Top 25 talk

[Greek Tragedy]

Point loses 59-44 at Whitewater with starting guard Stephen Pelkofer in a boot to start the game. Not a good sign going forward.

[Mr. Ypsi]

There will be a new #1 next week: final from Rock Island, IWU 89, Augie 84.

[njf1003]

#14 F&M falls 81-48 to #7 Dickinson. Dickinson couldn't miss from 3 for a good part of the 2nd half which doomed the Diplomats.

[Pat Coleman]

#14 F&M falls 81-48 to #7 Dickinson. Dickinson couldn't miss from 3 for a good part of the 2nd half which doomed the Diplomats.

33 points is a lot of 3-pointers to lose by, though. Man ...

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)
Should have had my coffee first -- I nearly posted the women's report here. Might have made for some interesting conversation. (I wonder if that would have been enough to get smited.)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	624	Augustana	15-2	LOST to T#28 Illinois Wesleyan, 84-89; 01/24 at Millikin
#2	589	UW-Whitewater	15-2	def. #15 UW-Stevens Point, 59-44; 01/24 at UW-Superior
#3	573	St. Thomas	14-1	won at Bethel, 80-69; won at #19 St. Olaf, 86-77; 01/24 vs. St. John's
#4	547	Washington U.	13-1	01/23 at New York University; 01/25 at Brandeis
#5	498	Marietta	16-0	def. Mount Union, 86-82; 01/24 vs. Heidelberg
#6	455	Virginia Wesleyan	13-3	LOST at #11 Randolph-Macon, 66-69; 01/24 vs. Lynchburg
#7	428	Dickinson	14-2	def. #14 Franklin and Marshall, 81-48; 01/24 vs. Swarthmore
#8	410	WPI	14-2	won at Clark, 63-42; 01/24 vs. Wheaton (Mass.)
#9	385	Albertus Magnus	14-1	def. Rivier, 87-53; 01/24 at St. Joseph's (Maine)
#10	381	Wooster	14-2	won at Allegheny, 104-73; 01/24 vs. DePauw
#11	342	Randolph-Macon	14-2	def. #6 Virginia Wesleyan, 69-66; 01/24 vs. Emory and Henry
#12	319	Emory	11-3	01/23 vs. #25 Case Western Reserve; 01/25 vs. Carnegie Mellon
#13	318	Richard Stockton	15-2	won at Rowan, 83-59; 01/24 vs. Rutgers-Newark
#14	264	Franklin and Marshall	14-2	LOST at #7 Dickinson, 48-81; 01/24 at Haverford
#15	235	UW-Stevens Point	13-4	LOST at #2 UW-Whitewater, 44-59; 01/24 vs. UW-Oshkosh
#16	227	St. Norbert	14-1	won at Carroll, 67-61; 01/24 at Monmouth
#17	224	North Central (Ill.)	14-3	won at Carthage, 87-82; 01/24 at North Park
#18	213	Chapman	15-0	won at La Verne, 72-52; 01/24 vs. Redlands
#19	201	St. Olaf	13-2	won at Concordia-Moorhead, 72-48; LOST to #3 St. Thomas, 77-86; 01/24 vs. Bethel
#20	186	Babson	14-2	won at #30 MIT, 61-48; 01/24 at Coast Guard
#21	177	Chicago	11-3	01/23 at Brandeis; 01/25 at New York University
#22	105	Elmhurst	14-3	won at North Park, 75-50; 01/24 vs. T#28 Illinois Wesleyan
#23	99	Ohio Wesleyan	13-3	won at Oberlin, 86-61; 01/24 at Denison
#24	64	Johns Hopkins	14-2	won at Washington College, 88-73; 01/24 at Muhlenberg
#25	46	Case Western Reserve	12-2	01/23 at #12 Emory; 01/25 at Rochester

