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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 09, 2015, 08:54:27 PM

Really seems like a great game going on at Albertus Magnus, hosting Brooklyn.  AMC got out to a 15 point lead in the early second half, but Brooklyn is systematically working its way back.  The video isn't coming through for me.  A real shame.

Brooklyn goes down.  They were within four at two minutes to go.  The teams seemed very even throughout, but if you look at the box score, Brooklyn was radically out-rebounded.  That'll be a problem going forward if they can't get it fixed.

Albertus is better than we expect with what they lost last year.  This'll look good on their resume.
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How They Fared (So Far)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1625Augustana4-012/12 at #20 Washington U.
#2584Whitworth7-012/12 vs. Colorado College (n)
#3564Amherst6-0won at Brandeis, 72-65; 12/10 at #19 Babson; 12/12 at Lasell
#4541Ohio Wesleyan8-012/12 at Hiram
#5498Hope5-112/12 vs. UW-Platteville
#6463St. Thomas5-1def. Macalester, 78-53; 12/12 at UW-River Falls
#7435Elmhurst7-1def. Olivet, 106-67; 12/12 at Dubuque
#8425Marietta6-112/12 at Heidelberg
#9402UW-Stevens Point3-3LOST at North Central (Ill.), 49-63; 12/12 vs. Lawrence
#10336Benedictine6-0def. Milwaukee Engineering, 84-58; 12/12 at Edgewood
#11299John Carroll7-012/12 at Wilmington
#12281Virginia Wesleyan5-212/13 vs. #13 Christopher Newport
#13241Christopher Newport6-012/13 at #12 Virginia Wesleyan
#14236New York University5-0IDLE
#15231Trinity (Conn.)4-2LOST at #37 Eastern Connecticut, 49-57; 12/11 vs. #34 Susquehanna (n); 12/12 vs. TBA (n)
#16220Franklin and Marshall7-1won at Albright, 69-63
#17209Brooklyn9-1def. Medgar Evers, 95-71; LOST at #35 Albertus Magnus, 89-106; 12/11 at Lehman
#18198WPI8-1won at Massachusetts College, 84-69
#19164Babson6-212/10 vs. #3 Amherst
#20151Washington U.6-1def. Webster, 79-72; 12/12 vs. #1 Augustana
#21148Salisbury6-2LOST to Penn State-Harrisburg, 63-66
#22100East Texas Baptist5-112/10 vs. Louisiana College; 12/12 vs. Rust
#2382Mount Union6-2won at Ohio Northern, 79-71; 12/12 vs. Otterbein
#2480St. John Fisher4-212/13 vs. Oneonta State (n)
#2560UW-Whitewater5-2def. Wheaton (Ill.), 80-72


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2655Illinois Wesleyan4-212/12 at Loras
#2753Chicago6-2IDLE
#2844Texas Lutheran6-1IDLE
#2935Whitman6-0IDLE
T#3033Lancaster Bible6-012/11 at Cairn
T#3033Bethel7-0def. Gustavus Adolphus, 82-73; 12/12 at St. John's
T#3229Oswego State7-112/11 vs. Cazenovia
T#3229St. Norbert5-1def. Lake Forest, 64-61; 12/12 vs. UW-Eau Claire
#3428Susquehanna7-012/11 vs. #15 Trinity (Conn.) (n); 12/12 at TBA
#3523Albertus Magnus6-1LOST to Fitchburg State, 85-91; def. #17 Brooklyn, 106-89
#3621Centre5-1IDLE
#3717Eastern Connecticut6-2def. #15 Trinity (Conn.), 57-49; 12/10 at Connecticut College; 12/12 vs. Rhode Island College
T#3816Skidmore5-1IDLE
T#3816Wooster3-212/12 at Wabash
T#4014Keene State6-012/12 at Mass-Boston
T#4014Pacific Lutheran7-1won at Northwest (Wash.), 68-61; 12/11 at Evergreen St.
#4213Williams5-2LOST at Oneonta State, 62-75; 12/12 vs. Springfield
#4311Aurora5-1LOST to Marian, 96-98; 12/12 at Concordia (Wis.)
#4410St. Vincent4-2LOST at T#48 Catholic, 56-80; 12/12 vs. Chatham
T#459William Paterson5-4won at Montclair State, 78-74; 12/12 vs. FDU-Florham
T#459Northwestern (Minn.)7-112/11 vs. Crown; 12/12 vs. Minnesota-Morris
#478Stockton5-2def. Rutgers-Camden, 71-51; 12/12 vs. Rutgers-Newark
T#486Catholic5-3def. #44 St. Vincent, 80-56; 12/11 at Dickinson
T#486Scranton5-212/13 vs. Merchant Marine
T#486Eastern Nazarene9-0def. Gordon, 100-84
#515Tufts6-2def. Plymouth State, 91-80
T#523Southern Vermont5-2won at Vassar, 76-64; 12/12 vs. Massachusetts College (n); 12/13 vs. TBA (n)
T#523Juniata7-012/11 vs. Penn State York; 12/12 vs. TBD
#542Geneseo State6-1IDLE
#551Maryville (Tenn.)6-1IDLE

