Top 25 talk

[KnightSlappy]

Does Elmhurst move up since they own lost by 2 at Auggie?

Hasn't that already been dubbed the CCIW rule? You lose a close game to a CCIW school and you automatically get ranked, or even move up in the rankings? 

I'd say that happens with WIAC and NESCAC teams too, when the situation warrants.

A 2-pt loss on the road against a Top 5 team is, at worst, a neutral result if the goal is to figure out who the best teams are.

[gordonmann]

Meanwhile it took me about 10 minutes to do my women's Top 25 ballot, including a few minutes to actually fill out the ballot online.

[HOPEful]

I wouldn't really penalize Amherst for their result either

I would agree if they hadn't already lost to Brandeis and Babson and gone to OT against Goucher. I have to believe that this team is still ranked above teams like Elmhurst, Chapman, and St. Olaf because of their program's history, not because of this year's resume.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I wouldn't really penalize Amherst for their result either

I would agree if they hadn't already lost to Brandeis and Babson and gone to OT against Goucher. I have to believe that this team is still ranked above teams like Elmhurst, Chapman, and St. Olaf because of their program's history, not because of this year's resume.

Agreed.  Elmhurst, Chapman, and St. Olaf are all near the bottom of my PP ballot; Amherst is not on it.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Meanwhile it took me about 10 minutes to do my women's Top 25 ballot, including a few minutes to actually fill out the ballot online.

Gordon - I would love to switch with you, but I am worried then things would get topsy turvy and the challenge would follow me to the women's side LOL

[Pat Coleman]

I wouldn't really penalize Amherst for their result either

I would agree if they hadn't already lost to Brandeis and Babson and gone to OT against Goucher. I have to believe that this team is still ranked above teams like Elmhurst, Chapman, and St. Olaf because of their program's history, not because of this year's resume.

I think Amherst has already been punished for those, and they did at least beat Eastern Connecticut this week, which will help them try to tread water.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I wouldn't really penalize Amherst for their result either

I would agree if they hadn't already lost to Brandeis and Babson and gone to OT against Goucher. I have to believe that this team is still ranked above teams like Elmhurst, Chapman, and St. Olaf because of their program's history, not because of this year's resume.

I think Amherst has already been punished for those, and they did at least beat Eastern Connecticut this week, which will help them try to tread water.

Agreed, but E. Conn has also fallen off my ballot - both they and Amherst are probably in my 26-35 range.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Richard Stockton just lost at home to Ramapo by 2.  Cane missed a three at the buzzer.

[TheOsprey]

Stockton falls to Ramapo @ home 65-63. . Ramapo banks in a flat footed 3 with 1.5 secs. Left and the Ospreys three rims out at the buzzer.

The Ospreys got to get more creative offensively, or more losses are coming in conference play.

[HOPEful]

My issue is... more with Amherst still making the cut. Drew (6-5), Emerson (7-4), and Babson (10-1) are the only teams they've played so far with winning records. A week after losses to Brandeis (5-5) by 20 and Babson (10-1) by 19, Amherst went to OT against Goucher (1-9). I don't think where expectations began preseason should have any impact on voting in January. Even with a win against E. Connecticut, I don't see Amherst as a top 25 team at this point in the season.

I think Amherst has already been punished for those, and they did at least beat Eastern Connecticut this week, which will help them try to tread water.

The win against Eastern Connecticut was a very good win for Lord Jeffs and should help to build up their credit. However, prior to that win, their most notable victory was against Westfield St. (8-5). Ideally, I'd like to see polls crediting teams based upon their resume, regardless of expectations at the beginning of the season or historically. Falling from a #2 preseason ranking shouldn't be a punishment, but a reassessment of the quality of this season's team. In contrast, St. Olaf beats UW Stevens Point and Gustavus Aldolphus and loses only at Bethel (8-3) and can't crack the top 25. It's not impossible to imagine that if their exact resumes were reversed, Amherst would be receiving multiple number 1 votes this week while for St. Olaf, one win against Eastern Connecticut would not be enough to turn any heads.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It is bound to start the conversation and bring on plenty of arguments (right?), so here is my Top 25 ballot this week: http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2014-15/week6

Enjoy?

[y_jack_lok]

It is bound to start the conversation and bring on plenty of arguments (right?), so here is my Top 25 ballot this week: http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2014-15/week6

Enjoy?

If that's your ballot, it matches perfectly the actual poll when all the voters votes are compiled -- or maybe it' just the wrong link.

[HOPEful]

It is bound to start the conversation and bring on plenty of arguments (right?), so here is my Top 25 ballot this week:
Enjoy?

This weeks rankings have improved so much, I won't even mention the minor disagreements I may have with them...

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Someone on the UAA board said this was Case Western's first ever poll vote.  Is Sager around to verify that?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Sorry... I grabbed the wrong link: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/01/12/daves-top-25-ballot-week-6-2/

And Case Western did receive a vote in the overall poll.