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	38	Eastern Connecticut	14-3	won at Keene State, 95-71; 01/24 vs. Rhode Island College
#27	30	Whitworth	13-2	01/23 vs. Puget Sound; 01/24 vs. Pacific Lutheran
T#28	26	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	12-3	won at Cal Lutheran, 73-65; 01/24 at Pomona-Pitzer
T#28	26	Illinois Wesleyan	13-4	won at #1 Augustana, 89-84; 01/24 at #22 Elmhurst
#30	22	MIT	11-4	LOST to #20 Babson, 48-61; 01/24 at Emerson
#31	18	William Paterson	15-2	def. John Jay, 80-66; def. Ramapo, 86-81; 01/24 at Rutgers-Camden
#32	15	Husson	12-2	01/23 vs. Johnson State; 01/24 vs. Lyndon State
#33	14	Hardin-Simmons	13-2	01/22 vs. University of the Ozarks; 01/24 vs. Texas-Tyler
#34	9	Amherst	12-4	def. T#39 Williams, 86-76; 01/24 vs. T#37 Trinity (Conn.)
#35	7	Centre	11-3	01/23 at Rhodes; 01/25 at Hendrix
#36	4	Christopher Newport	12-4	def. Mary Washington, 53-49; 01/24 vs. Frostburg State
T#37	2	St. John Fisher	13-2	def. Alfred, 77-46; 01/23 at Houghton; 01/24 vs. Ithaca
T#37	2	Trinity (Conn.)	13-5	LOST at Fisher, 62-71; 01/24 at #34 Amherst
T#39	1	Catholic	14-3	def. Juniata, 74-59; 01/24 at Merchant Marine
T#39	1	Williams	11-6	LOST at #34 Amherst, 76-86; 01/24 at Hamilton

[Greek Tragedy]

There will be a new #1 next week: final from Rock Island, IWU 89, Augie 84.

Yeah, but they lost to a fellow CCIW team by single-digits.  That counts for something,  right?

[WUPHF]

There will be a new #1 next week: final from Rock Island, IWU 89, Augie 84.

Yeah, but they lost to a fellow CCIW team by single-digits.  That counts for something,  right?

It does, but that would be partially negated by the fact that it was at home. 

By the way, as I said earlier in the week, Illinois Wesleyan is underrated.

[Greek Tragedy]

There will be a new #1 next week: final from Rock Island, IWU 89, Augie 84.

Yeah, but they lost to a fellow CCIW team by single-digits.  That counts for something,  right?

It does, but that would be partially negated by the fact that it was at home. 

By the way, as I said earlier in the week, Illinois Wesleyan is underrated.

That was a tongue in cheek comment.  I failed to add 

[KnightSlappy]

There will be a new #1 next week: final from Rock Island, IWU 89, Augie 84.

Yeah, but they lost to a fellow CCIW team by single-digits.  That counts for something,  right?

It does, but that would be partially negated by the fact that it was at home. 

By the way, as I said earlier in the week, Illinois Wesleyan is underrated.

I'm trying desperately to keep up.

[WUPHF]

By the way, as I said earlier in the week, Illinois Wesleyan is underrated.

I'm trying desperately to keep up.

It is much easier when you ignore both your mind and the computer and let superstition (and possibly fear) take over.

"Guys like us, we're not some brainiacs on the nerd patrol. We're not members of the factinista. We go straight from the gut."
-Stephen Colbert

[sac]

Denison 73 #23 Ohio Wesleyan 70

#5 Marietta 80  Heidelberg 74  --H'berg hung with them the whole way.

[Darryl Nester]