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Titan Q on December 09, 2015, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 09, 2015, 02:58:22 PM
A little delayed, but finally posted... my Top 25 ballot for Week 2: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2687

So D Mac...

Why do you have Elmhurst higher than Benedictine? (Benedictine beat Elmhurst convincingly at Elmhurst.)

And why Wash U ranked and IWU not? (IWU beat Wash U.)

Because one game doesn't always automatically mean a swap... sometimes I feel it does and sometimes I feel it doesn't.

Yes, Benedictine beat Elmhurst and I had Elmhurst in the Top 5 and Benedictine not ranked at the time. I certainly wasn't going to either remove Elmhurst or vault Benedictine ahead of Elmhurst in the Top 25 based on that game. Benedictine got into the ballot and is about as high as I am comfortable with based on the Elmhurst win and others. Should Elmhurst be lower? You could certainly make that argument, but I am not of that opinion right now. I will admit they may not be the 7th (?) best team in the country, but I don't feel that anyone behind them should be ahead of them... so they sit there.

I don't think IWU is a Top 25 team (and I may incorrectly have Wash U as a Top 25 team). Just because IWU won doesn't mean they are now a Top 25 team. Wash U dropped a lot in my poll (and yes, I thought about removing as I stated in the blog), just didn't happen to drop out.

There are times a head-to-head matchup might result in a swap in the polls (Christopher Newport and Salisbury this week), but not all of the time. I just don't buy in the fact that one game trumps the rest of the resume or should automatically mean a team should jump ahead of the other.

Now, I have been pretty open that I may be wrong with Wash U and I thoroughly suspect they will be off my ballot next week after they play Augustana. That's a mistake I probably have made, but I liked what I saw in their start despite the other voice in my head yelling at me to ignore it (and other voices who talked to me after I bought in; timing is a bitch). However, there are so many teams to move around and think about that sometimes you can't hear all the voices accurately.
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How They Fared (Complete)

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1625Augustana5-0won at #20 Washington U., 70-67
#2584Whitworth8-0def. (n) Colorado College, 72-56
#3564Amherst8-0won at Brandeis, 72-65; won at #19 Babson, 103-96; won at Lasell, 101-69
#4541Ohio Wesleyan8-1LOST at Hiram, 72-74
#5498Hope6-1def. UW-Platteville, 79-69
#6463St. Thomas6-1def. Macalester, 78-53; won at UW-River Falls, 67-54
#7435Elmhurst8-1def. Olivet, 106-67; won at Dubuque, 76-64
#8425Marietta7-1won at Heidelberg, 79-72
#9402UW-Stevens Point4-3LOST at North Central (Ill.), 49-63; def. Lawrence, 64-53
#10336Benedictine7-0def. Milwaukee Engineering, 84-58; won at Edgewood, 77-57
#11299John Carroll8-0won at Wilmington, 84-68
#12281Virginia Wesleyan5-3LOST to #13 Christopher Newport, 61-64
#13241Christopher Newport7-0won at #12 Virginia Wesleyan, 64-61
#14236New York University5-0IDLE
#15231Trinity (Conn.)5-3LOST at #37 Eastern Connecticut, 49-57; LOST to (n) #34 Susquehanna, 74-79; won at King's, 90-63
#16220Franklin and Marshall7-1won at Albright, 69-63
#17209Brooklyn9-2def. Medgar Evers, 95-71; LOST at #35 Albertus Magnus, 89-106; LOST at Lehman, 77-80
#18198WPI8-1won at Massachusetts College, 84-69
#19164Babson6-3LOST to #3 Amherst, 96-103
#20151Washington U.6-2def. Webster, 79-72; LOST to #1 Augustana, 67-70
#21148Salisbury6-2LOST to Penn State-Harrisburg, 63-66
#22100East Texas Baptist7-1def. Louisiana College, 78-68; def. Rust, 88-79
#2382Mount Union7-2won at Ohio Northern, 79-71; def. Otterbein, 92-82
#2480St. John Fisher4-3LOST to (n) Oneonta State, 73-77
#2560UW-Whitewater5-2def. Wheaton (Ill.), 80-72


