm giddy about that anyway!

[Darryl Nester]

Perhaps it would be helpful if someone were to, say, make a list of all undefeated teams, and all 1-loss team, and all 2-loss teams, etc., and then state the case as to why Richard Stockton should be number 1.  (Which, given current circumstances, might not be hard to do.)

If only we had not banned the one person who might be able to help us through this difficult time.

[smedindy]

So I take it Amherst will be #1 unless Emerson pulls the upset. I think they may need Lake and Palmer...

But wouldn't that be The Nice!


Oh, TGHIJGSTO!!! (Said in a Butters voice...)