 How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	624	Augustana	16-2	LOST to T#28 Illinois Wesleyan, 84-89; won at Millikin, 71-68
#2	589	UW-Whitewater	16-2	def. #15 UW-Stevens Point, 59-44; won at UW-Superior, 83-59
#3	573	St. Thomas	15-1	won at Bethel, 80-69; won at #19 St. Olaf, 86-77; def. St. John's, 79-72
#4	547	Washington U.	14-2	LOST at New York University, 67-91; won at Brandeis, 79-68
#5	498	Marietta	17-0	def. Mount Union, 86-82; def. Heidelberg, 80-74
#6	455	Virginia Wesleyan	14-3	LOST at #11 Randolph-Macon, 66-69; def. Lynchburg, 78-55
#7	428	Dickinson	15-2	def. #14 Franklin and Marshall, 81-48; def. Swarthmore, 72-45
#8	410	WPI	15-2	won at Clark, 63-42; def. Wheaton (Mass.), 92-68
#9	385	Albertus Magnus	15-1	def. Rivier, 87-53; won at St. Joseph's (Maine), 80-66
#10	381	Wooster	15-2	won at Allegheny, 104-73; def. DePauw, 63-62
#11	342	Randolph-Macon	15-2	def. #6 Virginia Wesleyan, 69-66; def. Emory and Henry, 69-53
#12	319	Emory	13-3	def. #25 Case Western Reserve, 78-65; def. Carnegie Mellon, 79-53
#13	318	Richard Stockton	16-2	won at Rowan, 83-59; def. Rutgers-Newark, 65-57
#14	264	Franklin and Marshall	15-2	LOST at #7 Dickinson, 48-81; won at Haverford, 82-66
#15	235	UW-Stevens Point	14-4	LOST at #2 UW-Whitewater, 44-59; def. UW-Oshkosh, 69-66
#16	227	St. Norbert	15-1	won at Carroll, 67-61; won at Monmouth, 76-62
#17	224	North Central (Ill.)	14-4	won at Carthage, 87-82; LOST at North Park, 68-92
#18	213	Chapman	16-0	won at La Verne, 72-52; def. Redlands, 83-63
#19	201	St. Olaf	13-3	won at Concordia-Moorhead, 72-48; LOST to #3 St. Thomas, 77-86; LOST to Bethel, 89-95
#20	186	Babson	15-2	won at #30 MIT, 61-48; won at Coast Guard, 81-73
#21	177	Chicago	11-5	LOST at Brandeis, 58-59; LOST at New York University, 68-85
#22	105	Elmhurst	15-3	won at North Park, 75-50; def. T#28 Illinois Wesleyan, 76-73
#23	99	Ohio Wesleyan	13-4	won at Oberlin, 86-61; LOST at Denison, 70-73
#24	64	Johns Hopkins	15-2	won at Washington College, 88-73; won at Muhlenberg, 80-75
#25	46	Case Western Reserve	13-3	LOST at #12 Emory, 65-78; won at Rochester, 65-37

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	38	Eastern Connecticut	15-3	won at Keene State, 95-71; def. Rhode Island College, 83-59
#27	30	Whitworth	15-2	def. Puget Sound, 78-72; def. Pacific Lutheran, 78-59
T#28	26	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	12-4	won at Cal Lutheran, 73-65; LOST at Pomona-Pitzer, 57-58
T#28	26	Illinois Wesleyan	13-5	won at #1 Augustana, 89-84; LOST at #22 Elmhurst, 73-76
#30	22	MIT	12-4	LOST to #20 Babson, 48-61; won at Emerson, 64-55
#31	18	William Paterson	16-2	def. John Jay, 80-66; def. Ramapo, 86-81; won at Rutgers-Camden, 92-73
#32	15	Husson	13-3	def. Johnson State, 90-67; LOST to Lyndon State, 85-101
#33	14	Hardin-Simmons	15-2	def. University of the Ozarks, 102-81; def. Texas-Tyler, 91-53
#34	9	Amherst	12-5	def. T#39 Williams, 86-76; LOST to T#37 Trinity (Conn.), 54-70
#35	7	Centre	12-4	LOST at Rhodes, 67-74; won at Hendrix, 65-62
#36	4	Christopher Newport	13-4	def. Mary Washington, 53-49; def. Frostburg State, 92-58
T#37	2	St. John Fisher	15-2	def. Alfred, 77-46; won at Houghton, 89-77; def. Ithaca, 96-70
T#37	2	Trinity (Conn.)	14-5	LOST at Fisher, 62-71; won at #34 Amherst, 70-54
T#39	1	Catholic	15-3	def. Juniata, 74-59; won at Merchant Marine, 68-67
T#39	1	Williams	11-7	LOST at #34 Amherst, 76-86; LOST at Hamilton, 64-67

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I can't believe someone is still voting for Amherst.

[gordonmann]

I had the same reaction. It's a small number of votes out of the total and I don't generally complain about votes since I know how tough it is to do the ballots. But even if the voter(s) is keeping a slot for the best NESCAC team, I don't see how you conclude its Amherst at this point.

It's a really stunning drop off for the conference this year. Not only do the NESCAC not have anyone ranked, they probably don't have anyone at this point deserving of votes.

You get credit for calling this one early in the season, Hoops Fan.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

When Dave Hixon told me at the beginning of the month he didn't think the winner of the conference would have less than three or four losses, it stuck with me. I couldn't believe he thought the NESCAC top would be that vulnerable. He was very accurate. Not sure the NESCAC gets more than a single at-large bid at this point.

In the meantime, I took another stab at my Top 25 - actually blowing it up for the most part. Here it is in case you want some "light" reading: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2597