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2655Illinois Wesleyan4-3LOST at Loras, 81-92
#2753Chicago6-2IDLE
#2844Texas Lutheran6-1IDLE
#2935Whitman7-0won at Walla Walla, 101-65
T#3033Lancaster Bible7-0won at Cairn, 97-93
T#3033Bethel7-1def. Gustavus Adolphus, 82-73; LOST at St. John's, 78-89
T#3229Oswego State8-1def. Cazenovia, 75-50
T#3229St. Norbert6-1def. Lake Forest, 64-61; def. UW-Eau Claire, 89-60
#3428Susquehanna9-0def. (n) #15 Trinity (Conn.), 79-74; def. (n) Apprentice School, 90-61
#3523Albertus Magnus6-1LOST to Fitchburg State, 85-91; def. #17 Brooklyn, 106-89
#3621Centre5-1IDLE
#3717Eastern Connecticut7-3def. #15 Trinity (Conn.), 57-49; LOST at Connecticut College, 72-85; def. Rhode Island College, 77-44
T#3816Skidmore5-1IDLE
T#3816Wooster4-2won at Wabash, 74-52
T#4014Keene State6-1LOST at Mass-Boston, 70-77
T#4014Pacific Lutheran7-2won at Northwest (Wash.), 68-61; LOST at Evergreen St., 83-93
#4213Williams6-2LOST at Oneonta State, 62-75; def. Springfield, 72-62
#4311Aurora6-1LOST to Marian, 96-98; won at Concordia (Wis.), 92-91
#4410St. Vincent5-2LOST at T#48 Catholic, 56-80; def. Chatham, 82-63
T#459William Paterson6-4won at Montclair State, 78-74; def. FDU-Florham, 85-55
T#459Northwestern (Minn.)9-1def. Crown, 106-69; def. Minnesota-Morris, 91-79
#478Stockton6-2def. Rutgers-Camden, 71-51; def. Rutgers-Newark, 70-50
T#486Catholic6-3def. #44 St. Vincent, 80-56; won at Dickinson, 81-71
T#486Scranton6-2def. Merchant Marine, 68-56
T#486Eastern Nazarene9-0def. Gordon, 100-84
#515Tufts6-2def. Plymouth State, 91-80
T#523Southern Vermont7-2won at Vassar, 76-64; def. (n) Massachusetts College, 106-44; won at RPI, 68-59
T#523Juniata8-1def. Penn State York, 71-61; LOST to Randolph, 53-65
#542Geneseo6-1IDLE
#551Maryville (Tenn.)6-1IDLE

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#9410
How They Fared (So Far) Upcoming Games

If this year's schedule is like the last several, the next poll will come out on January 4. Rather than posting a partial update between now and then, here's a list of the games scheduled for the next three weeks. I'll post the final report on Sunday, January 3.

