Top 25 talk

David Collinge · March 05, 2015, 06:41:35 AM

I guess I didn't notice that Amherst got zero votes. I would not be surprised if that was the first time that has happened in D3hoops.com poll history.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · March 05, 2015, 09:29:34 AM

Quote from: David Collinge on March 05, 2015, 06:41:35 AM
I guess I didn't notice that Amherst got zero votes. I would not be surprised if that was the first time that has happened in D3hoops.com poll history.

They didn't get any last week either.

David Collinge · March 05, 2015, 05:41:48 PM

Okay; whenever it was that Amherst dropped to zero this season may have been the first time ever. Better?

Pat Coleman · March 05, 2015, 05:50:07 PM

Back in January when the last NESCAC team dropped out of the Top 25, I checked to see when the last time that happened. Turned out it was a streak of 191 consecutive polls, dating to Feb. 25, 2002.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/01/no-nescac-teams-ranked

Ralph Turner · March 15, 2015, 01:35:49 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 05, 2015, 12:11:06 AM
Quote from: jaybird44 on March 04, 2015, 11:51:02 PM
In doing research for tomorrow night's Wash-U/DePauw tilt, I discovered a couple of things that underscored the quandry that Dave McHugh and the other d3hoops.com pollsters faced every week...and the unbelievable parity that we saw this season.

I counted 50 different teams that were ranked at some point in the poll...from the preseason edition to this week's poll. Of those 50 teams, 16 didn't receive a single vote in this week's final regular-season ranking: NYU, North Central, Chicago, Case-Western, Amherst, Husson, Centre, MIT, DePauw, Cabrini, Texas-Dallas, Springfield, Williams, Wheaton, Christopher Newport, and Richard Stockton.

And, of those 16, the ones who were able to make it into the NCAA tourney are Amherst, DePauw, and Springfield.

An unprecedented ebb and flow this season in men's D3 basketball, no?
Quote from: jaybird44 on March 04, 2015, 11:54:38 PM
Add Richard Stockton to the short list of teams who didn't receive votes in this week's poll, yet made it to the NCAA Tourney.

Richard Stockton (listed just as Stockton) is #17. DePauw got 19 points. A few of the others surprised me that they got ZERO points. Others (I'm looking especially at you, Wheaton ) just had very disappointing seasons.

Looking at the Northeast, the dynamics of the Pool system and the Strength of Schedule calculations play differently in that region. I can imagine that 25 voters have judged Amherst and Springfield as not one of the best 25 teams in the country, but easily tap them for one of the 19 Pool C bids, the best of the rest.

Gregory Sager · March 15, 2015, 02:41:18 PM

It'll be a top ten Final Four:

#4 Babson vs. #6 Augustana
#8 UW-Stevens Point vs. #9 Virginia Wesleyan

Congrats to the pollsters for reading the tea leaves well enough to place the eventual Final Four that high in their end-of-regular-season poll. Considering that this has been a year in which everything seemed to be up for grabs due to there being a real dearth of standout teams, that's an accomplishment.

D3HoopJunkie · March 25, 2015, 09:09:00 AM

Dave,

I'm sure you are absolutely exhausted when it comes to the Top 25, especially after this season!! I was just curious if you were going to do a Final Top 25 analysis on the Daily Dose blog. I enjoyed your take on the Top 25 all season long and I was curious how your final rankings compared to how the overall final rankings finished up and what your take on each team was after such an outstanding well balanced season.

Peer pressure here Dave!!!!

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · March 26, 2015, 12:09:11 PM

Exhausted... good word. Sick as well - massive sinus infection started to take hold in Salem and grounded me this week. I am playing catch-up.

And I will give you a blog... just hadn't gotten around to it. Needed to take care of some work (that actually pays, or tries to pay, the bills) first. Hopefully by tomorrow I will post something - unless I can get it turned today.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 22, 2015, 11:21:19 AM

We've got a Top 25:

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/preseason

Pat Coleman · October 22, 2015, 11:33:04 AM

And here's a little more about it that poll watchers will probably enjoy:
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/10/mens-preseason-no-1

sac · October 22, 2015, 12:00:16 PM

Its a little weird that so many top 10 teams were left completely off of at least one ballot, and so few teams appeared on all 25.

Pat Coleman · October 22, 2015, 02:42:39 PM

Quote from: sac on October 22, 2015, 12:00:16 PM
Its a little weird that so many top 10 teams were left completely off of at least one ballot, and so few teams appeared on all 25.

And honestly, I don't know for sure if that's normal or not because we haven't published that full grid before. But I think it is unusual, which is why I put it out there.

gordonmann · October 22, 2015, 03:05:08 PM

I don't vote in the men's poll so that Trinity vote at No. 2 isn't me.

Gregory Sager · October 22, 2015, 03:19:03 PM

Thanks for posting the ballot breakdown grid, Pat. It's very helpful.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 22, 2015, 03:58:10 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2015, 02:42:39 PM
Quote from: sac on October 22, 2015, 12:00:16 PM
Its a little weird that so many top 10 teams were left completely off of at least one ballot, and so few teams appeared on all 25.

And honestly, I don't know for sure if that's normal or not because we haven't published that full grid before. But I think it is unusual, which is why I put it out there.

I was blown away seeing just how many of last year's Top 10 lost a significant amount. With 25 voters it doesn't seem to far-fetched at least one of them wouldn't give teams the benefit of the doubt.