Top 25

Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#1625Augustana5-012/15 vs. MacMurray; 12/18 at Puget Sound; 12/20 at Lewis and Clark; 12/22 at George Fox;
12/29 vs. UW-Oshkosh (n); 12/30 vs. Edgewood (n); 01/02 vs. Wheaton (Ill.)
#2589Whitworth8-012/19 vs. Millsaps; 12/29 vs. Calvin (n); 12/30 vs. Mary Hardin-Baylor (n)
#3574Amherst8-001/02 vs. Rust (n); 01/03 at Rhodes
#4513Hope6-112/21 vs. Hanover; 12/22 vs. Grace Bible; 12/29 vs. Messiah (n); 12/30 vs. Beloit (n)
#5497St. Thomas6-112/15 at #19 UW-Stevens Point; 01/02 vs. Hamline
#6464Elmhurst8-112/19 at Buena Vista; 12/29 at Concordia-Chicago; 01/02 vs. T#33 Illinois Wesleyan
#7448Benedictine7-012/16 vs. T#46 Aurora; 12/19 at Marian; 12/22 at T#52 North Central (Ill.); 12/30 vs. Carthage;
01/02 at Concordia (Wis.)
#8438Marietta7-112/16 vs. Baldwin Wallace; 12/19 at #10 John Carroll; 12/29 vs. Mount St. Joseph (n); 12/30 vs. TBA (n)
#9432Ohio Wesleyan8-112/19 vs. Kenyon; 12/22 at Transylvania
#10396John Carroll8-012/19 vs. #8 Marietta; 12/29 vs. Brockport State (n); 12/30 vs. Bridgewater State (n)
#11388Christopher Newport7-012/16 at Pitt-Greensburg; 12/29 vs. Shenandoah; 12/30 vs. Shenandoah; 01/02 vs. Southern Virginia
#12279New York University5-012/30 vs. Yeshiva; 01/02 vs. Salve Regina (n); 01/03 vs. Emmanuel
#13267Franklin and Marshall7-112/30 at Carnegie Mellon; 01/02 vs. Misericordia
#14205WPI8-112/29 at Bates; 01/02 at T#43 Eastern Nazarene
#15195East Texas Baptist7-112/29 vs. Southwestern (n); 12/30 vs. #25 Texas Lutheran (n); 01/02 vs. Concordia (Texas)
#16176Mount Union7-212/28 vs. Hood (n); 12/29 vs. Colby (n)
#17148Susquehanna9-012/29 vs. Johns Hopkins (n); 12/30 at TBA; 01/02 vs. Moravian
#18145Virginia Wesleyan5-312/16 at Mary Washington; 12/30 vs. Southern Virginia; 01/02 vs. Emory
#19132UW-Stevens Point4-312/15 vs. #5 St. Thomas; 12/22 at Edgewood; 12/29 vs. T#52 Keene State (n); 12/30 vs. Hamilton (n)
#20127UW-Whitewater5-212/20 vs. Concordia-Chicago; 12/27 vs. Concordia (Texas) (n); 12/28 vs. FDU-Florham (n);
12/30 at Colorado College
#21118Washington U.6-212/17 at Fontbonne; 12/29 vs. #32 Centre (n); 12/30 at Wittenberg/Earlham
#22100Chicago7-2def. T#33 Illinois Wesleyan, 74-57; 12/19 at Albion; 01/02 at Illinois Tech
#2380St. Norbert6-112/19 vs. Cornell; 12/22 vs. Illinois College; 12/29 vs. Anderson; 12/30 vs. TBA
#2478Babson6-312/31 at Bates
#2574Texas Lutheran6-112/19 vs. T#33 Illinois Wesleyan (n); 12/20 vs. Alma (n); 12/29 at Texas-Tyler;
12/30 vs. #15 East Texas Baptist (n); 01/02 vs. Southwestern


Others receiving votes
Rank   Pts   TeamW-L   Results
#2671Brooklyn9-201/03 vs. Staten Island
#2762Whitman7-012/20 vs. Millsaps; 12/21 vs. Redlands; 12/29 vs. T#39 Tufts (n)
T#2856Salisbury6-212/20 vs. Concordia (Wis.) (n); 12/21 vs. #38 Wooster (n); 01/02 vs. St. Mary's (Md.)
T#2856Oswego State8-1IDLE
#3046Trinity (Conn.)5-312/30 vs. Anna Maria; 12/31 vs. TBA
#3143Lancaster Bible7-012/18 vs. Mount Aloysius
#3232Centre5-112/15 at Spalding; 12/19 vs. T#52 North Central (Ill.) (n); 12/20 vs. Stevenson (n);
12/29 vs. #21 Washington U. (n); 12/30 vs. TBA (n); 01/03 vs. Sewanee
T#3329Illinois Wesleyan4-4LOST at #22 Chicago, 57-74; 12/18 vs. Southwestern (n); 12/19 vs. #25 Texas Lutheran (n);
12/30 at Milwaukee Engineering; 01/02 at #6 Elmhurst
T#3329Northwestern (Minn.)9-112/15 at UW-Stout; 01/02 vs. North Central (Minn.)
T#3329Albertus Magnus6-1IDLE
#3621Pacific Lutheran7-212/28 vs. Mary Hardin-Baylor (n); 12/29 vs. UW-Stout (n)
#3716Skidmore5-112/28 vs. Ramapo (n); 12/30 vs. UW-Stout (n); 01/02 vs. Bard; 01/03 vs. Hobart
#3813Wooster4-212/20 vs. St. Mary's (Md.) (n); 12/21 vs. T#28 Salisbury (n); 12/29 vs. Pitt-Bradford;
12/30 vs. TBA; 01/03 vs. Denison
T#3912Tufts6-212/29 vs. #27 Whitman (n); 12/30 vs. Cal Lutheran / Geneva (n)
T#3912Bethel7-101/02 vs. Macalester
T#3912Juniata8-112/19 vs. Pitt-Bradford; 01/02 vs. Drew
#4211William Paterson6-412/19 at Rutgers-Camden
T#4310St. John Fisher4-312/29 vs. Cazenovia; 12/30 vs. TBA
T#4310Stockton6-212/19 vs. Gettysburg (n); 12/20 vs. TBA (n); 01/02 vs. Alvernia (n); 01/03 vs. TBA (n)
T#4310Eastern Nazarene9-001/02 vs. #14 WPI
T#467Roanoke7-112/20 at Frostburg State; 01/02 vs. Kenyon
T#467MIT8-2IDLE
T#467Aurora6-112/16 at #7 Benedictine; 12/19 vs. Maryville (Tenn.) (n); 01/02 at Wisconsin Lutheran
T#496Scranton6-212/29 vs. Stevenson (n); 12/30 vs. TBA; 01/02 vs. Elizabethtown
T#496St. Vincent5-212/27 vs. Mary Hardin-Baylor (n); 12/29 vs. Ramapo (n); 12/30 vs. Calvin (n); 01/02 vs. Westminster (Pa.)
#515New Jersey City7-212/29 vs. Buffalo State (n); 12/30 vs. TBA (n)
T#524Keene State6-112/29 vs. #19 UW-Stevens Point (n); 12/30 vs. Loras (n)
T#524North Central (Ill.)3-312/15 vs. Albion; 12/18 vs. Hartwick (n); 12/19 vs. #32 Centre (n); 12/22 vs. #7 Benedictine;
12/30 at Robert Morris-Chicago; 01/02 vs. North Park
T#543St. John's8-101/02 vs. St. Mary's (Minn.)
T#543Southern Vermont7-212/21 at Bates
T#562Catholic6-312/29 vs. Waynesburg; 12/30 vs. TBA; 01/02 at Merchant Marine
T#562Eastern Connecticut7-312/20 vs. Berry (n); 12/21 vs. LaGrange (n)
#581Geneseo6-1IDLE

scottiedawg

Biggest vote gainers:
Christopher Newport, 147
Susquehanna, 120
Benedictine, 112
John Carroll, 97
E. Texas Baptist, 95
Mt. Union, 94
UW-Whitewater, 67
St. Norbert, 51
F&M, 47
Chicago, 47
NYU, 43
St. Thomas, 34
Texas Lutheran, 30



Biggest vote losers:
UWSP, -270
Trinity (CT), -185
Brooklyn, -138
VA Wesleyan, -136
OH Wesleyan, -109
Salisbury, -92
Babson, -86
St. John Fisher, -70
WashU, -33
IL Wesleyan, -26
Bethel, -21
E. Conn, -15
Williams, -13
Keene St., -10

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AndOne

Anxious to see the new poll. Expect the possibility of some major changes especially among some of the previous ORV teams moving into the Top 25

Titan Q

I saw Alma (MIAA) play yesterday in San Antonio vs Mary Hardin-Baylor.  I was very impressed.  I think they are a Top 25 team.

Titan Q

#9416
Two Texas Lutheran (#25) scores from the Trinity tournament in San Antonio...

Texas Lutheran 82
Alma 81
(today)


Illinois Wesleyan 92
Texas Lutheran 86
(yesterday)

Darryl Nester

 
Quote from: AndOne on December 20, 2015, 05:10:59 PM
Anxious to see the new poll. Expect the possibility of some major changes especially among some of the previous ORV teams moving into the Top 25
Perhaps you are not expecting to see that poll tomorrow, but if so, I think you'll be disappointed. I earlier speculated that the next poll would come out on January 4, and I did not hear anything to contradict that. For example, last year, polls were posted on 12/15 and then 1/5. The schedule was similar in 2013-14.

Of the 58 teams who received votes in the last poll, nearly half (27) have not played any games since then. That's why I have not posted a HTF report this week.


Bengalsrule

Quote from: Darryl Nester on December 20, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: AndOne on December 20, 2015, 05:10:59 PM
Anxious to see the new poll. Expect the possibility of some major changes especially among some of the previous ORV teams moving into the Top 25
Perhaps you are not expecting to see that poll tomorrow, but if so, I think you'll be disappointed. I earlier speculated that the next poll would come out on January 4, and I did not hear anything to contradict that. For example, last year, polls were posted on 12/15 and then 1/5. The schedule was similar in 2013-14.

Of the 58 teams who received votes in the last poll, nearly half (27) have not played any games since then. That's why I have not posted a HTF report this week.

Makes sense!!   ;)

scottiedawg

can...barely...wait...until...1/3!    ;)